European War OOC Thread

[Mogar]

 

I would like it to be made aware that in accordance with the F-23s that GM approval was given for them. I have only just been made aware of this and as such any such issue with them passes well beyond my station and into the hands of the GMs. 

So then if it really fucking matters we can get GM approval for a block 4 Tomahawk, would that satisfy you? I'm sure it fits into your ideal RP world to have every single minutia of tech add another few days in between postings for this war.

[Kevin Kingswell]

Good thing I only use the F-22 which is in use and the B-1B for my high speed bomber, b2 for my stealth bomber and the space plane.. which I have mounted with autocannons for evil shenanigans.

 

You remembering to RP the mechanical fault that has grounded the entire F-22 fleet unless it has now been discovered and fixed. Or was it the F-35 that was grounded? Think it was the F-22.

 

 

So then if it really !@#$@#$ matters we can get GM approval for a block 4 Tomahawk, would that satisfy you? I'm sure it fits into your ideal RP world to have every single minutia of tech add another few days in between postings for this war.

 

Actually no, what I would like the most is for people to just shrug and decide that they may need to use an alternative and get on to the writing. As it is I think too much focus is on the tech anyway. Though it certainly has its place. But to answer your question if you got GM approval for the Block IV then yes I would accept it as I would for anything GM approved. 

Edited October 16, 2014 by Kevin Kingswell

[Mogar]

 

You remembering to RP the mechanical fault that has grounded the entire F-22 fleet unless it has now been discovered and fixed. Or was it the F-35 that was grounded? Think it was the F-22.

It was the F-35.

[Triyun]

 

You remembering to RP the mechanical fault that has grounded the entire F-22 fleet unless it has now been discovered and fixed. Or was it the F-35 that was grounded? Think it was the F-22.

 

F-22s are not grounded, they flew their first combat mission recently.

[Markus Wilding]

I would like to ask for evidence the GMs ruled on your having F-22s. I do not remember condoning such a ruling.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

 

 

You remembering to RP the mechanical fault that has grounded the entire F-22 fleet unless it has now been discovered and fixed. Or was it the F-35 that was grounded? Think it was the F-22.

 

 

F-22 had an air supply fault, That's been repaired and the F22 has been used in Syria recently, its first time seeing combat they say.

 

 

Markus: I think you meant to say f-23 which is a more controversial craft.

Edited October 16, 2014 by Maelstrom Vortex

[Kevin Kingswell]

It was the F-35.

 

 

 

F-22s are not grounded, they flew their first combat mission recently.

 

I see thanks, I honestly couldn't remember which one it was. Kind of annoying as the F-35 is meant to becoming us Brits next war plane. 

[Centurius]

I would like to ask for evidence the GMs ruled on your having F-22s. I do not remember condoning such a ruling.

Of course you don't seeing as you weren't a GM. Ask rudy, he approved it.

[Generalissimo]

 

OOC:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmx_z3b1_YWTcpjRvQeQW_Ky0X4RQUTxG

 

Also regarding Mara's stuff following Ty's instructions:

 

Ty: She wasn't able to provide me with proof, so assume she's using whatever highest tech is available for her [12:22am]

 

I'm RPing her stuff as the highest tech year, which means those Growlers she RPs (neither Ty or I can figure out the numbers of how she got them aren't around.)  Should she provide proof, I'll edit accordingly.

 

IC:

 

 

 

 

The forward reconnaissance elements of the Plains Federation Fleet, had already heightened the alert causing aircraft patrols to be taken off, movement of key personnel, targeting updates, and increase signal monitoring and deployment of high altitude ISR assets across the Isles and the outlying regions to support what increasingly seemed to be more than just an exercise.  Air sirens ran across the nation as the mobilization was noticed with spikes in spectrum activity around Britain, giving people a chance to take cover before the chaos of war erupted if only for a moment.  

 

Across the British Nation, the incoming attack had been well prepared for and would be ready to be responded to in kind.  As expected large amounts of enemy fire were being amassed  against them, without a strong integrated operational level plan

.  Predator UAVs and the like the French sent in their initial wave, were wholly unsurvivable in a full spectrum threat environment would be easy pickings as they ran into the British combat air patrols as well as the IADS system, mobile AA guns, etc, advanced missiles would not be used to deal with the low end threats as well as their low end ordinance, however, it gave just enough notice to get the Brits a good adrenaline rush going.  

