Icepick Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 o/ OV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Really?The spy? So you're saying someone who receives privileged information from a third party is a spy? By that definition, your God-Emperor Revenge is a spy. *MaGneT waits for F15 to scream "off with his head". OOC: We're up to 69 pages, we're lucky it took this long to Godwin You must have forgotten that they are held to a different standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) I would be careful being too gleeful in your support for ultimate vengeance, folks. These types of things have a way of turning around on you in the fullness of time. There are ways to manage a wild dog without putting a bullet through its skull.I do not support forced disbandment for any alliance currently involved in this war. I do not support eternal war for any alliance currently involved in this war. I don't support perma-ZI or eternal-ZI for any leader involved in this war. I'd like to think that we're all going to be fighting for something a little greater than bragging rights this one time. Nobody is going to win a global war of the size needed for the NPO to risk defeat, thus there's no issue here. [Edit: sadly] Edited April 21, 2009 by jerdge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Nobody is going to win a global war of the size needed for the NPO to risk defeat, thus there's no issue here.[Edit: sadly] I do believe you are mistaken. We shall see. Edited April 21, 2009 by KingSrqt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajistani Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) This is what I am refering to, this is the 3rd post of page 27Post I stand by this, so if someone can show me significant OOC attacks from this war then I stand by my statement and This is what I am referring too. The third quote reply on the linked post. Edited April 21, 2009 by Rajistani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15pilotX Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Really?The spy? So you're saying someone who receives privileged information from a third party is a spy? By that definition, your God-Emperor Revenge is a spy. *MaGneT waits for F15 to scream "off with his head". OOC: We're up to 69 pages, we're lucky it took this long to Godwin Forgive me for misstating the situation, but the fact remains that OV did not inform our government of the stolen information that they willingly accepted.Considering Ursarkar's post in VE's topic, your second statement is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coven Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Good hunting NPO. Your brothers and sisters have your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterShadow Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 and This is what I am referring too. The third quote reply on the linked post. I do not see the commonality of the 2 situations. I am merely saying if someone has proof of NPO committing OOC attacks, I will leave the alliance and surrender period. I was merely gauging whether anyone would state the same thing about their alliances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Forgive me for misstating the situation, but the fact remains that OV did not inform our government of the stolen information that they willingly accepted.Considering Ursarkar's post in VE's topic, your second statement is incorrect. He isnt talking about ve's topic. He is talking about this [23:45] <away_srqt[RIA]> so how did you guys get teh SS of Ovs forums anyway [23:52] <Moo-Cows> we didn't [23:52] <Moo-Cows> someone gave t hem to our ally [23:52] <Moo-Cows> who gave them to us [23:54] <away_srqt[RIA]> so really your ally (I am assuming TPF) acceoted leaked Screen shots of a privat alliance forum? [23:58] <away_srqt[RIA]> I am sure you can see how tihs is slightly concerning to me considering the implications it has for some of my closest allies [00:00] <Moo-Cows> you know as well as I that every alliance accepts information [00:00] <Moo-Cows> how else are spies caught thesse days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teriethien Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Forgive me for misstating the situation, but the fact remains that OV did not inform our government of the stolen information that they willingly accepted. Everyone else's point is that your Emperor did the exact same thing. Double standards are such wonderful things, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajistani Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 You stated that the leaders of NPO did an OOC attack, I asked for proof you ignored me. So is there proof or did you just say there was and there isnt? and This is what I am referring too. The third quote reply on the linked post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I do not see the commonality of the 2 situations. I am merely saying if someone has proof of NPO committing OOC attacks, I will leave the alliance and surrender period. I was merely gauging whether anyone would state the same thing about their alliances This is why it's important to travel and try new things. It gives you perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I do not see the commonality of the 2 situations. I am merely saying if someone has proof of NPO committing OOC attacks, I will leave the alliance and surrender period. I was merely gauging whether anyone would state the same thing about their alliances Check your PMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterShadow Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Raj Are you refering to QUOTE (PieMan @ Aug 11 2008, 09:54 PM) * Prove that they knew about Chickenzillas nation being Chickenzilla. proof = we're bigger. This is why it's important to travel