Neo Uruk Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 [OOC Note to Mods: this is not based on the recent incident and I'd like people to keep that in mind. However, that does play a part in this. I've thought about making this thread for quite some time, and now it would appear that support for the actions outlined in this thread have been gaining traction for quite a while]It would appear that we have a roach to be squashed. Rotavele has for a long while been one of the more disdained members of this community, always managing to turn routine threads into threads about himself (Yes, I know my detractors will fill this thread with "but you do too!" And to them, I say, shut the fuck up and make your own thread.) He has said many a dumb thing, lied about many incidents, and went as far as to "quit" several times for attention.Here are some pros of Rotavele: Warm body to keep in an alliance.Here are some cons of Rotavele: Compulsive liar Routine rogue Creates the wrong kind of drama Has used IRC [OOC(?): and proxies on IRC] to harass peopleNow, this individual clearly deserves some form of punishment. Unfortunately, he's being protected by Sparta at this moment, but that could change. He's an alliance hopper, after all. Now, should Sparta choose to rescind protection -- or, more likely, he decides to leave and rogue somebody, I propose that we (the community at large) assign several nuke turrets to keep Rotavele's infrastructure bills, tech income, and land mass at a fairly manageable size -- that is to say, minimal. At any point, Rotavele can tap out and resign from leadership [ooc: reroll].Any alliance found to be aiding or protecting Rotavele should be ostracized and possibly crushed into oblivion as well, but that's up for debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Why do the worst advocates always make the threads first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geerland Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) +1 to this idea. Edited August 4, 2014 by Geerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Nova Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Why do the worst advocates always make the threads first? Not a clue, but that's besides the point. Rota needs to be rolled out of the game, no questions asked for the way he acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caladin Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Why do the worst advocates always make the threads first? Â This. Really, Neo, you should have let some of the other players who were planning to make this thread make it. Â Anyway, I have to say that I'm in full support of such a return of PZI or even EZI. Edited August 4, 2014 by Caladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Why do the worst advocates always make the threads first?I dunno, I wasn't even in a speech-making mood. I just know it's an issue that needs to be dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzos Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 What's the point of making him reroll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I support what has been said here, but like other people here, I also agree that it might have been worth letting a more appropriate ruler to have prepared and made this topic, no offence Rey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Moon Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 As a friend of Tito's in a number of other realms for years, I'm embarrassed that I continue to be allied to such filth.  Rota has crossed lines before, but this was entirely different. Given a change of its' AA, I would pay good money to see Rota run into the ground. It can post all it wants, but it shouldn't be able to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 As a friend of Tito's in a number of other realms for years, I'm embarrassed that I continue to be allied to such filth.  Rota has crossed lines before, but this was entirely different. Given a change of its' AA, I would pay good money to see Rota run into the ground. It can post all it wants, but it shouldn't be able to play. Could always set up a fund similar to the one which had been put down for hitting ReyRey some time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 What's the point of making him reroll?1) Admission that he should probably give up his current role in leadership [OOC: and he'll likely lay low if he comes back instead of stirring the pot]2)National Wonders: View Improvements and Wonders Disaster Relief Agency, Interstate System, Manhattan Project, Social Security System, Stock Market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapmanej Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Â PZI always should have been determined on a case by case basis. Â To use it willy nilly was wrong, but to ban it outright was also wrong. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yerushalayim Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 As a note, Rotavele is no longer under Sparta's protection. We are less than pleased with his behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facade Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I am in support of this movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 As a note, Rotavele is no longer under Sparta's protection. We are less than pleased with his behavior. Well done Sparta, appropriate action taken, and a speedy resolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) As a note, Rotavele is no longer under Sparta's protection. We are less than pleased with his behavior.I know that this wasn't because of my thread but I'd like to extend a note of appreciation to Sparta for doing the right thing. Repeat offenders deserve no saviors.Also, for anyone who may be interested to know the metrics involved:You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of Starlight. