aboooe Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats dudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Woah. You got me D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Keshav is still in office? How does the tyranny continue without people catching on by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemhauser Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats on the new government. o/ Valhalla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theophilos Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats Valhalla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 congrats valhalla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePePe Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I'd like to personally welcome Esthar and congratulate him on joining the Einherjar. o/ Valhalla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayne Rivai Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats, Val! o/ Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj2288 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats On the new Gov changes Valhalla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Jesper' timestamp='1296981947' post='2621875'] Oh Schatt, your persistent drive towards picking on people at EVERY little chance is as certain as the law of gravity, and I'm sure that without your inspiring posts we'd all be floating out into empty space lost, confused and aimless, thank you [/quote] Actually I like Valhalla, but I honestly don't see why you would flaunt your refusal to honor treaties while a war is still on, it's not really an admirable trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1297016884' post='2622365'] Actually I like Valhalla, but I honestly don't see why you would flaunt your refusal to honor treaties while a war is still on, it's not really an admirable trait. [/quote] You would ask Valhalla to burn for NPO? Righto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats to the other vikings Bud Keshav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1297016884' post='2622365'] Actually I like Valhalla, but I honestly don't see why you would flaunt your refusal to honor treaties while a war is still on, it's not really an admirable trait. [/quote] Honor treaties? Disregard the fact we have very good reasons for not entering into this conflict. but Please go find me the Val treaty that obligates us to fight in this mess.... Pm it to me when ya dig that up. kthxbye.... Edit- as for the announcement, can you not appreciate dry sarcasm and irony? Lighten up when people are trying to have some fun that doesnt oppress others eh? Edited February 6, 2011 by chefjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1297016884' post='2622365'] Actually I like Valhalla, but I honestly don't see why you would flaunt your refusal to honor treaties while a war is still on, it's not really an admirable trait. [/quote] I for one would like to see proof that we actually turned down a formal request to honor a treaty.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats, Val. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1297018598' post='2622404'] I for one would like to see proof that we actually turned down a formal request to honor a treaty.... [/quote] Oh, ok, I didn't realize that we had gone the "they didn't ask" route. My apologies, carry on! Congrats, Bud, you're a cool guy. Next term, Hal, next term! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esthar Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Louisa' timestamp='1296983856' post='2621901'] I did too, after I felt that tongue, but now this "*evil grin*" is making me hesitate... Congratulations! [/quote] You know you love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainIIIC Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1296980557' post='2621858'] And NoR, and ML, and Olympus, and Invicta, and TPF. I've made my own decisions, you're not bothering me a bit. Anyway, I knew you'd do as I command, my personal hate machine pet, my coin-operated boy. [/quote] Don't forget Exodus, BTA or MCXA either. "but we considered all these treaties as ODPs" If there's an amusing but constantly running theme throughout this entire war Schatt, it's that alliances so often manage to become exactly what they so despised just a short while ago. edit: I forgot DT as well. Edited February 6, 2011 by KainIIIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) Acca Dacca [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif[/img] Also Lonewolfe I believe the bribes work once in a way Edited February 6, 2011 by Sir Keshav IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1297018598' post='2622404'] I for one would like to see proof that we actually turned down a formal request to honor a treaty.... [/quote] I would like to think MCXA made it pretty obvious that we could really use your help while taking three times our NS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD45Glock Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congrats to those elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ozujsko Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Congratulations to our allies in Valhalla. Also, hi Keshy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Levistus Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) [quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1297021905' post='2622499'] "but we considered all these treaties as ODPs" [/quote] Incorrect. We considered them exactly what they are: Non Chaining MD(oA)P's. When people who you have a non chaining clause with choose to pick up a separate non chaining or optional clause, then you're under no obligation. This is all really simple. Isn't this why Alliances prefer non chaining clauses? So they DON'T get drawn into wars for people they dislike? Edited February 6, 2011 by Lord Levistus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote name='Lord Levistus' timestamp='1297027345' post='2622641'] Incorrect. We considered them exactly what they are: Non Chaining MD(oA)P's. When people who you have a non chaining clause with choose to pick up a separate non chaining or optional clause, then you're under no obligation. This is all really simple. Isn't this why Alliances prefer non chaining clauses? So they DON'T get drawn into wars for people they dislike? [/quote] If you consider yourself to have no obligation because of a non-chaining clause, you consider them ODP's. This is why you often have something to the effect of "in the event of a treaty chain, defense is [i]optional[/i]" in non-chaining MD(oA)P's. In other circumstances you would treat them as mutual, but in this particular instance, you [i]are[/i] considering the treaties optional, thus making them ODP's. Optional is optional is optional is optional, no matter what the rest of the treaty says. The relevant clause is an ODP, thus you are treating it as an ODP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Zak Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Nice hidden link! Also Grats Valhalla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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