 

With the nation on high alert pilots were scrambling to their aircraft in the South as the first waves came in, almost as soon as they did PNT spoofing and downlink jamming systems[1] came on across the South for all but the British PNT military grade encryption signals.  The attacks included not just advanced jamming but brute force attacks upon which would in large measure neutralize the GNO3 guidance systems aboard the missile systems.  This would leave inertial guidance for land targets, and radar guidance for the rest of the targets.  (OOC: This statement applies to all missiles).  The net result would be a massive increase the CEP of individual missiles, making them more akin to mass area dumb bomb attacks on a general area of the countryside.

 

The calculated effect of this would be to have damage more wide spread but allow critical targets more breathing room from saturation attacks.  The British Combat Air patrols as well as airborne and space borne sensor assets fed into the national cruise missile defense system, which rapidly programmed which assets would still hit critical military/dual use targets and which would effect surrounding areas, further the high altitude of the sensors and high emissions of the Brahmos missiles made them more susceptible to engagement from distance.  A game of streaming missile tag scored across the skies of England as civilian targets were punished with brute force attacks along with non-wartime headquarters, such as Buckingham and White Hall, but the war bunkers, the national fighting structures remained largely intact.  Orders were given to hunker down in Bunkers as these areas were left undefended.  The small apartments at 10 Downing Street and its surrounding neighbors suffered particularly as hundreds of thousands of pounds in priceless 19th century mahogany furniture were subject to devastation by 2 billion dollars worth of Japanese cruise missiles or twice the price tag of the 2011 American Libyan Intervention.  It was truly a tragedy.  

 

At the end of the attack much of downtown London had been subject to a devastating bombardment, but the British flag remained.  Many civilian homes were without power, rail lines remained mostly operational as reductions in CEP as well as the general ill-suitedness of the kinetic power based weapon, with a relatively light task left to defending the key aspects of the British Army, resulting in a minor degradation of national effectiveness but a great deal of systems key to the nation left uninterrupted.

 

Heart of Oak:

 

At sea the presence of reconnaissance by the Plains Federation was a large tip off for the already alert naval forces.  In fact, the arrogance of the Plains Federation Admiral could be the deciding factor for the entirety of the War.  British aircraft began quickly taking off from their decks surging the presence of the British fleet in the Atlantic, while the use of pencil beam style radar largely masked their presence as they went into maneuvers vs the rest of the adversary fleets.  The British task forces began to move Northwards towards the gap between Scotland, Ireland, and Iceland, engaging in zig zag manuvers and forces came in for the attack.  Moving at full speed, the ability for the enemy fleets to sub sonic missile attacks to close range before running out of gas was largely negated.  

 

The fleets deployment of F/A-18’s APG-79 radars would give the fleet advanced readings on cruise missile forces lower radar cross section and downwards surface capabilities.  E/A-18Gs would provide jamming for the fleet as it moved back.  Harpoons with their shorter range and much more advanced engines and guidance packages would be the most difficult to intercept.  Growler jamming at longer range, right outside the enemy fleet air defense nets would prevent course corrections for missiles, causing them to expend fuel while trio of B-1 Rs at stand off range would engage them, using updated data from the F-18 AESA radars to achieve maximum kill ratio.  60 harpoons would be brought down like this, before the B-1s super cruised back to Scotland while those closest to the Irish coast would be engaged and destroyed by ASTER-30 missiles, slaved to the skyborne radars, bringing down an additional 32, while a second wave of Growlers would provide close in fleet jamming support, complimenting onboard electronic warfare systems, and the fleets radars would be integrated with onboard ones.  Of the original 288 harpoons (Mara said just her ‘vettes shot harpoons each able to fire a max of 8, and Lyn said assume a 1:4 ratio, with him firing 1000 missiles total), this left a total of, 196 for the entirety of the royal navy.  

 

Jamming managed to take care of an additional 60, bringing the number down to 132 to engage.  Combining the sea borne and air borne radars, most of cruise missiles advantages were heavily negated as missile after missile destroyed them, 90 neutralized a mid range, 30 at close and terminal range, leaving 12 to slam into targets, one San Antonio took significant damage eating two, another hit the side of a frigate causing significant damage, a three slammed into one of the WASP class causing significant damage, two hit littoral combat ships brining them to take on water and have significant damage, while the Warspite pulled a sharp turn as one slammed into the water, the mighty carier finally took two to the side, its armor was heavily damaged and several planes were lost but the ships were still very much in tact.  The fleet continued at full speed.  

