Yerushalayim Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ship numbers edited in for ya Eva. Sorry about that delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 This thread got retarded by the end of page 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 War, war never changes. Since the dawn of CNRP, when our ancestors discovered the winning power of OOC whining, threads have been filled with steaming piles of bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Oh by the by Mara, when did you get Super Hornets, your factbook has 400 Raptors, 20 B-2, 60 B-52s (which incidentally on the first two I'm not sure you counted as two for one because that'd put you taking up air force slots almost as much as me and I have more troops to take from and you have a big army) http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/122097-plains-federation-factbook/?p=3262752 I looked didn't see any post changing that force composition, I'm pretty sure you can't switch horses in the middle of a war no IC mention just to have the ability to hit me without falling into the Atlantic from a lack of gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Lyn and Mara if you could both query me on IRC, your posts seem to be using stuff that either have movements that make no sense or are using stuff that does not exist in 2014 military tech. If we can get this ironed out I can post up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywall Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 godfuckingdammit let me know when the war actually starts, k? k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Ty, unfortunately, I will have to make another request of you, because I cannot find it and Mara refuses to provide the links. However, Mara is RPing warships and missiles that she does not have the in game tech to support. She claimed they were foreign built but I simply do not see a thread indicating that. Could you ask her to provide that information. As a note I would also like to know when Mara switched her force lay out to have Super Hornets, because it seems like she altered her planes from her factbook and never RPed it. Her factbook included much more capable F-22s, but F-22s can't be carrier launched. Her math in her factbook also does not seem to add up to that she can field the air force she has 400 F-22s, 60 B-52s and 20 B-2s with that counting as 840 aircraft, when she lists her troops levels as max 10x her civilians, the maximum she's afforded in this RP. I do apologize for the delay, I wanted to do IRC because it is the fastest, but apparently one cannot simply talk :P Logs of our convo: [spoiler]Triyun: Could you answer a few questions [3:53pm] Triyun: “would bring their radar suites online, but not in transmit/receive mode” <— radars work by transmitting out signals and recieving signals, so what do you mean here? [5:05pm] JadeLithaen: Bringing the radar into standby mode. The circuits are warm, they're just not being used. Most of the radars I work with have this mode; my CIWS mount does, and the SPY techs have on for their system, as well. [5:06pm] JadeLithaen: It basically lowers the time required to spin up to full power. [5:06pm] Triyun: Ok [5:06pm] Triyun: standby I am familiar with [5:07pm] Triyun: next how’re you closing the distance [5:07pm] Triyun: with your surface ships [5:12pm] JadeLithaen: How I'm closing the distance? Probably moving forward at the same speed as Tikal ' s ships. [5:13pm] Triyun: Well those weapons are pretty close range, the other thing is are your ships with the carriers or are your carriers within 120 kilo range of my ships [5:13pm] Triyun: cause the harpoon only fires 120 kilos [5:15pm] JadeLithaen: The carriers, of course, will stay out of range because they can. The TASM have something like a 700 to 1000 mile range. [5:15pm] Triyun: No it doesn't [5:17pm] Triyun: it has a 460 kilo range and that’s only part of what you fired you fired a mix of it and harpoons [5:18pm] JadeLithaen: Uh, negative. It has the same range as the TLAM, last I checked, and that's actually up to 1700 kilos. [5:18pm] Triyun: No [5:20pm] JadeLithaen: Show me where you're getting your numbers from, please. [5:20pm] Triyun: http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-109.html [5:24pm] JadeLithaen: RGM/UGM-109C Block III: Range: 1600km (870 nm) [5:25pm] Triyun: try again [5:25pm] Triyun: RGM/UGM-109B Tomahawk Anti Ship Missile (TASM) – radar guided anti-shipping variant; withdrawn from service in the 1990s. [5:26pm] Triyun: C is land attack [5:27pm] Triyun: C is the conventional land attack [5:34pm] JadeLithaen disconnected from the server. [5:34pm] JadeLithaen is now available. [5:39pm] Triyun: hey saw you DCed I didn’t get a response [5:40pm] JadeLithaen: Can you resend your question? [5:42pm] Triyun: Simply that well as I showed you that variant you cited was the tomahawk land attack missile, not the anti-ship one. The anti-ship one has 460 kilo range not 1700, but either way, how’re you in range to fire tomahawks and harpoons with all those ships, or are your carriers unprotected [5:42pm] JadeLithaen: As a note, I just edited in a line to clarify what my RADAR were doing and that my Carriers are sticking within mutual defense range of Lyn's carriers and escorts. [5:43pm] Triyun: and your surface combatents are far forward? [5:43pm] JadeLithaen: My carriers are protected. They each have an escort, as do Lyn's. They themselves are relatively well armed for anti-missile/anti-ship duties. [5:44pm] Triyun: carriers? [5:44pm] Triyun: you aren’t allowed to have custom ships so… [5:44pm] JadeLithaen: Not going to argue that one with you. [5:44pm] Triyun: I’m simply asking then [5:45pm] JadeLithaen: My destroyers are within SM-2ER range. [5:45pm] Triyun: what class