monkeybum Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 happy Hunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I don't think anyone is denying that, but the mindset that led us to what we had before is still out there, which is what I am saying. If left unchecked, it will take over again. New faces, but still the same old.But yes, this is neither the time nor the place for this discussion. So that is all I have to say on that. If you live life waiting for the world to change for the worse, you won't enjoy the time before it descends into darkness. Stop being so cynical, RV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudekker Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 So, I shouldn't expect to get any diplomacy done with the GDI noob rogue attacking one of my applicants? LOL If you need help, Stets, you know where to go Also, VE, love the DOW's in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 It's a shame that all of the lower guys have to pay for the idiocy of their leadership. Honestly 9mill for a nation of his size is isn't that much. The fact that he refused despite how little was being asked makes one wonder what kind of thought process is going on there, cause it doesn't make much sense from my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Oh SNAP! GDI was the next easy target I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Oh SNAP! GDI was the next easy target I see Does that mean you will begin raiding them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAura Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 VE was one of the 2 or 3 alliances I actually respected in the war. Me and a couple of VE members talked to each other when we were fighting one another, usually not even on stuff related to CN. And hell, we kept talking after our wars were over for a day or 2. I feel bad for the innocent GDI members tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ditka Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 /me face palms.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leprecon Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 So Ryan felt it was necessary to protect a rogue who attacked the NPO (one of the biggest alliances) while the NPO is also protected by a long list of other big alliances .... Sounds weird to say it, but we have got your back NPO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Addressing some comments from FreddieMercury, kulomascovia and Joe Stupid (and from maybe others...) The assault VE is making on GDI's forces is not a collective punishment. Ryan made it very clear that he was considering an escalation of the war of aggression already going against the VE's anti-rogue task force and an ally of Viridia; in this thread there are even logs of Ryan claiming that VE should have dropped their requests or it would have costed them "alot more grief and money than they seem[ed] to expect". VE had a situation in which the GDI was an actual threat to the security of its members, with the potential of becoming a worse problem, and in which there were numerous and converging pieces of intelligence that an attack by GDI was likely. Ryan had shown a completely unreasonable and aggressive attitude, and there wasn't much room to hope that he "suddenly" became reasonable. He also seems to have complete power over the GDI. Now, the fact that GDI is much smaller than Viridia is not so much relevant, as VE has the duty to protect its members - yeah even the small ones! - from aggression. Pre-emptively attacking each and every one of the GDI members in range, to put them in anarchy or at least to reduce the imminent threat they represented, was, from a military and political point of view, absolutely the best course of action. Viridia doesn't want to destroy the GDI: they just want to ensure their safety against an aggressor. GDI nations can surrender in any moment. What VE showed this far is outstanding civilty and restraint. I'm even inclined to think that - even if it wouldn't be due on their part - they wouldn't deny a substantial help to rebuild the GDI nations (probably, if they don't associate with Ryan anymore...) It's unreasonable to claim that VE should have passively waited, leaving to the GDI the chance to organize and to put in action a bigger assault on them, letting them enjoy all the time they wanted to try rally other foes, to build up a stronger military, to attempt other hostile actions and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) For the record, GDI membership has been messaged with individual terms. Also, for those of you earlier in this thread who made comments about us "shooting first and asking questions later": [21:09] <RyanGDI[GDI]> That was our RRF (Rapid Response Force)01[21:09] <Impero[VE]> i dont care what it was [21:09] <RyanGDI[GDI]> Or one of it's members, more so 01[21:09] <Impero[VE]> so he is a rogue? [21:09] <RyanGDI[GDI]> No. 01[21:09] <Impero[VE]> so it was authorized? [21:09] <RyanGDI[GDI]> He's defending the alliance from attack [21:10] <RyanGDI[GDI]> Standard operating procedures 01[21:10] <Impero[VE]> no, hes attacking our alliance 01[21:10] <Impero[VE]> your SOP is shoot first ask questions later? [21:10] <RyanGDI[GDI]> Attacking a VE nation attacking us [21:10] <RyanGDI[GDI]> That's most alliance's policies Ironic choice of words lol OCC: I believe Im the first person to successfully post a DoW from a bar bathroom (gotta love copy and paste on the iPhone), does this mean I get a prize?? Edited August 14, 2009 by Il Impero Romano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptGodzilla Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) /late Well Ryan did get peace.... peace mode that is Also most alliance policies are to talk to alliances attacking you before you authorize attacks... Ryan just deserves this for all the dumb comments he had made recently. Edited August 14, 2009 by CptGodzilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Kuse Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 For the record, GDI membership has been messaged with individual terms.Also, for those of you earlier in this thread who made comments about us "shooting first and asking questions later": Ironic choice of words lol OCC: I believe Im the first person to successfully post a DoW from a bar bathroom (gotta love copy and paste on the iPhone), does this mean I get a prize?? You don't win *bark* Impero! *throws desk at Impero* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis777 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) Somehow, somewhere I thought RyanGDI was a reasonable person... sigh, the last two lines of that log by Ryan just showed fail. Honestly, really? Why use those words when the obvious has been laid out for no excuses? Edited August 14, 2009 by Quest07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hey Ryan, remember when I said since you signed a treaty with FAIL you've been talking and acting like one of the big boys. Good times huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotic Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 you win some, you lose some o/ VE go get'um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Metternich Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 VE, QUICK! Activate those MDAPS and MDoAPS! Get Karma in on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R&R-Viking Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 this is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rulesaints Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 A response from Ryan would be pretty good right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Metternich Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 A response from Ryan would be pretty good right now... It'd be ineresting, and something to 'lol' at. but not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ghost Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Have fun with this one VE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Also, for those of you earlier in this thread who made comments about us "shooting first and asking questions later":[logs] Ironic choice of words lol I respect the way you have handled the war thus far, but is repeatedly posting logs for the purpose of lol'ing at Ryan really necessary? You could just as easily have explained your actions to those questioning you without these publications. I am sure you would not enjoy your negotiations during a losing war being plastered everywhere, so you should at least try to afford that same level of respect to your opponents. Personally I would have no inclination to talk to you any more than is absolutely necessary if I saw snippets of what were supposed to be private communications posted up here in such a humiliating and derogatory manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Lol. The people bawwing make this thread. Do you not get tired of sounding like a broken record?Friends, those of you concerned about GDI need not be. Ryan and his merry band of followers will come out of this beatdown, eventually rebreak the 100k NS barrier, and then get DoW'd on again. This is the way the world works. With all do respect Kevin, many who are "baaawing" here could have and probably did make the same claim to the broken records we heard of over a year before Karma. I don't think we need to rehash the entire year of crying from half the known world That said, I support VE in their war and applaud them for giving surrender terms to individuals from the start. It is not a new practice, NATO has done that before and I am sure others have as well. THen again we also declared on the leader of an alliance once and left the rest of the alliance alone unless they came after us. Either way, VE's course of action is legit and merciful. Good show VE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Scream Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Most unfortunate. Reasonable, though. o/ The Entente. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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