mrwuss Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Does SF like GOONS. What kind of haircut does SF have? Does SF bleed black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ozujsko Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 How does it feel knowing that SpacingOutMan is the only respectable/competent leader among you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Hypothetical: TOP hits Polar tonight, allies get called in, no hope for settlement. Which side do the following alliances fight on? Acceptable answers are Polar's side, TOP's side, Cherry picking on one side, not fighting, or fighting on both sides. Explain each answer. Fark GOD MK NoR NG Umb NPO VE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Jaxon Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1312514748' post='2772353'] Hypothetical: TOP hits Polar tonight, allies get called in, no hope for settlement. Which side do the following alliances fight on? Acceptable answers are Polar's side, TOP's side, Cherry picking on one side, not fighting, or fighting on both sides. Explain each answer. Fark GOD MK NoR NG Umb NPO VE [/quote] Why would you ask them about what choice your alliance would make? That actually seems like it'd be as much of a variable to them as anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1312513994' post='2772344'] Neither GOD nor Fark needs our blessing to post whatever the hell they want on the OWF, just like we don't ask for thir blessing when we want to post something. We don't care for NoR one way or the other so we could live with or without that topic.[/quote] So their acceptance of spying is alright by you. Good to know. [quote]This topic was made because we felt some things needed to be adressed for all to see, for the rest we're keeping things of the OWF. [/quote] And how has it gone so far? Happy with all the pointing and laughing? Or would you rather shout [i]Obliviate[/i] and pretend this never happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Jaxon Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1312515248' post='2772359'] And how has it gone so far? Happy with all the pointing and laughing? Or would you rather shout [i]Obliviate[/i] and pretend this never happened? [/quote] If this thread turns into another slew of attempts of Harry Potter puns, I'll have a bone to pick with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoFreaky Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1312515248' post='2772359'] So their acceptance of spying is alright by you. Good to know. And how has it gone so far? Happy with all the pointing and laughing? Or would you rather shout [i]Obliviate[/i] and pretend this never happened? [/quote] Well glad i could help you then. So far it's going about as expected, some people ask actual questions, some try to change it into throwing around mud and others will never agree with us or the other way around. See this topic provides in every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoFreaky Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1312514748' post='2772353'] Hypothetical: TOP hits Polar tonight, allies get called in, no hope for settlement. Which side do the following alliances fight on? Acceptable answers are Polar's side, TOP's side, Cherry picking on one side, not fighting, or fighting on both sides. Explain each answer. Fark GOD MK NoR NG Umb NPO VE [/quote] I can only hope everyone decides to sit out and let them settle it 1 on 1 once and for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattski133 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1312495222' post='2772104'] GOONS We used to really dislike GOONS, they're way of raiding was opposed to everything we stand for. We're not against raiding itself but the drama surrounding it and the way how some raids on R&R where resolved really turned us off on them. I think someone told me they made some changes to their raid policies, but whatever it was it shows, it has taken a while but these days many of us look differently at them. Personally i'm starting to like them more and more. [/quote] On a scale of 10 to 10, how much influence did I have on this? Also, R&R is solid. Just from reading, I think this Q&A should have been renamed "tell us why Xiphosis irritates you and also why you think CSN sucks". