Paradigm Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Your vested interest in hiding the overtly aggressive actions from TORN towards Ordo Verde and its allies - that's GOD, VE and Vanguard, for those playing at home - is quite clear to everyone with even the slightest grip on common sense and deduction. If you will not take my word for it, perhaps you can request an explanation from several of your allies as to why they have moved to peace mode en masse, whilst simultaneously attempting to rally support for their latest trumped-up casus belli? If I was ever asked to point to a quote that explains why I'm with Vanguard...(pokes reyne)...that right there about sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaciaut Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 You need to return to the Z'ha'dum School of Playing The Victim. That performance was sub-par.I personally spent several hours yesterday being subject to the Hegemony In Decline's attempts to persuade myself and my allies that their planned attack on Ordo Verde was justified. No credible evidence was put forth, no valid reasoning offered, only the transparent objective of striking a perceived 'opposing side' before it gains further momentum. Do not attempt to claim TORN is the innocent victim when they have been openly waving target lists for the past 24 hours. ahahaha, oh wow this post was so tasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Duffy Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Its truly honorable to stand beside your allies and back them up. OV could not ask for better allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 All going to happen sooner or later, TORN just seems to be giving the spark to make it happen rather quickly. Planned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Specific Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 All going to happen sooner or later, TORN just seems to be giving the spark to make it happen rather quickly. Planned? Always. Now it's just a question of who is planning and continuing to work allies behind the scenes better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Always. Now it's just a question of who is planning and continuing to work allies behind the scenes better. Or I suppose one side might keep doing things that make EVEN more question what side they are on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikko Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 LOL, please keep it up, I enjoy reading these threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 LOL, please keep it up, I enjoy reading these threads. I like your sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikko Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I like your sig I like Photoshop. Just don't use it to prove "aggression". LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I like Photoshop. Just don't use it to prove "aggression". LOL But it is aggressive. I know who I am, and what I've done, and TORN is coming for me. Should I be scared? Perhaps if you're going to threaten people, you should name who they are and what they've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 To be fair, those sigs are from a long time ago. I think he just didn't update it. It turned out to be GLOF's release from terms. Well that's what was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newhotness Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 GOD. u guy are the !@#$. I love u and the rest of SF. Stay cool. Brilliant Political Move!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drostan Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) These sure are interesting times... good luck to all parties involved Edited April 18, 2009 by Drostan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Scream Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 All I can say is that our MADP allies OV and GOD are 2 of the best alliance in CN, after VE obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSuck Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 The crap spewed by some people in threads like this is always a good read. Best of luck to my allies in TORN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 The crap spewed by some people in threads like this is always a good read. Best of luck to my allies in TORN Crap spewing is usually a symptom of a bowel obstruction. I switched to high-fibre Twinkies months ago. You can set your watch by me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I agree. It is amusing watching people who are about to start a war claiming that they are the victim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tower IV Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 congratulations GOD. Evidently those birds was not of the same feather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I agree. It is amusing watching people who are about to start a war claiming that they are the victim There's plenty of that going around. However, you guys kinda created the precedent for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 There's plenty of that going around.However, you guys kinda created the precedent for it. Wait, so now you have a problem with the CB used on Polar? I'm sure they would have appreciated your support......eight months ago. But I'll say no more on this since I'm more than certain that Gremlins can defend itself. Plus, I have something else to say. I'm tired and I'm hungry so I'll keep this brief, but since when are you hegemony folks champions of justice? I mean, lately I've seen you guys making excuses and defenses that you laughed eight months ago. "MK/Ivan, you're being too brutal on UBD/CDC." Not to mention neither party did anything horrid, not compared to what you have done. "EZI is bad, so we're going to stop doing." Clearly a PR stunt. Now you're pulling a no you on Gremlins? Oh boy. This reminds of when Bilrow apologized for the Viridicide and the nuking of CIS, blaming it on GOONS and FAN. You're trying to paint Gremlins as bad and hypocritical? Cupcake, that may have worked for your masters against the UJP and FAN, but let's face it, they were easy bad guy. Gremlins and Superfriends, really, you can't make them look bad. Not next to you at least. Not to mention you've used this trick before, and no one is going to fall for it this time. After pulling the same rabbit out of the same hat for years, well, I guess it sort of loses its magic after awhile. I must admit though, it feels nice watching you fellows squirm, especially since I fought your nonsense for over a year. The inevitable victory is going to be great, but watching you in your death throws, it's just priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hob Dobson Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 So have any of the alliances in peace mode attempted to explain what they're doing there Considering the actions attributed to TORN, wouldn't it be more interesting to hear from those among their allies who haven't been told that peace mode would be a good idea? Note that I don't recommend asking TORN, for the simple reason that Big Woody and company could claim that the sky is blue during daytime and there would still be a number of people calling "shens" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Oh Haf. You know you've lost the argument when you start pulling alliance scale ad homs/no u arguments from eight months ago that don't even apply. We declared on Polaris largely due to its position of being a grave threat to us. We did not play the victim or claim that they were planning a war on us, just that they had done so in the past (which they had) and that they would be likely to do so in future if given the chance. However, if I may point out the obvious, we were planning to go to war with Polaris (in fact you linked to the DoW). So is that an admission that TORN and other alliances in that power cluster are planning a war (on the basis of OV, GOD and VE being a threat?) and we should see an an analagous DoW soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Wait, so now you have a problem with the CB used on Polar? Actually, no I don't. I'm just pointing out that it contained exactly the same sorts of claims which Janova is now complaining about others making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Oh Haf. You know you've lost the argument when you start pulling alliance scale ad homs/no u arguments from eight months ago that don't even apply. We declared on Polaris largely due to its position of being a grave threat to us. We did not play the victim or claim that they were planning a war on us, just that they had done so in the past (which they had) and that they would be likely to do so in future if given the chance. I don't see how this belief (which IMO was justified by Polaris leadership actions at the time, I'm not complaining about it at all) differs from "They were plotting against us." However, if I may point out the obvious, we were planning to go to war with Polaris (in fact you linked to the DoW). So is that an admission that TORN and other alliances in that power cluster are planning a war (on the basis of OV, GOD and VE being a threat?) and we should see an an analagous DoW soon? I'm going to quote myself here. You don't always have to declare war; there should be some purpose to a war. Ah, heck. I was quoting Archon there too. You know, it's also worth noting that not every CB leads to war... As to what TORN's plans are, I don't really have any direct knowledge of. They're not my allies, and we really have very little contact. I can make a few educated guesses, but hey. So can you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choader Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 The hypocrisy and redirection here is astounding. Eventually everyone must eat their words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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