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so you call out NSO for threatening CSN and say they are all talk and no walk, then go and do it yourself? umm.... i honestly don't know what to say about that....

ITT: We remind people for an infinite amount of times that we don't war for OOC reasons.

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Just because it was an OOC attack, does not mean it is not an IC issue. We believe it is, and we wanted to make the NSO aware of it in the proper manner. I don't know what is so hard to understand here.

In addition, those people complaining about the quote "Furthermore I think NSO should be destroyed", are clearly missing the historical reference.

But if you concede that an OOC attack is simultaneously an IC issue, why the prohibition about utilizing this IC issue to justify an IC attack?

Just doesn't make sense to me.

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Just because it was an OOC attack, does not mean it is not an IC issue. We believe it is, and we wanted to make the NSO aware of it in the proper manner. I don't know what is so hard to understand here.

In addition, those people complaining about the quote "Furthermore I think NSO should be destroyed", are clearly missing the historical reference.

Then why no DoW if you think it's IC?

Come now don't be fragile.

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ITT: We remind people for an infinite amount of times that we don't war for OOC reasons.

ok. what does that have to do with what i said? you thumped your chest stating that ya'll think NSO should be destroyed but are too chicken-livered yellow bellies to actually do it.

nice. i would have to say that is worse than NSO threatening war against CSN. since they said it was a possibility. i would honestly think NSO would go to war if they found it necessary. you on the other hand obviously don't have the cajones to go to war against NSO.

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ITT: We remind people for an infinite amount of times that we don't war for OOC reasons.

No, you just throw unsubstantiated claims of [ooc]"OOC attacks"[/ooc] in the hope someone else will attack them for you. If this was not the plan them I'm not sure why this discussion was opened.

Whoever did invite porn/gore attacks on your forum is an idiot but I'd be wary of levelling allegations towards a group of people or, in this case, an individual without solid evidence behind your allegation. There is as much evidence to support your allegation as there is the allegation one of your own members made the request to frame the NSO.

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I certainly hope the llama did not spit in any of your patrons drinks. They can get quite a range you know.

It took me a while to train it. Now it spits in patrons' drinks only on demand. If they displease me, for example, but I don't intend to make war or other serious action because of it, I simply deploy my drama llama.

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Then why no DoW if you think it's IC?

Come now don't be fragile.

Because not every IC issue demands a declaration of war? Especially if the IC issue has spun up from an OOC issue?

you thumped your chest stating that ya'll think NSO should be destroyed
In addition, those people complaining about the quote "Furthermore I think NSO should be destroyed", are clearly missing the historical reference.
No, you just throw unsubstantiated claims of [ooc]"OOC attacks"[/ooc] in the hope someone else will attack them for you.

Incorrect, we do not desire any war to come up from this issue. We simply wanted to inform NSO and the world about it.

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It took me a while to train it. Now it spits in patrons' drinks only on demand. If they displease me, for example, but I don't intend to make war or other serious action because of it, I simply deploy my drama llama.
Is there any specific criteria for its deployment or use? Or do you handle that sort of thing on more of an ad hoc basis?
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Incorrect, we do not desire any war to come up from this issue. We simply wanted to inform NSO and the world about it.

You wanted to inform the world that you dislike the NSO and that you're accusing us without having evidence?

Old story, you should've not wasted your time making a new thread.

Edit: typo

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You consider it an OOC matter then go and make a IC fuss but say that its OOC and won’t do anything IC because its OOC but you complain to the world that something happened to you and you can’t prove who did it and even if you could, you wouldn’t do anything.

From anyone else that wouldn’t make sense and be totally expected…….but its you so its par for the course.

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You wanted to inform the world that you dislike the NSO and that you're accusing us without having evidence?

Old story, you should've not wasted your time making a new thread.

Edit: typo

I wanted to inform the NSO so that they could perhaps approach the member of theirs whom we believe perpetrated the act, and question him over it. Or carry out whatever investigation of their own. Or ignore us - we really don't care.

But I think when someone perpetrates the act outlined in the OP*, the suspect's alliance should be notified. For instance, if it was someone in my alliance, I would want to find out who, and expel them if I believed strongly enough that they were responsible. And I would most certainly find out, if it was a member of mine.

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Is there any specific criteria for its deployment or use? Or do you handle that sort of thing on more of an ad hoc basis?

I've generally seen it in action on an as-needed basis. Then again my timing can be off sometimes. :P

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I wanted to inform the NSO so that they could perhaps approach the member of theirs whom we believe perpetrated the act, and question him over it. Or carry out whatever investigation of their own. Or ignore us - we really don't care.

But I think when someone perpetrates the act outlined in the OP*, the suspect's alliance should be notified. For instance, if it was someone in my alliance, I would want to find out who, and expel them if I believed strongly enough that they were responsible. And I would most certainly find out, if it was a member of mine.

This is all well and good but private channels would have been better received. Just sayin.

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I usually jump at the opportunity to make Starcraftboy look like the moralist nitwit that he is, however, tonight it seems more than enough people are on him tonight. I'm a kind fellow, ain't I?

The world and your personality cult demand that you give this issue the time and effort it is clear due!

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You consider it an OOC matter then go and make a IC fuss but say that its OOC and won’t do anything IC because its OOC but you complain to the world that something happened to you and you can’t prove who did it and even if you could, you wouldn’t do anything.

From anyone else that wouldn’t make sense and be totally expected…….but its you so its par for the course.

It makes no sense because you have it wrong. An issue could be both IC and OOC, as I believe this is. We do not declare war for such things, or most other things - but only for very very good reasons.

We are not here to complain, I don't know how you got that impression. As I said, the announcement was made to inform NSO about the issue, and because it was quite funny and ironic of an event to occur.

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