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis the II Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1312516271' post='2772376'] I can only hope everyone decides to sit out and let them settle it 1 on 1 once and for all. [/quote] If this happens, it would be one of the most interesting moments of Planet Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoFreaky Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1312516414' post='2772379'] On a scale of 10 to 10, how much influence did I have on this? Also, R&R is solid. Just from reading, I think this Q&A should have been renamed "tell us why Xiphosis irritates you and also why you think CSN sucks". [/quote] Haha, to be completely honest, more then you would expect perhaps At least for me personally. When you first joined GOONS i was like WTF?!?!?!?!? It sparked just enough interest in me to start looking at them more open minded, at first the raiding issues where still irritating, but those started to disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1312500935' post='2772159'] [b]On a scale of one to ten, how angry were you with Sparta after their refusal to hit GATO after Athens requested them not to? And Why?[/b] 9,000. And: when an MDP partner that's heavily engaged already gets hit by an alliance of GATO's size [no points for skill, but still] I generally expect that the treaty would be honored, and not cast aside because Athens was considered a higher ally than RIA. That's just not cool. [/quote] Just to set the record straight publically to anyone who actually cares what the GOD-Sparta dynamic was like during our decision making process, here are some logs (below). These are not meant to paint anyone in any negative or positive light, this is just what happened. I think you will all agree that the factors that went into our choices were a little bit more grey-area than a non chaining clause or even just Athen's requests, and I think you all will also agree that when it comes to a bloc mate, Xiph will do anything and everything he can for them. That being said, I still regret how it was handled and since then we have made it a top priority to rectify our mistakes with RIA. So...anyway...here you go. <Xiphosis[GOD]>I don't play that <Xiphosis[GOD]>Maybe you should ask Athens why they are <Hyp>perhaps if you gave us just a tiny bit of warning before going in we could have had this mess planned around all of our interests before kicking it off <Xiphosis[GOD]>tbh <Xiphosis[GOD]>true of VE too <Hyp>i understand wanting to back RIA immediately, but tactically there are better ways of doing it <Xiphosis[GOD]>aren't you guys allied as well? <Xiphosis[GOD]>oh you mean GATO <Xiphosis[GOD]>not the whole thing <Hyp>ya <Hyp>the whole thing is another !@#$storm all together <Hyp>I am talking about how the GATO front is being handled tactically <Xiphosis[GOD]>I'm aware <Xiphosis[GOD]>I wanted to punch GATO in the face as they blitzed and I was willing to overextend to do it <Hyp>if this was brought up before going in, Athens could have expressed their request before hand <Hyp>and we could have planned accordinly <Xiphosis[GOD]>they could've <Xiphosis[GOD]>in all honesty? <Xiphosis[GOD]>Would've ignored it even still <Xiphosis[GOD]>an ally of an ally has no say in whether I defend my own allies <Hyp>i'm not talking about athens getting you to stop going in <Hyp>you, of course, SHOULD be defending RIA <Hyp>what I am talking about <Xiphosis[GOD]>[so should