Tom Litler Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 So low that it has resorted to supporting its allies?!? With allies like those you didn't need to make so many enemies as you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Vox does claim to be leading a giant conspiracy don’t they? My point was that it's ridiculous, as a member of an alliance that's held GATO under viceroy for over a year, to try to make people think that Vox is somehow trying to prevent GATO from going free. You're just making stuff up at this point. As usual, you managed to miss the point completely. Edited April 16, 2009 by Vilien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Thats one way of looking at it but as we have learned over the past few days from GATO the ending of the viceroy and the PIAT were on the table before Blacky even posted his thread. One could easily argue that Vox and Friends(ie. balcky) were in their last minute desperation trying derail the process and screw GATO over for their own sycophantic cause. For some reason I'm doubting GATO being set free is what Vox is waiting for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTofAK Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 My point was that it's ridiculous, as a member of an alliance that's held GATO under viceroy for over a year, to try to make people think that Vox is somehow trying to prevent GATO from going free. You're just making stuff up at this point. I'm not making anything up. Terms for the freeing of GATO are on the table and all of a sudden their is this massive push by Vox et. al. to have GATO freed. I dont buy that its coincidence. With their spy ring Vox knew full well that GATO viceroyship was coming to an end. Blacky's thread was solely an attempt to derail the process and if that failed at least they could argue that it was the NPO bending to public pressure timeline be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTofAK Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 For some reason I'm doubting GATO being set free is what Vox is waiting for. For some reason I think you missed the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm not making anything up. Terms for the freeing of GATO are on the table and all of a sudden their is this massive push by Vox et. al. to have GATO freed. I dont buy that its coincidence. With their spy ring Vox knew full well that GATO viceroyship was coming to an end. Blacky's thread was solely an attempt to derail the process and if that failed at least they could argue that it was the NPO bending to public pressure timeline be damned. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Why would Blacky, of all people, be trying to derail GATO being freed? Any concrete evidence there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Why would Blacky, of all people, be trying to derail GATO being freed? Any concrete evidence there? He is claiming that Blacky was trying to take advantage of the GATO situation for propaganda purposes, and that said propaganda would be weakened if GATO became free. Whether this is true or not is one thing; trying to portray the allegation as ridiculous is either hyperbole or ... something else. Lots of people have used the political situations of others for propaganda purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Roboto Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Every time I start to dislike you guys, you turn around and do something like this. Truly a noble alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 He is claiming that Blacky was trying to take advantage of the GATO situation for propaganda purposes, and that said propaganda would be weakened if GATO became free.Whether this is true or not is one thing; trying to portray the allegation as ridiculous is either hyperbole or ... something else. Lots of people have used the political situations of others for propaganda purposes. Some of us actually speak out for freedom out of our own good will, you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thats one way of looking at it but as we have learned over the past few days from GATO the ending of the viceroy and the PIAT were on the table before Blacky even posted his thread. One could easily argue that Vox and Friends(ie. balcky) were in their last minute desperation trying derail the process and screw GATO over for their own sycophantic cause. No, actually one could not argue that. People posting in support of freeing GATO cannon be blamed for the NPO being jerks and holding onto GATO longer because their posts. The only one at fault would be the NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Blacky's thread was solely an attempt to derail the process... No it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Geez Louise, you guys are still trying to spin this? I guess I can't fault your persistence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Geez Louise, you guys are still trying to spin this?I guess I can't fault your persistence. I believe it was your alliance member whom was trying to do the spinning here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some of us actually speak out for freedom out of our own good will, you know? Sure, and it would be ridiculous for me to claim that you weren't in one particular instance? Nah. Relentless hyperbole weakens the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Sure, and it would be ridiculous for me to claim that you weren't in one particular instance?Nah. Relentless hyperbole weakens the argument. Nice cop-out. See, straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffron X Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 No, actually one could not argue that. People posting in support of freeing GATO cannon be blamed for the NPO being jerks and holding onto GATO longer because their posts. The only one at fault would be the NPO. Triyun was joking when he said that, you know. If people's posts about GATO really made us hold on to them longer, this would be the worst time to release them, because they've sort of hit their peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Great to see GATO freed. Also, am I the only person that thinks that Jarheads will be dead within another month? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffron X Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Great to see GATO freed. Also, am I the only person that thinks that Jarheads will be dead within another month? No, you're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Republic of Roma Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Since NPO stopped attacking me, am I off their ZI list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederico Rodriguez Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 o/ GATO!o/ Pacifica! o/ Moo! Edit: It's been a pleasure working with GATO these past months. I wish them great success. However, that doesn't mean they're rid of me just yet BAKA FOR AC :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobb Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 I'm glad GATO is free, though their freedom should've never been taken away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 So Daed and Co. can go back now? That's good. Have fun GATO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Geez Louise, you guys are still trying to spin this?I guess I can't fault your persistence. What is there to spin? Your alliance commits several unjustifiable acts and later apologizes for them when PR gets rough. Well, not exactly an apology put rather giving back the sovereignty you wrongfully took from GATO in the first place. Are you expected to be thanked and congratulated? Think about it for a moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Moon Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 What is there to spin? Your alliance commits several unjustifiable acts and later apologizes for them when PR gets rough. Well, not exactly an apology put rather giving back the sovereignty you wrongfully took from GATO in the first place. Are you expected to be thanked and congratulated? Think about it for a moment. At least it wasn't chalked up to a clerical error like the year-long GPA nuke ban. Progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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