are they, the rules were pretty clear apply to everyone [5:45pm] JadeLithaen: of my carriers. [5:45pm] Triyun: Are you destroyers within harpoon range of my ships? [5:45pm] JadeLithaen: George HW Bush. [5:45pm] Triyun: I’m sorry? [5:45pm] JadeLithaen: that's the subclass of my carriers [5:46pm] JadeLithaen: Nimitz, subclass GHWB. [5:46pm] Triyun: How did you build that [5:46pm] Triyun: if you have 200 tech? [5:46pm] JadeLithaen: Remember, Tri, this was explained to you already [5:46pm] JadeLithaen: It isn't tech, it's infra. [5:46pm] Triyun: no [5:46pm] Triyun: but tech level [5:46pm] Triyun: determines what you can build [5:46pm] Triyun: and if something was built in 2008 [6:16pm] Triyun: ? [7:12pm] JadeLithaen: As a note, my ships are using the RGM-84L Block 2 Harpoon with a range of 150 nm. [7:12pm] JadeLithaen: As to your question of how I'm building the ships, the short answer is: I'm not. [7:13pm] JadeLithaen: It's still perfectly allowable to have a higher-tech nation build a lower-tech nation's equipment. [7:13pm] Triyun: Who built them and where [7:13pm] Triyun: Cause I couldn’t find a thread [7:15pm] Triyun: also the block 2 has a 120 kilo range best I can find [7:15pm] JadeLithaen: RGM/AGM-84L (Block 2): 278 km (150 nmi) [7:15pm] Triyun: Ok [7:15pm] Triyun: so yur naval forces [7:15pm] Triyun: then [7:16pm] JadeLithaen: First launch is at TASM range [7:16pm] Triyun: I assume you’ll show me the links where you bought the block 2 and the ships right? [7:16pm] JadeLithaen: second launch is at Harpoon range, and the Harpoons are being fired by my Skjolds. [7:16pm] Triyun: How did Skojds get across the Atlantic [7:17pm] JadeLithaen: Quickly. [7:17pm] Triyun: Yeah [7:17pm] Triyun: but they run out of gas [7:17pm] JadeLithaen: Fleet oilers. [7:17pm] Triyun: after 800 nmi [7:17pm] Triyun: Problem there [7:18pm] Triyun: if Eva’s stuff can be intercepted, in the med, surely you see the issue with your stuff moving unopposed [7:18pm] Triyun: but seriously [7:18pm] JadeLithaen: Dude [7:18pm] Triyun: can you answer about the [7:18pm] JadeLithaen: my !@#$ had been across the Atlantic for a WEEK before the balloon went up [7:18pm] Triyun: Balloon? [7:18pm] Triyun: additionally [7:18pm] JadeLithaen: Exercise Daybreak thread. [7:18pm] Triyun: link [7:19pm] Triyun: and links to your weapons purchases [7:19pm] JadeLithaen: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/124356-exercise-daybreak/ [7:20pm] JadeLithaen: To the second: Negative, Ghost Rider. The Pattern is full. [7:20pm] JadeLithaen: You're literally arguing down the least of the hell being launched your way. [7:20pm] Triyun: Mara you had no reason to attack me in the first place so humor me [7:20pm] Triyun: [7:20pm] JadeLithaen: Me? Were I you, I'd be using my OOC-fu to pare down Lyn, or FHIC, or someone else. [7:20pm] Triyun: I’m going to talk to Lyn later [7:20pm] Triyun: please answer the questions [7:21pm] JadeLithaen: I think I'll return to sleep. [7:21pm] JadeLithaen: My throat's killing me. [7:21pm] JadeLithaen: Ta-ta. [7:21pm] Triyun: Alright, well I hope you feel better I feel sorry for Ty [7:21pm] Triyun: that we can’t be civilized but ok [7:21pm] JadeLithaen: Being as civilized as I can be right now, and thank you[/spoiler] Edited October 7, 2014 by Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Lithaen Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Gotta love someone who continues to hound a point while the other party is weakened and sick with a headache fit to split the world. Really shows your strength of character... Someone PM me if Triyun and Friends do anything of importance. I'm going to take one of the big-assed ibuprofen tabs that the good LT gave me this morning at medical and pass out. Peace, y'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Here's how you handle it with big boy pants, "I'm not feeling too hot right now, would you mind if I send it to you in the morning?" "Sure." OR "I think it may be in this thread but I'm not feeling to great do you mind taking another look there?" "Sure" Not be cagey about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Lyn and Mara if you could both query me on IRC, your posts seem to be using stuff that either have movements that make no sense or are using stuff that does not exist in 2014 military tech. If we can get this ironed out I can post up soon. If you've grievances with my post, give the list to Ty. If he feels that what I wrote is somehow not acceptable, I'll clarify on those after he tells me via PM. I hope that's acceptable to you. In the meantime, I'll be helping my mother recuperate from her hurt leg, which I [i]really[/i] hope isn't broken or anything. Might not get the chance to get on IRC, hence PMs and what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 If you've grievances with my post, give the list to Ty. If he feels that what I wrote is somehow not acceptable, I'll clarify on those after he tells me via PM. I hope that's acceptable to you. In the meantime, I'll be helping my mother recuperate from her hurt leg, which I really hope isn't broken or anything. Might not get the chance to get on IRC, hence PMs and what. You do know ty is not your god damn nanny right? You and whoever should be speaking privately to sort these problems out and involving Ty as a last resort. Ty, I'm going to remind you that in the cnrp2 rules there is a 50/50 dice roll option for resolving disputes. Given the "classy" behavior in this war I'd use it heavily as there is no need for you to spend half your awake hours trying to unravel these bickering matches over technical details, nitpicky complaints, and technogibberish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) If you've grievances with my post, give the list to Ty. If he feels that what I wrote