you] <Hyp>is planning the support before hand <Xiphosis[GOD]> <Hyp>rather than scrambling for it now <Xiphosis[GOD]>couldn't resist, go on. <Hyp>if we knew what you were doing before hand <Hyp>we could have done this without having Sparta become the ace in the hole in the first place <Hyp>we could have prepped Argent <Hyp>we could have prepped IRON <Hyp>that's all I'm saying <Hyp>is that communication was lacking in this isntance <Xiphosis[GOD]>IRON lol <Xiphosis[GOD]>I wish you could see my face right now <Hyp>and we should have had a meeting on the best way to handle this tactically to get AROUND Athen's dissatisfaction <Xiphosis[GOD]>you're not hearing me at all <Hyp>I don't think I am <Xiphosis[GOD]>Athen's dissatisfaction should not overrule treaty obligations <Xiphosis[GOD]>that is my issue. <Hyp>and what of our treaty obligations to Brig <Xiphosis[GOD]>When it's our basic security on the line I shouldn't have my allies ducking out because one of their other allies is dissatisfied with them supporting me. <Xiphosis[GOD]>Brig was not attacked <Hyp>and our plan on taking down NPO with MK/umb with sparta as the chain <Xiphosis[GOD]>they attacked <Xiphosis[GOD]>RIA /was/ attacked <Xiphosis[GOD]>Oh I know <Xiphosis[GOD]>I don't want you on GATO at this point <Xiphosis[GOD]>I'm just saying <Xiphosis[GOD]>that was !@#$%^&* it needs to never happen again <Xiphosis[GOD]>You have every right to say no to me <Xiphosis[GOD]>GATO didn't attack me <Xiphosis[GOD]>I hit them <Xiphosis[GOD]>but not RIA <Xiphosis[GOD]>I mean it's pretty much flat out breaking the tie and spitting in their face on top of it <Xiphosis[GOD]>and if you'd do that for Athens <Xiphosis[GOD]>then you are playing favorites. Pure and simple. <Hyp>I guess us exhausting ourselves trying to find you back up doens't count for anything eh? <Xiphosis[GOD]>I gave you credit for that <Xiphosis[GOD]>but no <Xiphosis[GOD]>finding surrogates doesn't make up for not honoring a treaty <Xiphosis[GOD]>it helps but it's really not the same <Xiphosis[GOD]>I need to know you have my back - not just when Athens is okay with you having my back <Xiphosis[GOD]>if that makes more sense <Hyp>You know we always have your back <Hyp>I came to you last night, remember <Xiphosis[GOD]> <Hyp>however <Hyp>sometimes <Xiphosis[GOD]>I knew* <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Xiphosis[GOD]>you came after <Xiphosis[GOD]>After <Xiphosis[GOD]>I got Valek on the horn <Hyp>ya <Hyp>he called me <Xiphosis[GOD]>and tried my damnedest <Xiphosis[GOD]>to find anyone from Sparta <Hyp>because nobody ever actually talked to me <Xiphosis[GOD]>I know <Xiphosis[GOD]>I had to come to y'all <Xiphosis[GOD]> <Hyp>i never got a query or notification or anything :-/ <Xiphosis[GOD]>You'll just have to accept a sorry for that <Xiphosis[GOD]>and realize I had to get my guys in order <Xiphosis[GOD]>and out <Xiphosis[GOD]>in less than 30m <Xiphosis[GOD]>and the DoW up <Xiphosis[GOD]>and a million other things <Hyp>I understand <Hyp>I'm there in that position right now <Xiphosis[GOD]>UPN was due to nuke us and all the anarchies meant no one can declare offensively <Xiphosis[GOD]>which is a big issue <Hyp>however, what you have to understand is that having your back doesn't mean we can just !@#$ on all of our other allies <Hyp>having your back is doing everything we CAN do for you <Hyp>which we have been doing <Hyp>trust me <Hyp>I would love nothing more than to stomp GATO <Xiphosis[GOD]>... <Hyp>but we cannot and will not !@#$ on Athens when there are other options <Xiphosis[GOD]>if your other allies <Xiphosis[GOD]>sanction their allies <Xiphosis[GOD]>to hit mine <Xiphosis[GOD]>not to hit mine <Xiphosis[GOD]>to hit ME <Xiphosis[GOD]>then yeah <Xiphosis[GOD]>you'll need to !@#$ on them <Xiphosis[GOD]>if I okay VE to hit Sparta <Xiphosis[GOD]>you'd !