deSouza Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Right, how is Athens wrong then?Please explain that to me. The only way to not see what is wrong with this is to look the other way. There is hardly an event in which the entirety of bob's public opinion is placed in one side. This is one of those cases. Means something pretty bad has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I dont really get why this is even a question. Of course im mostly only posting my opinion. Stop claiming the hypocrites are right then. Since it's all a matter of perspective. You (all the bawwers) think it is wrong, Athens thinks it isn't and that's all what is to it. Put up or shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 The fact that he had a point notwithstanding. He asked how NPO got brought into this discussion, and I pointed out to him that NPO brought themselves into it. Funny. Everyone who fought for Karma could have done the same thing (i.e. fight for what's right) for all of the time that NPO was being incredibly evil while destroying all those purely innocent alliances. Now to be completely honest, this is simply another example of "Might makes Right." Poor show. Yes, they all could've. The fact that they actually wanted to win and get some of NPO's allies on their sides first shows that they actually aren't stupid. CN IS "Might makes Right". It eludes me how you fail to grasp this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Let's reverse the question cause it seems you don't understand what Tromp is asking. How are the ex-hegemony folks right about this? Just because you think they are right? Isnt the question being asked from someone who was in Hegemony while the 'ebil' things were happening. Hypocrisy is a word easy to justify, more like side-tracking the issue at hand. Throw in purple to justify putting the word bully too. Anyway, HellAngel put it right, hypocrites are not necessarily wrong, maybe you could be right or wrong. Question is do you think what is going on is right or wrong? <-- Which btw is a matter of perspective. Edited November 14, 2009 by shahenshah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 So Athens... when you paying out reps to Knights of Ni? Also how much? They won't be paying reparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrownso Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Lets go through this list (Excluding disbanded alliances):ODNGATO NPO NpO FARK LoSS LSF Legion IAA WAPA RIA Ronin Graemlins BTA RnR VE FAN MK FOK Valhalla TOOL GOD BAPS =LOST= TGE NADC GPA Wolfpack CSN USN Browncoats GUN Genesis NV UBD Athens GR STA SSX PPO Carpe Diem GLOF CCC TPF Old Guard MCXA NATO Echelon FEAR UCN UPN Invicta OMFG TORN AB Zenith VA GDA GRAN NEW RDD Molon Labe Avalon TFD Olympus Voodoo, can we "raid" some of these failed alliances? I mean, I'm sure we can find a weak one that won't fight back. Let's find one without many treaties so we'll be sure they won't fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellAngel Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Stop claiming the hypocrites are right then. Since it's all a matter of perspective. You (all the bawwers) think it is wrong, Athens thinks it isn't and that's all what is to it. Put up or shut up. "The hypocrites are right" Now stop bawwing about me posting my opinion. Put up or shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 If I was Athens allies, quite frankly I wouldn't touch this thread with a 99 and 1/2 foot poll. The longer this drags out the worse you all look. The same could be said for Athens. You're already the CnG alliance that people like the least, and you've just made yourself look like a bunch tools through this raid and what you've said in this thread. Don't fuel the fire anymore. Don't go alerting people to the Athens trend. Really. It's way funnier in the long run if you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 You should really be more careful with what you wish for. At least they're willing to actually do something to create some drama around here, which is more than can be said for most people and alliance here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa Pretty poor show by anyone's standards least of all Athens'. I guess.... have fun reaping what you sow. Or should it be raping.?! Anyways. nice topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindom of Goon Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 At least they're willing to actually do something to create some drama around here, which is more than can be said for most people and alliance here. If they want some drama then why not grow a pair and attack someone they dislike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Stop claiming the hypocrites are right then. Since it's all a matter of perspective. You (all the bawwers) think it is wrong, Athens thinks it isn't and that's all what is to it. Put up or shut up. If you dont like bawwing why don't you shut us up? see it works both ways. My guess is you wont do anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Brutus Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Lets go through this list (Excluding disbanded alliances):That is a long list of failures, according to you. I see TPF, UPN and Invicta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Chocolate Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 1. I suggested this thread (at least enough to get the basic arguments back and forth) as great reading material for our members who want to know more about CN politics. Saves me a lot of time 2. Hail The International! (our Protector) and big "thank you's" to our other treaty partners. 3. Bad Athens, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 At least they're willing to actually do something to create some drama around here, which is more than can be said for most people and alliance here. So, you wanted drama, and then complain about it when it happens? Because that's what this is, created drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I see TPF, UPN and Invicta Not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eretz Yisrael Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 They won't be paying reparations. But it's proper diplomatic conduct to pay reps to a tech raided nation! Are you saying all Athens nations that participated in the raid are rogues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfEmpty Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Voodoo, can we "raid" some of these failed alliances? I mean, I'm sure we can find a weak one that won't fight back. Let's find one without many treaties so we'll be sure they won't fight back. Looking at them BAPS doods What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 If they want some drama then why not grow a pair and attack someone they dislike? The attacks weren't for drama, they were for profit. I'd imagine they see the drama as a delicious bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) If they want some drama then why not grow a pair and attack someone they dislike? This has created plenty of drama. edit: and a profit too So, you wanted drama, and then complain about it when it happens? Because that's what this is, created drama. Oh, I'm enjoying this drama don't mistake me mocking yours and others arguments as dislike. Edited November 14, 2009 by WarriorConcept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 But it's proper diplomatic conduct to pay reps to a tech raided nation!Are you saying all Athens nations that participated in the raid are rogues? Either go pay GPA a couple billion dollars or shut your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 At least they're willing to actually do something to create some drama around here, which is more than can be said for most people and alliance here. They are bored? yeah right. There are plenty of other alliances to relieve their boredom by raiding, plenty of big ones with allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 But it's proper diplomatic conduct to pay reps to a tech raided nation!Are you saying all Athens nations that participated in the raid are rogues? Yes go ahead and attack them hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 They are bored? yeah right. There are plenty of other alliances to relieve their boredom by raiding, plenty of big ones with allies. They got drama and a profit. Seems like they probably got what they were trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrnea Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 They are bored? yeah right. There are plenty of other alliances to relieve their boredom by raiding, plenty of big ones with allies. This. If Athens wanted drama, there were plenty of targets they could have picked (read: alliances with allies) that would have created more drama, faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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