 

The tomahawks were a whole different matter.  Fired at near max range it would take them nearly half an hour to reach their targets, actually even longer, because the fleet was moving away, and the Tomahawk missiles were also heavily jammed, in a electro magnetically contested environment, rendering lock near impossible to keep.  (In fact this largely had to do with the reason that the U.S. Navy had decommissioned them, and that was in an era where airborne AESA radars were practically non-existent for early detection and the American military owned the EM spectrum for doing course updates.)  In the end the Tomahawk was simply an awful choice for the attack.  Most crashing into the water after expending fuel trying to re-lock on and re-lock on and the remaining easily soaked up by the combined fleet defenses.  

 

The deployment of Japanese RQ-170s from France would also set off alarm bells as they flew over the British isles to their targets (RQ-170s are land launched and shorter range, I don’t see how this is avoidable to get to the Royal Navy.  While the RQ-170 had very limited radar low obervability features, it was not by any means a stealth aircraft, F-15 Slam Eagles flew up to intercept it quite readily, leaving the follow on attacks blind.  Now was the battle in the air…

 

Fighters swarmed hrough the sky, as the attackers entered the hornets nest that were the British Isles and their surrounding seas!

 

F-23s in formations of 4 would be divided through the fronts using their advanced AESA radars and IRST systems with low probability of intercept to monitor, and send over pencil beam low probability of intercept frequencies to other fighter formations in the area, while maintaining super cruise and high altitude, as well as taking advantage of their loitering time.  Most Advanced F/A-18 E/Fs on offense would be equipped with weapons pods, while on defense they would combine external armaments, this allowed hem to maximize stealth.  Slam Eagles would also maximize their stealth for intercepting incoming forces. 

 

Homing in on beacons of EM energy approaching ranging from AWACs to growlers, the F-23s would engage these targets at superior altitude, using their stealth and sensors to get the jump on them as they engaged hem.  E-2s and E-3s would be relatively easy targets, while Growlers would be at severe kinematic disadvantages vis-a-vis the Black widows, who kept the fight closer to their fleets, and out of range for Raptors from France to scramble, without attaching fuel tanks thereby ruining their stealth, and inviting the wrath of the British IADS.  

 

At the same time, British growlers would work to prevent radar lock and detection, while interior EC-130 Js would block communications between the squadrons,  and British, Sea, Land, and Air radars including E-3 and E-2s would help monitor aircraft and missiles as they came in.  Both fleets and ground based defenses would engage enemy planes, while the British air force would employ swarming tactics, given their much lower detection ranges and lower flight times, allowing them to swarm in on clusters of enemy aircraft.  Jamming missile locks, while being pummeled by outnumbered aircraft, while B-1 Rs would provide long range defense, firing off volleys to defeat enemy aircraft and the missiles they managed to get off.  The results would be that the British would never enter into aircraft engagements where they didn’t have advantages in altitude, fuel, and numbers, as well as superior detection ranges, giving them near certainties to overcome each wave, while the enemy aircraft would need to also fight through the IADS and seabased SAM nests around the British Isles.  

 

F-15s and F-23s would take particular pleasure in forcing fights with the older F/A-18 Super Hornets of the Plains Federation, which would be torn to shreds, without the presence of AESA Radars.  They’d also prioritize engaging the Growlers of the enemy air power, pounding them relentlessly, even at the cost of letting some super hornets escape.  The reason for this was simple, there was about to be a very very nasty surprise.

 

A combination attack would be employed to pound the enemy force.  ASBMs would be employed against the enemy fleet, taking advantage of the deployment of a semi-circle (OOC: Mogar’s words, logs provided on request), to target the fleets weaker carrier elements which were less protected.  With the enemy forces spamming up fighters, their positions would easily be identifiable.  One key would be the engagement of the the three carriers from the Plains Federation, because the Plains Federation had significantly less advanced EM capabilities to protect itself from the incoming ASBMs.  Each of the EAI and the Tikal carriers would be saturated by 12 ASBMs fielding a mix of four armor penetrating warheads capable of doing in the carriers, along with 8 bomblet warheads which were more than enough to demolish the capabilities to launch (and crucially with the massive deployment of aircaft land) planes on the carrier decks.  The dispersed bomblet attacks would have the additional advantage in that they’d make point defenses even more difficult to defeat.  The Plains Federation faced 16 a piece, with an even distribution between dispersed bomblets and armor penetrating warheads to bring their carriers to their knees.