@#$ on me <Xiphosis[GOD]>a million times over <Xiphosis[GOD]>No? <Hyp>I don't think Athens gave GATO permission to do anything <Hyp>because they would not have condoned it. <Xiphosis[GOD]>oh? <Xiphosis[GOD]>then why is Athens still allied to GATO? <Xiphosis[GOD]>and still looking out for them? <Xiphosis[GOD]>Asking Sparta to stay off them is basically condoning it/helping <Hyp>because they aren't going to cancel after one decision. <Xiphosis[GOD]>That's !@#$@#$ what it is. Definition. <Hyp>Xiph <Hyp>is RIA had no available back up and this was a beat down <Xiphosis[GOD]>Tell me I'm wrong. <Hyp>I would understand your position <Xiphosis[GOD]>And then explain in what ways I'm wrong. <Xiphosis[GOD]>No <Xiphosis[GOD]>$%&@ that <Xiphosis[GOD]>There's no context <Xiphosis[GOD]>to treaties <Hyp>listen <Xiphosis[GOD]>It's not "We will defend RIA IF AND ONLY IF THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE TO DEFEND THEM" <Xiphosis[GOD]>That's not what the damn thing says <Xiphosis[GOD]>does it? <Hyp>will you just listen for one second <Xiphosis[GOD]>yes <Hyp>this is coalition warfare. In coalition warfare, you don't $%&@ over your own coalition and hit their allies when there are equal options available in said coalition. Tactically, Sparta's intervention on GATO was not the only option. Therefor, we were not going to $%&@ over Athens when there were non-connected resources available to help RIA. Would we defend them if we were a non-connected resource? $%&@ yes we would. Will we !@#$ on our allies when it is not absolutely necessary? no, we will not. <Xiphosis[GOD]>? <Hyp>you don't see in any coalition war everyone declaring based on every single defense clause that pops up <Hyp>because in most cases <Xiphosis[GOD]>You avoided the question. <Hyp>we already have plans for those defense clauses <Xiphosis[GOD]>and also? <Xiphosis[GOD]>In most cases< Xiphosis[GOD]>PEOPLE DON'T ASK <Xiphosis[GOD]>in this case, we did <Xiphosis[GOD]>and you said no. <Xiphosis[GOD]>that is the issue <Hyp>We didn't say no to helping you. We said no to declaring on GATO. <Hyp>there is a big difference <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Xiphosis[GOD]>you said no to helping RIA <Xiphosis[GOD]>RIA was declared on by GATO <Xiphosis[GOD]>I asked you on to GATO specifically to defend them <Xiphosis[GOD]>GOD can't do it <Xiphosis[GOD]>15-30 members v. 400 is not a counter. <Xiphosis[GOD]>It'll make them stumble. A bit. <Hyp>]of course GOD can't do it. That is why I was trying to find people who can without !@#$ting on our other allies. <Hyp>this is what happens in coalitions dude <Xiphosis[GOD]>god damn you're not getting it <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Xiphosis[GOD]>I don't care <Xiphosis[GOD]>You're my ally /first/ <Xiphosis[GOD]>a member of this damn coalition /second/ <Xiphosis[GOD]>or is that not the case? <Xiphosis[GOD]>seriously wtf <Xiphosis[GOD]>our coalition has TOP in it for $%&@s sake <Xiphosis[GOD]>they should not matter more to you than me <Xiphosis[GOD]>or we've got !@#$@#$ giant issues <Hyp>dude...why even ask that <Xiphosis[GOD]>it's an example <Xiphosis[GOD]>this coalition is a motley of my idols interspersed with some of our friends <Xiphosis[GOD]>what their perogative is will /not/ always align with what's in the best interests of GOD or RIA or Sparta <Xiphosis[GOD]>that is something WE have to be concerned with <Xiphosis[GOD]>not what the coalition wants <Xiphosis[GOD]>the simple fact is <Hyp>what is in the bests interests of Sparta is winning this war and helping our friends without !