is somehow not acceptable, I'll clarify on those after he tells me via PM. I hope that's acceptable to you. In the meantime, I'll be helping my mother recuperate from her hurt leg, which I really hope isn't broken or anything. Might not get the chance to get on IRC, hence PMs and what. You can be a little less German and a little more polite brau. Nevertheless I'm sorry to hear that. The issues I have are a couple fold, first you don't name missiles yet you RP missiles with capabilities that don't exist IRL, which I feel violates the customs rule applied to others including myself earlier. For example: 600 missiles with mixed Harm/optical and mixed Radar/optical guidance <--- you refer to anti-ship missiles with these capabilities, I'm unaware of any built with dual guidance like this. The rest were fit with either HARM sensors or radar-guidance, and in both cases with specialised cameras that would recognise outlines of enemy vessels. Referring to Tomahawks and Harpoons, neither of which exists for these systems, especially combined with other guidance (please remember space is very packed n a tomahawk). Lastly you hit all my space assets? How? There are zero IRL ASATs for GEO or MEO. There is debate in the Western IC of what could be a early test of one in 2013 by the Chinese but, its certainly in the very early stages, we've not seen a single ASAT test against GEO or MEO and LEO ones are only direct ascent so all my satellites have to pass over your territory there to hit them, which would beg the question again "From Tikal itself, missiles to destroy all known British satellite-assets" saying all known, and from Tikal itself, how exactly would you do this? Edited October 8, 2014 by Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Lithaen Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 As a note I would also like to know when Mara switched her force lay out to have Super Hornets, because it seems like she altered her planes from her factbook and never RPed it. Her factbook included much more capable F-22s, but F-22s can't be carrier launched. Her math in her factbook also does not seem to add up to that she can field the air force she has 400 F-22s, 60 B-52s and 20 B-2s with that counting as 840 aircraft, when she lists her troops levels as max 10x her civilians, the maximum she's afforded in this RP. I do apologize for the delay, I wanted to do IRC because it is the fastest, but apparently one cannot simply talk :P As a note, you're looking at my Air Force's equipment. There's nothing saying I can't have a pile of Naval aircraft for use in my... Navy. Now, thing is, I'd go back in and put in my F-18s under my naval equipment, but if I edit it, you'll whine some more about me editing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 The problem is that your math under force limits to do that is illegal. Navy aircraft come out of your aircraft count last I checked or else I have about 900 more super hornets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Lithaen Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Well, the fantastic thing is: PresidentDavid owns our Air Force. Edited October 8, 2014 by Mara Lithaen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Numbers don't work still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Lithaen Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 You'll find they do, Triyun. Oh, how you'll find they do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 let's just start calling this game OOC whine fest, since there's obviously no desire by to fight an IC war by one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 let's just start calling this game OOC whine fest, since there's obviously no desire by to fight an IC war by one side. Yes, truly wanting the rules you yourselves put in enforced is not wanting to fight an ic fight, so is not posting because you don't have all the information needed to respond because the original posts were vague as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 Yes, truly wanting the rules you yourselves put in enforced is not wanting to fight an ic fight, so is not posting because you don't have all the information needed to respond because the original posts were vague as $%&@. maybe you should have RP'd out better surveillance, and not relied on spy rolls to try to win :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 let's just start calling this game OOC whine fest, since there's obviously no desire by to fight an IC war by one side. I have only today received the necessary information to acually respond. I'd think a person that has won all but one of their wars by kicking the opponent from the RP shouldn't talk about not wanting to fight IC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted October 8, 2014 Report Share Posted October 8, 2014 maybe you should have RP'd out better surveillance, and not relied on spy rolls to try to win :) And ridiculous attempts at scoring points like these are why I have you on ignore :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 You'll find they do, Triyun. Oh, how you'll find they do... Would you care to explain because it's arithmetic. I can add and subtract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysergide Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Lets take this to the level of quantum physics. Using only newton and kelvin thermostatic ranges, and only respond in binary with hex key encryption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Lets take this to the level of quantum physics. Using only newton and kelvin thermostatic ranges, and only respond in binary with hex key encryption. Answer = my balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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