 

At the same time flying past the fighter engagements two growlers per squadron of rafales, 140 aircraft total, flew through towards the Plains Federation fleets.  Conducting directed electronic attacks and DRFM jamming of their defenses, which were especially vulnerable without the presence of AESA radars as on newer models of aircraft and ships.  The Rafales unleashed exocet cruise missiles, while the growlers fired off Harpoons, with special targeting being given to the carriers, sixty missiles per carrier from a mere 60 kilometer ranger, while air to air missiles were prepped for any additional hornets to engage within this close to the enemy formations.  This had the dual effect of also forcing the alignment of radars between high altitude ballistic and low altitude cruise missiles in order to be able to target both.  

 

Simultaneous with these attacks, with the enemy fleet configured in a semi circle the most of the British Surface Fleet went North in a straight on attack towards that flank, while a escorted carrier force moved towards the North East of Scotland, under the umbrella of the national interceptor and missile defense system.  The force unleashed hell on the coalitions North side, escorted by rotating aircraft and jammers, Naval strike missiles fired at the out defense like from 100 kilometers in rapid salvos from littoral combat ships, targeting fleet picket units, before using their speed to retreat.  Each ship firing salvos of the advanced sea skimming high subsonic missiles, which also utilized advanced imaging technology to avoid radar and infrared countermeasure jamming.  E/A-18G Growlers meanwhile utilized spoofing and DRFM jamming techniques to provide greater amounts of decoys for the enemy missile defense forces.  Groups of three super hornets and the growlers committed to the missions followed on with swarms of SLAM-ER missiles from the supporting aircraft and 200 kilometer range swarms of RGM/AGM-84L missiles 180 in total, following in with the highly concentrated attacks.  At the same time as the fleets were punching through the Northern perimeter of the Semi-Circle, from the home islands, targeting drones had been marshaled into service, providing decoys mimicing the patterns of missiles, to hold enemy forces at bay.  And the employment of land based anti-ship missiles held the Southern hook of the semi-circle out to see, ready to pound it with missiles if it moved close to Cornwall, Ireland, or Wales, forcing them to move out to sea and have difficult coming to the aid of the northern area, in time for the British superior concentration of fire power to be brought to bear.

 

Meanwhile along English and along both sides channel inside the IADS the British B-2 force was commiting its own mission.  Its goal was not to strike the French, but rather it deployed 1600 naval mines around usable beach landing zones, and forcing French ships that may have sought to use the channel to project more power into Southern England far to the French side of it.  Simultaneously, 1000 SRBMs combined with a hidden wave from Scotland of 2000 Tomahawk IV missiles were employed again used while EC-130 Js jammed interlinked communications on the French side, while decoys provided additional jamming.  Using terrain hugging the cruise missiles swarmed in on targets evading hardened defenses till the very end before converging on target areas from multiple directions forcing reorientation of radars, which impeded accuracy against the multiple vectored assault, which in its final stages for the most part used a combinations of bomblets and missiles.  Unlike the Brahmos system, the PNT recievers on tomahawks were battle tested and highly highly jam resistant.  Ballistic missiles while obviously not capable of swarming, came in at steep angles being employed against larger heavier radar and air locations.  While the employment of coordinated attack of ballistic missiles, forced the radars to be diversified and the automated systems needed to engage both set to different modes, rendering defenses less effective.  Radars and aircraft installations, most particularly those that held the F-22s raptor forces were targeted (raptors being identified by having been flown into France with no normal radar signature but showed up on some OTH systems.)  Additionally focus was put on putting most of the fields in Northern France where the Raptors could use their 400 kilo combat radius offline, forcing Raptors in future missions to be deployed at least for now with external fuel tanks, dampening stealth and rendering them vulnerable to the outer layers of SAMs as soon as they neared the channel from France. 

