Spaarlaamp Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Congrats FOK! Now you're realy to shine again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis the II Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Congrats Fok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoFreaky Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Congrats FOKkers No idea who would ever vote for Bomba though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1333886070' post='2949932'] Congrats FOKkers No idea who would ever vote for Bomba though [/quote] No one did. That's the joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmbroseIV Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='CheeKy' timestamp='1333810448' post='2949571'] Are you serious or is this an attempt to troll? Anyway congrats. [/quote] If I was trolling, I'd follow your example 'n do whatever I could to spend the next 6 months banned from FOK's public channel ... and bitter isn't a look that suits you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 No Tromp in gov? I'm disappointed and don't really know most of those elected, so I'll just say good luck to those in gov who want to lead FOK beyond its current position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Nice! also sup Timmehhh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1333896699' post='2949980'] No Tromp in gov? I'm disappointed and don't really know most of those elected, so I'll just say good luck to those in gov who want to lead FOK beyond its current position. [/quote] He went inactive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacapo Saladin Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1333915973' post='2950071'] He went inactive. [/quote] + he is completely incapable of doing the job, is a terrible ally when he has power, and is an overall detriment to FOK foreign policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemMo Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Congrats FOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Waldie Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1333886070' post='2949932'] Congrats FOKkers No idea who would ever vote for Bomba though [/quote] I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Congrats to Timmehhh on the two gov slots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineas Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1333928627' post='2950131'] + he is completely incapable of doing the job, is a terrible ally when he has power, and is an overall detriment to FOK foreign policy. [/quote] Congrats on the new gov, FOK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1333928627' post='2950131'] + he is completely incapable of doing the job, is a terrible ally when he has power, and is an overall detriment to FOK foreign policy. [/quote] Tromp has always been a good friend of R&R. If you consider this a detriment to FOK! foreign policy due to last war events, so be it. Anyways, we have a very good relationship with Bomba too, so I'm looking forward to work with him and the rest of FOK! gov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeKy Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1333928627' post='2950131'] + he is completely incapable of doing the job, is a terrible ally when he has power, and is an overall detriment to FOK foreign policy. [/quote] +1 I am glad Tromp went inactive. I actually didn't expect him to be gov for another term anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1333928627' post='2950131'] + he is completely incapable of doing the job, is a terrible ally when he has power, and is an overall detriment to FOK foreign policy. [/quote] You only say that because he didn't think FOK's FA policy should revolve around wiping Doom House's ass whenever it gets dirty. There is no glory for FOK in their current position of being the meat shield in Pandora's Box, while having no power other than have their strings pulled by alliances like MK (with MK not even being a member of PB), thanks to MK having it under their control for the most part due to the heavy Doom House influence over PB. Anyone in PB who aren't in DH should either demand DH gets out or leave themselves, as its obvious DH will look out for DH over those in PB. There is as much glory in FOK's current position as that of a puppet with someone else holding the strings. The puppet doesn't deserve any recognition for what its done, as its the one pulling the strings who is making the puppet do it. If the puppet is durable, then the puppet master doesn't need to worry about it breaking as easily, but its still only moving due to the will of someone else. Anyone in FOK who wants to cut the strings attached to them which are allowing others to control their movements, I think would be a great asset to FOK if they are allowed into gov and to do whats needed. Edited April 10, 2012 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriekfreak Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Methrage should learn dutch and rule FOK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 He obviously knows everything about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Xander the Only Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 What an asset he would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1334076775' post='2950724'] He obviously knows everything about them [/quote] I know they are dutch and are an alliance of fun, good mannered people from back when I fought them in the BiPolar War. However I don't claim to know everything about them, but seeing how they are currently politically situated doesn't require vast knowledge of their inner workings. I would like them see them leave PB, as I hold them in higher regard than the type of alliance I would consider to be doing whats natural for themselves by being in a bloc who is the puppet of another bloc. MK does not consider members of PB to be their equals and members of DH who are in PB don't consider their allies in PB to be allies on the same level as those who are in DH. Edited April 10, 2012 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1333928627' post='2950131'] + he is completely incapable of doing the job, is a terrible ally when he has power, and is an overall detriment to FOK foreign policy. [/quote] While the validity of such a statement may or may not be true, and it's obvious you're speaking from some unfortunate personal experience, I find airing such an opinion about your treaty partner's ex gov pretty... unusual. I like Tromp just fine, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombaAriba Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334077173' post='2950726'] I know they are dutch and are an alliance of fun, good mannered people from back when I fought them in the BiPolar War. However I don't claim to know everything about them, but seeing how they are currently politically situated doesn't require vast knowledge of their inner workings. I would like them see them leave PB, as I hold them in higher regard than the type of alliance I would consider to be doing whats natural for themselves by being in a bloc who is the puppet of another bloc. MK does not consider members of PB to be their equals and members of DH who are in PB don't consider their allies in PB to be allies on the same level as those who are in DH. [/quote] Just leaving the bloc won't help anybody.. We would only forfeit our friends. The might and power of MK is generally overrated. I negotiate with PB-leaders, not with MK. Nobody of you actually knows how our innerpolitics work. And for the Non Grata guy, why doesn't NG leave? Leaving PB would only make my ship vulnerable for alliances that are waiting to destroy us or the whole of PB. We're seen as the 'weak'side of PB. We are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 (edited) [quote name='BombaAriba' timestamp='1334077843' post='2950733'] Just leaving the bloc won't help anybody.. We would only forfeit our friends. The might and power of MK is generally overrated. I negotiate with PB-leaders, not with MK. Nobody of you actually knows how our innerpolitics work. And for the Non Grata guy, why doesn't NG leave? Leaving PB would only make my ship vulnerable for alliances that are waiting to destroy us or the whole of PB. We're seen as the 'weak'side of PB. We are not. [/quote] When whatever Umbrella and GOONS is pushing within PB is what MK would be pushing if they were there, then their influence is there even if you never deal with MK directly. What I would do is not leave PB without a backup plan, such as first plan for the formation of a bloc you can put together right away when you leave or before you leave which doesn't have members with a conflict of interest. Most blocs these days don't allow members to have membership in other blocs as well, because that is always sure to cause a conflict of interest for those who are in multiple blocs. If one of FOK's allies were hit by an MK led coalition, you would see Doom House side with Doom House without needing to think about it. They don't hold any real loyalty to PB alliances beyond how much they can make you guys bend to go along with the will of Doom House when the time comes for you guys to make a decision on whether to support them or your other allies. Edited April 10, 2012 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334078252' post='2950734'] When whatever Umbrella and GOONS is pushing within PB is what MK would be pushing if they were there, then their influence is there even if you never deal with MK directly. What I would do is not leave PB without a backup plan, such as first plan for the formation of a bloc you can put together right away when you leave or before you leave which doesn't have members with a conflict of interest. Most blocs these days don't allow members to have membership in other blocs as well, because that is always sure to cause a conflict of interest for those who are in multiple blocs. If one of FOK's allies were hit by an MK led coalition, you would see Doom House side with Doom House without needing to think about it. They don't hold any real loyalty to PB alliances beyond how much they can make you guys bend to go along with the will of Doom House when the time comes for you guys to make a decision on whether to support them or your other allies. [/quote] Personally, I think you just like typing the words 'Doom House'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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