@#$ting on any of our other friends <Xiphosis[GOD]>we're running out of allies <Xiphosis[GOD]>I didn't ask Sparta out of the random <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Xiphosis[GOD]>2 of my allies got pulled in due to NpO treaties, most of maroon is incompetent <Xiphosis[GOD]>And Sparta/FARK have basically cited anything <Xiphosis[GOD]>to not help <Hyp>which is why I talked to imp <Xiphosis[GOD]>it's goddamn frustrating <Hyp>and lined up help <Xiphosis[GOD]>$%&@ IMP! <Xiphosis[GOD]>god <Xiphosis[GOD]>good lord. <Xiphosis[GOD]>I need allies. <Xiphosis[GOD]>Not help. <Xiphosis[GOD]>How does this not make sense to you? <Xiphosis[GOD]>I've fought with help before <Xiphosis[GOD]>It's a nightmare <Xiphosis[GOD]>"help" tried to give NPO white peace <Xiphosis[GOD]>"help" threatened to roll RoK if they imposed reps on IRON <Xiphosis[GOD]>I don't want "help" <Xiphosis[GOD]>I want my friends. <Xiphosis[GOD]>I am very sorry if Athens had a conflict of interest but in all seriousness they should've cleared it up before the war, it is not Sparta or GOD or RIA's problem. <Xiphosis[GOD]>We cannot be constrained because some of our allies have allies themselves fighting on the other side <Hyp>actually, what Athens wants is very much our problem. You may not be allied to them, but we are. <Xiphosis[GOD]>yes <Xiphosis[GOD]>you are <Xiphosis[GOD]>but Athens <Xiphosis[GOD]>was not hit <Xiphosis[GOD]>by a 400-member alliance <Xiphosis[GOD]>RIA was <Xiphosis[GOD]>another one of your allies <Hyp>the fact of the matter is <Xiphosis[GOD]>that VERY MUCH SO IS YOUR PROBLEM. <Hyp>when we asked athens not to hit RoK <Hyp>they said ok <Hyp>why the $%&@ would we not do the same <Hyp>for them <Xiphosis[GOD]>because that's offensive <Hyp>they were going to activate <Hyp>a defensive clause <Hyp>with PC <Hyp>what is the difference <Xiphosis[GOD]>there is none <Xiphosis[GOD]>Athens still had every right in the world to do it. Hyp>but they didn't <Hyp>because they respected what we asked for <Hyp>they weren't playing favorites, as you say <Hyp>they were backing US up, as you say <Hyp>we can't ignore that and do the exact opposite <Hyp>when they ask us the same thing <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Xiphosis[GOD]>they were playing favorites actually <Xiphosis[GOD]>also? <Xiphosis[GOD]>I don't think PC asked them to activate <Hyp>the fact of the matter is, they were going to defend PC no matter what. <Hyp>we asked them not to hit RoK <Hyp>they obliged our request <Hyp>not to hit our ally <Xiphosis[GOD]>well <Xiphosis[GOD]>I'm very happy <Xiphosis[GOD]>that semantics <Xiphosis[GOD]>can help you justify this !@#$ <Xiphosis[GOD]>I'll sleep well <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Hyp>it's not semantics <Xiphosis[GOD]>just know I'd !@#$@#$ never pull that nonsense on you <Xiphosis[GOD]>never. ever. <Hyp>it's us doing eXACTLY what Athens did for us <Xiphosis[GOD]>and you'd be just as furious <Xiphosis[GOD]>if I did <Hyp>no, we wouldn't <Hyp>you know why? <Xiphosis[GOD]>yes <Xiphosis[GOD]>you would <Hyp>because we have already had to deal with it this war <Xiphosis[GOD]>If an alliance several hundred members bigger than you <Xiphosis[GOD]>that I was allied to <Xiphosis[GOD]>hit you right now <Xiphosis[GOD]>and I asked our mutual allies <Xiphosis[GOD]>not to defend you <Xiphosis[GOD]>you'd be pissed <Xiphosis[GOD]>and don't even say you wouldn't be <Hyp>pissed? yes. Would we rage about it and yell at you? no. <Hyp>because we understand. <Hyp>we have already been in your position this war <Hyp>but we understand that our allies also have OTHER allies too. <Hyp>and that they, just like us, don't play favorites. <Hyp>why do you think Asg are still our friends even though they are on the other side <Xiphosis[GOD]>lol <Hyp>when we asked them to help us on NPO <Xiphosis[GOD]>You know what? <Xiphosis[GOD]>I don't !@#$@#$ know <Xiphosis[GOD]>I told Tulak months ago <Xiphosis[GOD]>Asg and NoR <Xiphosis[GOD]>were going to defect <Xiphosis[GOD]>and you know what? <Xiphosis[GOD]>He's going to get spammed at him <Xiphosis[GOD]>soon as he returns <Xiphosis[GOD]>I should've bet money <Hyp>it's not defecting <Hyp>it's them defending \m/ and AzN <Xiphosis[GOD]>yes it !