 

Units moving to engage targets in space, were for the most part disappointed at least for now.  British electromagnetic jamming made lock ons of ASATS moving from the fleets in contention difficult, in the end a British Imager satellite and two civilian comm satellites were lost.  However, the British were also going to be hitting targets combining the deployment of directed energy weapons to jam satellites and kinetic attacks to take them down.

 

British forces around the islands had been mobilized with mobile forces ready to defend the beaches and air defenses ready to repulse airborne drops.  Civilian boats had been sent out in various locations both to continue their livelihoods, but many also had listening equipment on them.  Concentric rings of anti-air and anti-ship missiles stood ready, as the British Sub force stood silent guard.  All was now ready.

 

“We are ready for you, Your Imperial Highness”

Anysus nodded at the aide who had come to forward the message, the time of war was finally upon Carthage and figuring out just what to say had taken him way longer than it should. As he looked over his statement one more time he left his office and walked to the media room. The Imperial Command Centre truly was prepared for everything. Once there he took a seat behind the desk. Behind him was a large flag of Carthage.

“You are on in 5… 4… 3… 2… 1...”
 

Operation: Dateline

As the General Staff had long since forwarded the orders for this offensive it took only the declaration to kick it into action. When it came to the Carthaginian-French frontline there was one important advantage in effect for both sides. The Pyrenees. However in effect these would prove a lot more advantageous to Carthage than France, surveillance had long since determined the presence of American and Japanese forces in France and the presence of these natural barriers made sure the Carthaginian side of the border was easily defended against enemy incursion. Even if in superior numbers. To aid in the defence of Iberia the Carthaginian Air Force would dedicated F-15 Slam Eagles and F-1s to protect the airspace near the border and quickly intercept any airborne threat that crossed the border. These fighters would also serve to protect Predator and Reaper drones in the area tasked with watching the border and engaging any enemy forces that tried to use the few passes available to them. On the other side elements of the Carthaginian Army were well hidden and in protected positions to avoid easy determination of just how large their force was while artillery stood ready to light up any incursion that managed to get beyond the drones. To support all other operations and track French movements four Global Hawks would be launched, one focused on the Western Mediterranean while the other three would fly over France to support existing satellite surveillance and make sure any move was detected well in advance.

The true offensive element of this operation for now would go for an angle it seemed the enemy had not anticipated. Launching from air bases in Libya and Algeria the full B-1-R bomber force would go into the air. 20 of these had been loaded with JASSM-ERs while another 10 were loaded with Apaches and the final six had been placed in an air-to-air set up filled with Meteors. Growlers would make sure that the electronic warfare element was covered. As soon as the bomber force was just to the east of the Balearics and to the west of Sardinia the twenty bombers would deploy a total of 480 JASSM-ERs headed for military facilities along the South-Eastern coastline of France. In order(with the first being the most important and the last the least important), air force(and air defences), army, navy and government facilities in this region would be hit by missiles seeking to do as much damage to the French defensive capability as possible. Once these 20 bombers had released their weapons they would turn around and head back to their bases while the remaining 16 and their fighter escort continued. As soon as the ten bombers equipped with Apaches were in range they would release a total of 240 apaches to deal with the runways not hit by the initial strike. One these final missiles were away the aircraft would head back home. Protected by the bombers still in an air-to-air configuration and Slam Eagles that had launched from Sardinia. This however would not be the end of it for the Mediterranean coast. Operating from trucks and rails a total of twenty Jericho 2s armed with 1000kg high explosive warheads were launched from Libya and Algeria. The expected time of impact of these missiles was timed to be a mere few minutes after the bombing run and would hit the larger bases where simply the initial strikes weren’t enough to do plenty of damage.

This first part served to both affect the French ability to project air power into the Mediterranean but also as a distraction for what the true goal of Carthage was today.

