nippy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 You act as if we aren't well aware that our IRC room is full of jackassery and asshattery most of the day? Fair enough, although I can't help but feel as if a thread such as this would backfire somewhat due to the amount of asshattery displayed by your alliance members in that channel. As an outside party, I see someone from NSO popping into your channel to request a treaty (albeit with a bit more juvenile voice than one would expect... ), and then the rest of NSO being treated like crap throughout the rest of the logs. Diplomacy was obviously out the window in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'm surprised someone would post logs of themselves acting like complete tools. Good job, I guess? And to then complain about other people doing it, typical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Oh SCM... dude. This was a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) So something has failed terribly That's entirely a matter of opinion. I had many people tell me how funny this announcement was, and I like bringing joy to people - despite what NSO and it's supporters think. Fair enough, although I can't help but feel as if a thread such as this would backfire somewhat due to the amount of asshattery displayed by your alliance members in that channel. As an outside party, I see someone from NSO popping into your channel to request a treaty (albeit with a bit more juvenile voice than one would expect... ), and then the rest of NSO being treated like crap throughout the rest of the logs. Diplomacy was obviously out the window in this case. Not sure if serious, but if so, you need to understand the relationship between us and NSO better to get the context. Edited December 22, 2009 by Starcraftmazter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainIIIC Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) oh dear, when you've got Xiphosis poo-pooing this strange attempt to make NSO look bad, you know by default that this was epic fail. Edited December 22, 2009 by KainIIIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 That's entirely a matter of opinion. I had many people tell me how funny this announcement was, and I like bringing joy to people - despite what NSO and it's supporters think. If you think the people criticizing you in this thread are all our "supporters" then you haven't been paying attention. Not sure if serious, but if so, you need to understand the relationship between us and NSO better to get the context. I wasn't aware we had a relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 If you think the people criticizing you in this thread are all our "supporters" then you haven't been paying attention. What can I say, haters gonna hate. We do not post announcements for critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Jaxon Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Furthermore, I think the New Sith Order should be destroyed. Well, looks like it's time for you to stand up for what you believe in. Don't mind if I go to sleep now, but for some reason I'm not worried about the disapproval of your cute little "alliance" or you highly important opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikos Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Fair enough, although I can't help but feel as if a thread such as this would backfire somewhat due to the amount of asshattery displayed by your alliance members in that channel. As an outside party, I see someone from NSO popping into your channel to request a treaty (albeit with a bit more juvenile voice than one would expect... ), and then the rest of NSO being treated like crap throughout the rest of the logs. Diplomacy was obviously out the window in this case. Diplomacy is never the name of the game when people come flooding into your channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Not sure if serious, but if so, you need to understand the relationship between us and NSO better to get the context. Perhaps some screenshots of the initial issue with NSO prior to the treaty request would have made it more clear. I've only seen the aftermath that was posted in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) Well, looks like it's time for you to stand up for what you believe in. Don't mind if I go to sleep now, but for some reason I'm not worried about the disapproval of your cute little "alliance" or you highly important opinions. I'm getting a little tired of people completely misinterpreting what that line means... Consider that things you read could mean something other than the blatantly obvious definition. Edited December 22, 2009 by Starcraftmazter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) That's entirely a matter of opinion. I had many people tell me how funny this announcement was, and I like bringing joy to people - despite what NSO and it's supporters think. My thoughts in full. Edited December 22, 2009 by Chron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Diplomacy is never the name of the game when people come flooding into your channel. If they were there to spam it, I could see your point...but it appears they were only there to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daikos Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'm getting a little tired of people completely misinterpreting what that line means, so I'll just casually advise people read this. I hope you're ready for people to completely ignore your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 That's entirely a matter of opinion. I had many people tell me how funny this announcement was, and I like bringing joy to people - despite what NSO and it's supporters think. Weird not many showed up to show their support in public. Take a guess as to why......... yeah..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Jaxon Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'm getting a little tired of people completely misinterpreting what that line means, so I'll just casually advise people read this. In 149 BC, Rome declared war against Carthage The irony of your ignorant condescension is dumbfounding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proko Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) We do not. Dark Fist has never and will never go to war because of an OOC reason. I don't know how many times I need to make this clear. [OOC]"We're not going to declare war for an OOC reason but we are going to post this in the IC section of the forums." It's one or the other. Choose.[/OOC] EDIT: I see Walkerninja has raised the same point I have. Let me attempt a second summary "We are not going to take IC actions for an OOC action, except for the IC action of posting it in the IC forums." Edited December 22, 2009 by Proko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Weird not many showed up to show their support in public. Take a guess as to why......... Allow me to educate you about such matters. All opinions stated around these parts - just as any other, are done so by a small yet vocal minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Allow me to educate you about such matters. All opinions stated around these parts - just as any other, are done so by a small yet vocal minority. Whatever makes you feel better man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Allow me to educate you about such matters. All opinions stated around these parts - just as any other, are done so by a small yet vocal minority. As my response to the above point I refer you to my previous post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 So you pretty much call them cowards for not declaring war, rage a little against them, say they should be destroyed, make everyone think you declared war, yet don't actually declare? I think everyone knows where I'm going with this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneLOL Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I for one, believe that this was necessary to be brought forward, to show the negativity that is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutkase Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 That's entirely a matter of opinion. I had many people tell me how funny this announcement was, and I like bringing joy to people - despite what NSO and it's supporters think. You would find that I am nor a supporter of NSO or a ally of NSO. What can I say, haters gonna hate. We do not post announcements for critics. Yet you posted this to criticize NSO, Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Because not every IC issue demands a declaration of war? Especially if the IC issue has spun up from an OOC issue?Incorrect, we do not desire any war to come up from this issue. We simply wanted to inform NSO and the world about it. so you desire for them to be destroyed but are too gutless to do it yourself. basically what i have been stating the entire time. gotcha yet again. thanks. I wanted to inform the NSO so that they could perhaps approach the member of theirs whom we believe perpetrated the act, and question him over it. Or carry out whatever investigation of their own. Or ignore us - we really don't care.But I think when someone perpetrates the act outlined in the OP*, the suspect's alliance should be notified. For instance, if it was someone in my alliance, I would want to find out who, and expel them if I believed strongly enough that they were responsible. And I would most certainly find out, if it was a member of mine. you have no proof whatsoever. so why should NSO do a darn thing? you keep making accusations you cannot back up. It makes no sense because you have it wrong. An issue could be both IC and OOC, as I believe this is. We do not declare war for such things, or most other things - but only for very very good reasons.We are not here to complain, I don't know how you got that impression. As I said, the announcement was made to inform NSO about the issue, and because it was quite funny and ironic of an event to occur. all you have been doing is complaining. you entire OP is one giant complaint and whinefest. if you wanted to inform NSO, private channels would have made you look less foolish. but if what you were going for was to make yourself look almost as fail, if not as fail, as UED, then by god you accomplished that. We really don't care if you believe us or not, we are not here to convince anyone. i call bs on this one. look at the second quote. you keep up with the accusations without a shred of proof. that is an attempt to convince someone. the fact that you posted this on the OWF shows you want to convince people it was NSO. so don't lie and state you aren't trying to convince anyone, when this thread was made for that purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I love it when my mistakes fix themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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