@#$@#$ is <Xiphosis[GOD]> <Hyp>no, it's not defecting <Xiphosis[GOD]>ARES/Genesis have standing promises <Xiphosis[GOD]>with me <Hyp> We aren't the !@#$@#$ KGB. People will do whatever the hell they want to do. That isn't "defecting". Good lord you sound like Pacifica. <Xiphosis[GOD]>to defend GOD <Xiphosis[GOD]>on the word <Xiphosis[GOD]>Even if it tears them in half <Xiphosis[GOD]>they will honor it <Xiphosis[GOD]>THAT is loyalty despite being on the other side <Xiphosis[GOD]>What's Asg say? I'm guessing it wasn't that <Xiphosis[GOD]>and bets are, neither was GATO. <Hyp>Asgaard said that they were sorry, but that they could not defend us against NPO due to being dragged into defend NoR, \m/, and AzN <Hyp>we understood that <Hyp>and wished them well <Xiphosis[GOD]>rofl <Xiphosis[GOD]>so they defected. <Hyp>defected from what <Hyp>we are not some all controlling entitity <Xiphosis[GOD]>you. <Hyp>they can do what the $%&@ they want <Xiphosis[GOD]>anytime an MDP partner says they can not defend you <Xiphosis[GOD]>they have defected <Xiphosis[GOD]>spit on your tie <Xiphosis[GOD]>that's what that is. <Hyp>defecting suggests that we are their leader. We are not. We are an equal partnership. <Xiphosis[GOD]>No <Xiphosis[GOD]>It suggests you two comprise an organization <Xiphosis[GOD]>and that they have left <Xiphosis[GOD]>and they did. <Xiphosis[GOD]>You're implying meaning that isn't there. <Hyp>what I do know is this <Hyp>we asked Asg for help on NPO, they informed us they were not able to due to previous committments that would chain to them first <Hyp>we then asked them to not hit any of our allies <Hyp>and they said ok, and that they would not <Hyp>what you don't udnerstand, xiph <Hyp>is that there are ways to support each other <Hyp>other than betraying the trust of other partners <Hyp>and that SOMETIMES, those partners can get put into !@#$%* situations <Hyp>that no matter what they lose <Xiphosis[GOD]>what I'm trying to get you to understand <Hyp>and that in those cases, those partner's allies need to understand their position. <Xiphosis[GOD]>is that while yes <Xiphosis[GOD]>there /are/ other ways <Xiphosis[GOD]>those other ways <Xiphosis[GOD]>are only taken <Xiphosis[GOD]>at mutual consent <Xiphosis[GOD]>not one side <Xiphosis[GOD]>or it's straight up leaving someone knee-deep in mud <Xiphosis[GOD]>and that is what happened last night <Hyp>if i recall last night, you were fine with me trying to get Fark/MHA to help <Xiphosis[GOD]>Hyp <Xiphosis[GOD]>I was so wired my nerves were literally pulsing <Hyp>and I'm pretty sure me trying to get 20 millions NS to back you isn't leaving you knee deep in mud <Xiphosis[GOD]>I didn't have /time/ to be mad <Hyp>that's not throwing you a rope, that's getting you a god damn crane <Xiphosis[GOD]>I know <Xiphosis[GOD]>and I said that <Xiphosis[GOD]> <Xiphosis[GOD]>still missing the point <Hyp>oh no <Hyp>i get it <Hyp>activating defense clauses without planning first > not !@#$@#$ over everyone we know <Xiphosis[GOD]>no, for gods sake <Hyp>then what ARE you saying <Xiphosis[GOD]>RIA getting directly attacked matters more than your not-being-attacked-allies allies. <Xiphosis[GOD]>one directly obligates Sparta and one doesn't. <Xiphosis[GOD]>that's just basic <Xiphosis[GOD]>but you went with the latter over the former <Xiphosis[GOD]>and that's serious !@#$ that has to be addressed <Xiphosis[GOD]>because people are counting on you and we have to know we can <Xiphosis[GOD]>the faith got kicked in the nuts <Xiphosis[GOD]>for Athens' sake <Hyp>fine, we're not going anywhere with this <Hyp>mind if post these logs for tulak/luka to read <Xiphosis[GOD]>I'd rather you did Hyp>alright <Hyp>obviously you and I disagree, but Tulak/Luka will be on to weigh in further on whatever position they see fit <Hyp>sometime tonight <Xiphosis[GOD]>alright man <Hyp>if you need anything else let us know <Xiphosis[GOD]>same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Savage