By all indications Imperial Intelligence had determined Corsica was poorly defended and without French fleets in the Mediterranean to support it the island was open to attacks from three sides. The priorities of the enemy however was not a concern of Carthage and it was going to take advantage of the situation.
From launchers in Sardinia a total of 500 Tomahawks(Block IV) were fired against military positions throughout Corsica however great focus was placed on hitting the southern half. These missile strikes would primarily be aimed at taking out air defences as well as air bases and hangars to avoid giving the French the capacity to protect the air space or use close air support. What came next would be a combined offensive that would make even the most experienced generals in Carthage proud. In a coordinated effort two F-1 squadrons, and the previously used Slam Eagle squadrons entered Corsican air space to take out whatever aircraft they had managed to put in the air as well as surviving ground-based defences. All of these efforts were again supported by Growlers to keep up sustained jamming and add to the confusion most likely present on the island and back at French command. The final stage of this assault would come in the form of twenty A400Ms dropping a total of 2320 fully armed troops just west of Bonifacio with orders to take the southern part of Corsica. At the same time thirty LCUs departed from Sardinia. On them were a total of 5250 soldiers belonging to the Sea Army and thirty M1A3s. These forces would land at the airport near Ajaccio and move to take the airport and once owning it move on to take the rest of the city to establish another beachhead for Carthage to take Corsica. All ground operations and landings were supported by F-15Is, Predators and Reapers.

Operation: Predator

While the offensive against France went on there was another battle key in winning the war. The British response against quite honestly the pathetic failure that was the enemy naval offensive would most likely leave an effect but Carthage wasn’t confident in relying simply on those to make the enemy realize just how bad they $%&@ed it up. This was of course made easier by the fact that the Carthaginian Navy didn’t have too much to worry about with Tikal. After all SOSUS wasn’t an active detection system and required actually being over one of the lines and due to Carthage already flying CAPs which were obviously supported by AWACS and other detection systems combined with the massive output that was AWACS to effectively be out of range of the ability of Carthage to detect Tikal they needed to be so far out that they couldn’t even hope to detect or track Carthaginian positions. To protect the Carthaginian fleet black communication protocols had started as soon as the ‘exercises’ first began which kept the ships from using longer range communication systems and any communication still maintained would be highly encrypted. Orders from Carthage would also shift to be entirely in code language as well to avoid any sensitive information being intercepted. The ships already had their orders after all and Carthaginian sailors were effective enough to operate without the need of constant communications. For now however the role of the Navy in the counter-offensive would stay limited as they continued operating in dispersed groups to avoid detection of the entire fleet in one single attempt.

Operating from bases in Portugal four Global Hawks had been sent over the ‘exercise’ locations as well as the Central Atlantic in general. Using the information from these feeds as well as British information, Carthage her own satellite and of course radar systems they had been fairly effective in designating the enemy ships and more specifically which were most important for the survival of the enemy offensive. Following the British offensive carriers that still remained afloat would be targeted by 12 ASBMs each launched from silos in Portugal and Galicia. From these same bases ASBMs would be launched at enemy capital ships. Every enemy ship within range of Naval Strike Missiles along the Carthaginian coasts would be assaulted by 20 NSMs each that were launched from ground-based launchers. Meanwhile the Carthaginian fleets would position themselves to prevent support from coming in to support the enemy fleets currently taking a beating while also making sure that attempts to evade British attacks by moving south would receive a whole new surprise if ASBMs didn’t suffice. Of course these ships continued regular tactics to avoid detection and more importantly tracking or the enemy establishing locks, they would also avoid being within radar range of the French. In line with this CAPs remained while satellites and UAVs made sure to find and track any enemy ship that might engage Carthage or breach its security barriers.

Finally the two submarines armed with nuclear weapons were positioned in the right places to bring hell to the enemy in a worst case scenario.

Finally, some action.

Blood for the Blood God!

Skulls for the Skull Throne!

[Shave N Haircut]

With all due respect.

 

I will not reply to anything Triyun has posted until it is written in understandable English. Sentence structure is important.

[Lysergide]

In all due respect, I am going to roll a pair dice, and you all guess the number, whomever guess right wins the war.

[Lestari]

With all due respect.

 

I will not reply to anything Triyun has posted until it is written in understandable English. Sentence structure is important.

with all due respect i refuse to acknowledge the existence of this post because 'With all due respect' is a sentence fragment and i cannot stomach posts that aren't 100 per cent grammatically flawless

[Peter Ilyich]

With all due respect.
 
I will not reply to anything Triyun has posted until it is written in understandable English. Sentence structure is important.

