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Jared

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  1. Congratulations Sky and Jenko, may your nukes fly true and your reign be glorious
  2. [quote name='sacramento' date='07 March 2010 - 11:13 PM' timestamp='1268003886' post='2217292'] Isn't that what this is all about? The "aggressive" war from TOP side ended the day NpO peaced \m/. The CnG war of aggression started right after. Only that this particular tech raid was a little more costly to you than you anticipated. [/quote] I hate to tell you this so late in the game but you guys were the ones that declared war on an unengaged third party aka CnG. Maybe what you meant to say was [quote] Isn't that what this is all about? The TOP war of aggression started right after NpO peaced \m/. Only that this particular tech raid was a little more costly to us than we anticipated. [/quote] This is what you meant to say right, cause if not I have not the foggiest clue what you are talking about
  3. [quote name='Haflinger' date='07 March 2010 - 07:14 PM' timestamp='1267989528' post='2217041'] They don't really want peace. Neither do you guys. Both sets of you are enjoying yourselves far too much, and frankly, at this point they've got less to gain from a peace agreement than you guys do. [/quote] Thats true, deep down we do desire more blood for the blood god and skulls for the skull throne or so I hear. [quote name='PrideAssassin' date='07 March 2010 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1267990083' post='2217055'] War of aggression lmao. Always the little victims. I've been hearing you people cry for over a year now. You win a war, and you're STILL here bawwing. Good show. [/quote] Don't look at us, the other side is the one crying about how unjust and evil our terms of surrounder are. What good sports would we be if we didn't whine back, in hindsight we could always leave them to whine amongst themselves, but that wouldn't be much fun now would it?
  4. [quote name='Methrage' date='07 March 2010 - 04:05 PM' timestamp='1267978216' post='2216880'] 200k to just CnG without all the rest and I think it would look acceptable in my opinion. However if you consider everything being asked of IRON, TORN, and TSO by you guys separate not likely to be dropped I realize how hopeless this is. [/quote] Well ya if we got a offer closer to that then it would be something that could honestly be discussed and considered, at least it wouldn't be a blatant slap in our face like the first counter offer we got.
  5. [quote name='shilo' date='07 March 2010 - 12:02 AM' timestamp='1267920449' post='2216401'] No one is playing martyr, it's a statement of fact that we are willing to fight as hard and long as takes if you force us into a perma-war and that we will continue doing a lot of damage to you guys for a very long time. On the other hand, by the fact that we are talking with you guys and made a counter-offer to your first attempt of tech extortion, we clearly are showing we do seek peace. Just not peace for any price. That's a big difference. [/quote] Sorry but people on your side say they know that the counter offer wasn't going to be accepted, and that if they were in our shoes they would be asking for the same thing, a far cry from someone like you who only seems to know how to continue to shout some fantasized tech extortion scheme on our part. Not to mention even people over at TOP admitted how stupidly retarded the negotiations have been going on their part, which I have been pleasantly surprised about.
  6. [quote name='Freestyler8456' date='03 March 2010 - 08:36 PM' timestamp='1267648816' post='2212910'] i think top should keep fighting but for different reasons. dont build your enemy back up - ever, it defeats this purpose. not so much as the reps as they did go leinent as they say, but because you can get away with this by disbanding and/or reforming under a new aa. the aa is changeable, the community isnt. reestablish yourselves and get a protectorate, boom, you have no money to pay and they cant do a damn thing about it unless they want another war, which is more of a pzi of a collective gathering rather than the zi of an individual alliance. [/quote] You do realize that our target lists don't change regardless of what the nations aa is, if they were to do something like disbanding to get away from terms, all of the nations would still have to surrounded individually and would have to follow the surrounded terms which among other things decommissioning all tanks, aircraft, cruise missiles, navy, and nukes, changing aa to TOP GUN POW. I don't even know if we would really accept whole alliance individual surrenders anyways, so it might not even be a option, not that I see them doing something like that anyways.
  7. [quote name='Alterego' date='02 March 2010 - 09:22 PM' timestamp='1267565144' post='2211667'] Keep fighting until you run out of money, tech and nukes. Then they cant make any demands for tech and cash. [/quote] Funny you should mention that, that is one of their plans going vietTOP rather than pay us one cent in tech. Not sure how well that plan is going to work out for them, but it sounded interesting.
  8. You could always do #1 to start with, and then once the enemy has let down its guard go into #2
  9. [quote name='Saber' date='18 February 2010 - 10:25 PM' timestamp='1266531955' post='2190373'] I can think of several ways that "convincing of not producing a repeat performance" could be achieved. I am however not really certain CnG would agree with it given most statements made so far which came down to either "crippling terms" or "crippling destruction with depletion of warchests and tech". Both of which are more likely to cause long term resentment then true happy ending. [/quote] While I do not know who has made such statements, I full hardly very much so disagree with any such sentiment. That being said I would be interested in hearing what you think the several ways are, if you would like to go into more detail.
  10. [quote name='Saber' date='18 February 2010 - 10:00 PM' timestamp='1266530440' post='2190311'] If you find our offer of global white peace unacceptable you are free to offer alternatives. But remember, global peace, not divide and conquer sprinkled with threats. [/quote] It's my view that the initial aggressors IRON/TOP/DAWN will not be granted white peace, all others will though. I have no idea what will eventually be agreed on if anything, but I believe nothing short of some amount of reps with money/tech combination of some sort is going to be accepted.
  11. [quote name='andre27' date='18 February 2010 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1266529150' post='2190262'] Nice try IC, but the GGA entered through our defensive clause not through a oA. Having read through 5 out of a total 20 pages it seems clear that the C&G side does not want to give white peace which is disappointing because most of these alliances fought in Karma against "beatdown politics" and punishing reps. Now that they have a chance to do things different than the "Hegemony" they drop the ball. Petty grievances take president again over principles. And so the circle continues... [/quote] Ya where so evil for not whiting peace from aggressors that attacked us out of the clear blue, we are so nasty for not wanting to send a message that anybody can attack us and get off free and clear. Forgive for our evil ways, for we have yet to find the light of reason.
  12. While I can appreciate whatever sincerity is in this white peace offer, for those that have aggressively attacked us and our brothers who we must now defend that simply isn't possible.
  13. When the WTFA is the biggest seven day gainer in alliance strength. When the only one losing more NS than IRON is TOP. When the radiation cleanup that so many mocked before now becomes useful. When many of the top alliances now find themselves more or less equal in score to NPO. When the only the thing more confusing than the declarations, is knowing who exactly your fighting against. When you cant remember the last time you didn't stay up for update. When you login from work continuously to see if a counter strike has happened or not. When every night you check the forums around update time expecting more dows to happen and getting them.
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