and try new things. It gives you perspective. Doitzel this is my CN history Legion -> MCXA -> EDEN (formed) -> NPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Doitzel this is my CN historyLegion -> MCXA -> EDEN (formed) -> NPO I suggest a new travel agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrilobyteMan Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Just a small note: People who earlier were calling me up for misspelling "camaraderie"... I'm sorry, but comradery is also a correct spelling of the word. I'm sorry for being correct, you'll need to find something else to nitpick at me about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterShadow Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I suggest a new travel agent. My goal has been to see things from different prespectives and meet new people. I try to stay at an alliance at least 6 months, so yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R&R-Viking Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Just a small note: People who earlier were calling me up for misspelling "camaraderie"... I'm sorry, but comradery is also a correct spelling of the word. I'm sorry for being correct, you'll need to find something else to nitpick at me about. I'm sure no one cares about this but thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 If you're going to try to argue, it's good to learn to count. It is absurd to be "embarrassed" because the Order attacked an alliance for spying and refusing to punish that spy after being caught. Very well. Is it OK to be embarrassed over the fact that your Emperor went looking for a ceasefire without consulting TORN? If so, you may begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Good hunting NPO.Your brothers and sisters have your back. I dont think NpO wants to join this war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta Defender Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) He isnt talking about ve's topic. He is talking about this[23:45] <away_srqt[RIA]> so how did you guys get teh SS of Ovs forums anyway [23:52] <Moo-Cows> we didn't [23:52] <Moo-Cows> someone gave t hem to our ally [23:52] <Moo-Cows> who gave them to us [23:54] <away_srqt[RIA]> so really your ally (I am assuming TPF) acceoted leaked Screen shots of a privat alliance forum? [23:58] <away_srqt[RIA]> I am sure you can see how tihs is slightly concerning to me considering the implications it has for some of my closest allies [00:00] <Moo-Cows> you know as well as I that every alliance accepts information [00:00] <Moo-Cows> how else are spies caught thesse days? With all the logs being used, release the full copy or don't complain at the CB if you claim it is being presented out of context, I could say the same thing about these. Only reason why "Karma" as they are calling themselves have not released the full copy is because they possibility fear that once released they will lose any power they have and everyone will see the truth for whatever that is. Edited April 21, 2009 by Zeta Defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I do believe you are mistaken.We shall see. Jerdge means we're all going to lose. Sadly, I tend to agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Obama Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 how about fighting for the right to bring new alliances on Red team if NPO lose How about just giving them white peace after they are beat down? I know that's what I would do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 With all the logs being used, release the full copy or don't complain at the CB if you claim it is being presented out of context, I could say the same thing about these. Ok Full copy [23:45] <away_srqt[RIA]> so how did you guys get teh SS of Ovs forums anyway [23:52] <Moo-Cows> we didn't [23:52] <Moo-Cows> someone gave t hem to our ally [23:52] <Moo-Cows> who gave them to us [23:54] <away_srqt[RIA]> so really your ally (I am assuming TPF) acceoted leaked Screen shots of a privat alliance forum? [23:58] <away_srqt[RIA]> I am sure you can see how tihs is slightly concerning to me considering the implications it has for some of my closest allies [00:00] <Moo-Cows> you know as well as I that every alliance accepts information [00:00] <Moo-Cows> how else are spies caught thesse days? [00:01] <away_srqt[RIA]> it just seems ironic that to catch the person who got a screenshot of your forums you had to get a screenshot of their forums [00:01] <away_srqt[RIA]> maybe its just me but it doesnt seem to sit well with me [00:07] <Moo-Cows> what is more important to me is that sethb admitted to spying [00:11] <Moo-Cows> what we are requesting is not unreasonable.....sethb to go through 1 ZI is fair for spying [00:26] <away_srqt[RIA]> considering the context of the events and the content of the inte I respectfuly disagree. I think OV's counter offer was fair. [00:30] <Moo-Cows> removal fro m gov for spying? I disagree. Name one spy that has escaped ZI from any alliance [00:32] <away_srqt[RIA]> I dont consider passively accepting a screenshot of pretty much common knowledge the same thing as actively spying. He should have told you, that is what I see as his mistake. Honestly if it was me I would have accepted the screenshot and given it to you so you could help track it down. His neglect of the second step is his real mistake. happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 With all the logs being used, release the full copy or don't complain at the CB if you claim it is being presented out of context, I could say the same thing about these. The full context? That makes you look even worse: when Srqt makes an argument the Emperor can't rebuke he suddenly stops responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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