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to gather the following information about the nation:Last Tax Collection: 7/31/2014 10:23:52 AMLast Bill Payment: 8/4/2014 1:35:18 AMDesired Religion: ShintoDesired Government: DemocracyThreat Level: LowTax Rate: 28%Number of Spies: 95Last Nuke Purchase: 8/3/2014 3:24:26 AMLast Wonder Purchase: NoneTotal Money: $9,934,255Technology: 100.08 LevelsLast Bill Payment: 8/4/2014 1:35:18 AMTrade Partners: Orentor, The Empire Of AVB, UlcanSecret Aid Sent To: NoneMilitary XP Ratings: Army XP: 107, Navy XP: 9, Air Force XP: 463, Intelligence XP: 12Assigned Generals: NoneTotal Aircraft: 0Aircraft Fighter Strength: 0Aircraft Bomber Strength: 0Navy Purchases Today: 0Navy Vessels:Corvettes: 0Landing Ships: 0Battleships: 0Cruisers: 0Frigates: 0Destroyers: 0Submarines: 0Aircraft Carriers: 0Your spies returned home unharmed and unidentified. Edited August 4, 2014 by Neo Uruk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander shepard Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I support a petition to EZI rey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I don't normally involve myself in stuff like this, I;d rather use the wonderful ignore feature built into the communication apparatus here on BoB, however given certain circumstances, I think I can pledge 18 million in III Percent assets to the extermination of this viral host infecting the populous. I'm not hard to find get a hold of me in game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauty Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) God damnit why did I go to PM. The guy doesn't have nukes or an SDI or a warchest.....   You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of neo uruk. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to gather the following information about the nation: Last Tax Collection: 7/29/2014 12:02:14 AM Last Bill Payment: 8/4/2014 10:57:04 AM Desired Religion: Voodoo Desired Government: Republic Threat Level: Low Tax Rate: 30% Number of Spies: 160 Last Nuke Purchase: None Last Wonder Purchase: 5/13/2014 Total Money: $1,631,575 Technology: 110.80 Levels Last Bill Payment: 8/4/2014 10:57:04 AM Trade Partners: Darkon, GremlinsLand, Fredrikstan, Artic Cheese World Secret Aid Sent To: None Military XP Ratings: Army XP: 121, Navy XP: 0, Air Force XP: 358, Intelligence XP: 18 Assigned Generals: None Total Aircraft: 55 Aircraft Fighter Strength: 467 Aircraft Bomber Strength: 16 Navy Purchases Today: 0 Navy Vessels: Corvettes: 0 Landing Ships: 0 Battleships: 0 Cruisers: 0 Frigates: 0 Destroyers: 0 Submarines: 0 Aircraft Carriers: 0 Although the mission was a success your spies were caught, 20 spies were killed, and your identity has been publicly revealed.  Edited August 4, 2014 by Rotavele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Moon Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 As a note, Rotavele is no longer under Sparta's protection. We are less than pleased with his behavior. Â Classy move here guys. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 God damnit why did I go to PM.Gee, I wonder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I am in favor. Rescind the pact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfiles Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) personally.. I think that IC harassment of any kind should be against the rules if it's not already.. and forcing pzi, and someone to reroll because you don't like how they play the game or them as a person is beyond excessive..I think there needs to be a line drawn here.. and realize that not everyone that plays this game is completely 100% mentally stable here.. and they may find what they do fun for them.. while others find it annoying.. you have to stop living inside a square box of just your own little world, and look for other reasons for why people do things..edit to add: how many players that play this game take some form of mood stabilization drugs.. and how many that should, don't because they cant afford it.. Edited August 4, 2014 by maxfiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finster Baby Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I support Rotavele's removal from the community, by whatever means possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 personally.. I think that IC harassment of any kind should be against the rules if it's not already.. and forcing pzi, and someone to reroll because you don't like how they play the game or them as a person is beyond excessive..I think there needs to be a line drawn here.. and realize that not everyone that plays this game is completely 100% mentally stable here.. and they may find what they do fun for them.. while others find it annoying.. you have to stop living inside a square box of just your own little world, and look for other reasons for why people do things..[OOC: as someone who is in school to be a counselor, I'd very much like you to not use the mental stability argument. If it is so bad that you can't have a regular conversation without resorting to...everything Rota does, you should seek help.]No. This is a repeat offender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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