Supa_Troop3r Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Blackhorse still is the best protectorate DT has. LSR was the best one we had though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1284015488' post='2447453'] Oh come now Woody, we both know things weren't always like that. Adverse interests in the waning days of treaty? Maybe. Actively working against while under protection? Certainly not. I still look back fondly on that period. [/quote] Not all, but a huge chunk of the time. I wasn't exaggerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1284025494' post='2447500'] Almost? [/quote] Yeah, you pushed it too hard and had to white peace out. Unless you're saying you protected Polar, an alliance that actually did win you a war. Edited September 9, 2010 by bigwoody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNail Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='grahamkeatley' timestamp='1284032836' post='2447537'] Hands down in my opinion as well. No disrespect intended to any other Protectorates, FnKa getting a big shout out here from me. But Argent were both an amazing Protectorate to work with, and they are a stand out alliance at present too. GK [/quote] Awww u guys n girls too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I'm wondering if Trace would say Paragon Ascendancy In VE: ArGo, hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 ACV were as good as I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke426 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 It's already been said by us more than once but: Argent and it's not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Kevanovia' timestamp='1284048972' post='2447711'] In VE: ArGo, hands down. [/quote] Least I'm not the only one showin love there lol .. Rest of VE just wants to claim CNC/GOD - can't blame them tho, while it may not be all the most ideal impacts (personally speaking), they've certainly made probably the biggest impact of any protectorate of Viridia .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Olympus although they started under Valhalla before moving to Pegasus. They have become a first rate alliance. Edited September 9, 2010 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1284043725' post='2447656'] Not all, but a huge chunk of the time. I wasn't exaggerating. [/quote] None of which was under the alliance affiliation of Ordo Recolitus. By the time whatever happened that you are talking about everyone who mattered had already departed from the heap that was OV. Tetris' one and only protectorate is Misfit Nations, and they are pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karolina Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) [quote name='ratonbox' timestamp='1284021692' post='2447476'] Now, talking about current protectorates.. KR are on a really good track. [/quote] Very sweet of you Edited September 9, 2010 by Karolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypoNinja Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1284051856' post='2447763'] Least I'm not the only one showin love there lol .. Rest of VE just wants to claim CNC/GOD - can't blame them tho, while it may not be all the most ideal impacts (personally speaking), they've certainly made probably the biggest impact of any protectorate of Viridia .. [/quote] Well in my defense I wasn't here for Argo, but was a part of us scoring that CNC protectorate back in the day. Gotta go with who I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Mollari Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1284043806' post='2447657'] Yeah, you pushed it too hard and had to white peace out. Unless you're saying you protected Polar, an alliance that actually did win you a war. [/quote] Our mission goal in entering the TPF war was to hit them for 1-2 weeks and then grant them white peace. We had discussed this internally and decided on this before the first tank rolled. So from my perspective, the war was a success in that regard. For the most part Athens has never really engaged in devious schemes or plots or traps, we have simply stood up for ourselves and our allies and let the chips fall as they may. As wholly unlooked for bonuses, the TPF war also directly caused the breakup of Frostbite and Citadel, who were both potentially hostile competitor blocs to CnG, and smeared the PR of the entire other side for letting their ally burn so long while they twiddled their thumbs, but had made it clear that they wanted to enter despite the fact that their ally had spied when their treaties with TPF had anti-spying clauses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Frostbite was potentially hostile to CnG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 WAPA. We loved those guys; heck, we still do! We went to war with them over some silly stuff, made them join the alliance for sixty days, taught them all we knew, then cut em loose; I think we eventually became MDP partners. Coolest Scots around, if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustakrakish II Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Max Power' timestamp='1284014198' post='2447443'] Thanks a bunch, but this thread is about protectorates, not allies. [/quote] I think you guys were a protectorate for a little while...but if not...I still love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarikmo Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1284061091' post='2447895'] Frostbite was potentially hostile to CnG? [/quote] The Frostbite sigs were just that sexy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Mustakrakish II' timestamp='1284064927' post='2447959'] I think you guys were a protectorate for a little while...but if not...I still love you. [/quote] Naw, you're confusing em with someone else Musta. They're older than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natan Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='bigwoody' timestamp='1284013844' post='2447442'] You know when someone who actively hates your alliance can revel in a protectorate that actively worked against its protector for a huge chunk of its existence...yeah... [/quote] How does sarcasm work!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) For those of you outside the CnG/SF blocs who might be wondering how it is that CnG/SF/allies reign over large portions of CN virtually uncontested, it is important to read this particular section again: [quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1284059892' post='2447878'] As wholly unlooked for bonuses, the TPF war also directly caused the breakup of Frostbite and Citadel, who were both potentially hostile competitor blocs to CnG, and smeared the PR of the entire other side for letting their ally burn so long while they twiddled their thumbs, but had made it clear that they wanted to enter despite the fact that their ally had spied when their treaties with TPF had anti-spying clauses. [/quote] Here is what occupies the thoughts of a major leader of one of the alliances in the CnG/SF collaboration. If any readers are disgruntled over the collapse of their particular favorite part of their web, consider that in order to succeed, you have to think above the alliance, above the bloc, above even the multiple blocs, to the [i]de facto[/i] meta-bloc, its fringe, and the relationship it has with everything around it, including in your arsenal of considerations the tools needed to secure your spot, like the ever handy divide-and-conquer strategy, PR, swift-response to opportunities, and others. Now what is missing in your side? Cohesion. For the seasoned FA strategists, this is all rather common sense, but to the new folks: Think about it. -- As to the OP, I'd have to say my favorite was House Atreides, simply for the sheer role-play potential and the guys behind it. Unfortunately RL struck it down before it could really take flight, though if the crew ever comes out of retirement... I was also very fond of Nevermore. Lately, TRaPS and TNG look to be very successful. Edited September 9, 2010 by Kzoppistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 [quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1284059892' post='2447878'] Our mission goal in entering the TPF war was to hit them for 1-2 weeks and then grant them white peace. We had discussed this internally and decided on this before the first tank rolled. So from my perspective, the war was a success in that regard. For the most part Athens has never really engaged in devious schemes or plots or traps, we have simply stood up for ourselves and our allies and let the chips fall as they may. As wholly unlooked for bonuses, the TPF war also directly caused the breakup of Frostbite and Citadel, who were both potentially hostile competitor blocs to CnG, and smeared the PR of the entire other side for letting their ally burn so long while they twiddled their thumbs, but had made it clear that they wanted to enter despite the fact that their ally had spied when their treaties with TPF had anti-spying clauses. [/quote] TPF spied on someone? Your mission was to pull in the other side and when the other side came in we didnt see you lot for the dust you kicked up running away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Pullo Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 ViP was by far the best protectorate ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Fingolfin Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='Titus Pullo' timestamp='1284074301' post='2448146'] ViP was by far the best protectorate ever. [/quote] So modest Longbowe But to put in my .02, the best protectorate that I ever signed a treaty with actually probably was ViP. Legion went to war just a few days after the protectorate was signed and I querried Longbowe and told him to sit it out, no point in throwing his brand new AA into the conflict, but he refused and they rolled tanks alongside us, kicking ass along the way. In fact, they stayed in war even longer than Legion did, and I believe were the alliance longest at war outside of TIFDTT. ViP definitely ranks up there. Enough ego stroking for you Longbowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustakrakish II Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 [quote name='lonewolfe2015' timestamp='1284065461' post='2447971'] Naw, you're confusing em with someone else Musta. They're older than us. [/quote] VERY WELL! Ignore my nonsense then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 How about a better... or perhaps different question. How many successful alliances have outlasted their former protectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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