I have not been very involved, if at all, in this war. However, after reading a couple of Tryiun's posts, I do believe it is ridiculous that someone would have to look in the dictionary like, three times per post to be able to reply. It is, as I said, ridiculous. Edited October 18, 2014 by Ferdinand Foch

[Mogar]

with all due respect i refuse to acknowledge the existence of this post because 'With all due respect' is a sentence fragment and i cannot stomach posts that aren't 100 per cent grammatically flawless

I await your vomiting from being unable to capitalize the letter W.

[Hereno]

i need a new avatar

 

oh hey what's going on in here?

 

carry on then

[Lysergide]

I would like to point out that Kevin Kingswell has posted that he is bringing with him anti-aircraft weapons, as well as artillery with him on his invasion of France, when he has no prior RP of their existence. And I also will post this here, [url=http://puu.sh/cguUw/b8c786eb88.png]link[/url] which was screenshot an hour or so ago to keep records of his military. His tank battalions also existed as none described so by unanimous IRC vote, we all decided they were A7V's.

 

Logs for Proof:

 

<+Lysergide> Markus_Wilding: We all voted that Koolkevz666 had A7V tanks right?

<@Markus_Wilding> yes

<@Markus_Wilding> yes we did, Lysergide

[Shave N Haircut]

with all due respect i refuse to acknowledge the existence of this post because 'With all due respect' is a sentence fragment and i cannot stomach posts that aren't 100 per cent grammatically flawless

Perhaps you would prefer it if it had a Colon.

 

In light of recent translations from several experts, I am indeed prepared to reply to the referred-to post.

Edited October 18, 2014 by Shave N Haircut

[Triyun]

I had it reviewed by multiple people who've studied modern strategy for clarity, my understanding was you were on expert on this.

Edited October 18, 2014 by Triyun

[Yawoo]

As an outside observer... this war has been hilarious so far. So much whining and fussing before any major casualties... delicious.

[Horo the Wise Wolf]

I would like to point out that Kevin Kingswell has posted that he is bringing with him anti-aircraft weapons, as well as artillery with him on his invasion of France, when he has no prior RP of their existence. And I also will post this here, link which was screenshot an hour or so ago to keep records of his military. His tank battalions also existed as none described so by unanimous IRC vote, we all decided they were A7V's.
 
Logs for Proof:
 
<+Lysergide> Markus_Wilding: We all voted that Koolkevz666 had A7V tanks right?
<@Markus_Wilding> yes
<@Markus_Wilding> yes we did, Lysergide

Since when have we had to RP the prior existence of standard military equipment (such as Navies, which precedent has been "just make it appear in your own borders and we're good")? Edited October 18, 2014 by Horo the Wise Wolf

[Shave N Haircut]

I had it reviewed by multiple people who've studied modern strategy for clarity, my understanding was you were on expert on this.

Next time have it reviewed by people who've studied modern grammar ;p

[Kevin Kingswell]

Since when have we had to RP the prior existence of standard military equipment (such as Navies, which precedent has been "just make it appear in your own borders and we're good)?

 

Horo is right, things like artillery and other combat units are common sense and I have never seen a rule that says it is mandatory for a nation's military to have RP showing prior existence. So I suggest you stop your complaining Lysergide and just get on with the war, I am one of the more accepting players here if you ask Mael but you are really trying my patience with this crap. 

[Evangeline Anovilis]

I would like to point out Ty's ruling that people can have what they are entitled to, without prior RP, as has been ruled on Rudolph's navy. It might also be worth pointing out, that apart from Ty, we have no uninvolved GMs.

[Shave N Haircut]

I would like to point out Ty's ruling that people can have what they are entitled to, without prior RP, as has been ruled on Rudolph's navy. It might also be worth pointing out, that apart from Ty, we have no uninvolved GMs.

 

Since when have we had to RP the prior existence of standard military equipment (such as Navies, which precedent has been "just make it appear in your own borders and we're good)?

Horo is right, things like artillery and other combat units are common sense and I have never seen a rule that says it is mandatory for a nation's military to have RP showing prior existence. So I suggest you stop your complaining Lysergide and just get on with the war, I am one of the more accepting players here if you ask Mael but you are really trying my patience with this crap.

I agree, I myself have several times pulled military equipment out of nowhere because it was logical to assume that I possessed such weapons, or that I could have produced them. To say otherwise would be the height of hypocrisy. Edited October 18, 2014 by Shave N Haircut

[PresidentDavid]

Pulling a $5-billion dollar aircraft carrier out of your butt seems silly though.