Man Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Gonna need a tldr on that one dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) I see that this is a step in the right direction from you. Although you have wronged me, I'm glad to see it. So I ask: Do you plan on attempting to right that which you did wrong? You know what I am referring to. EDIT: I noticed in the earlier pages, when Delta addressed our issue with CsN, while doing a very grand and seemingly persuasive job of absolving his allies of all guilt, seemed to ignore what was firmly established in around 90 pages of myself and some friends slapping those who blindly supported extortion around in a debate. Seeing as I feel no need to rehash the obvious for the millionth time now, you can field my question in the way that it was intended: that a wrong act was indeed committed and that I am curious to see if you have any intent on rectifying it, or simply justifying your sadistic actions to the public. Edited August 5, 2011 by MaGneT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1312517595' post='2772391'] Gonna need a tldr on that one dog. [/quote] Xiph: "WHAT THE $%&@ DUDE!" Hyp: "DUDE, WHAT THE $%&@!" Xiph: "no seriously dude...what the $%&@." Hyp: "No...what the $%&@ dude...seriously." Xiph: "seriously." Hyp: "What the $%&@." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dontasemebro Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 That logdump has some seriously unnecessary parts in it. Not what an ally would do tbh, Im pretty disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1312516271' post='2772376'] I can only hope everyone decides to sit out and let them settle it 1 on 1 once and for all. [/quote] Just answer the question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Dontasemebro' timestamp='1312518673' post='2772404'] That logdump has some seriously unnecessary parts in it. Not what an ally would do tbh, Im pretty disappointed. [/quote] Yeah, I agree with this guy. That is a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg23 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I love log dumps, that was cool.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schad Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Love the contrast here: [quote="Xiphosis"]2. What does SF think about the speculation that many of the smaller Maroon alliances appear to be displeased with SF and actions some of its members have taken in recent months? Frankly, I'm no longer allied to any 'small' Maroon alliances. TTK and CRAP can hold their own with any of you, and they don't need me speaking for them, either. [/quote] [quote]<Xiphosis[GOD]>2 of my allies got pulled in due to NpO treaties, most of maroon is incompetent[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Hello Xiphosis, I am well how are you? Enjoying your thread? I am... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Dontasemebro' timestamp='1312518673' post='2772404'] That logdump has some seriously unnecessary parts in it. Not what an ally would do tbh, Im pretty disappointed. [/quote] What was unnessecary? That was literally what was going through my thought process when I made the decision. Keep in mind, I was only an elder, so that decision wasn't even mine to make. The kings weren't around to make the call, so when Xiph came to me, that was what transpired. I never said I was right, I just thought I would air out our individual thought processes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1312519038' post='2772414'] Hello Xiphosis, I am well how are you? Enjoying your thread? I am... [/quote] I'd say this has gone very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Schad' timestamp='1312519035' post='2772413'] Love the contrast here: [/quote] I'm not a delegate of course, but you may have noticed that the showing of most of the Maroon alliances was pretty subpar. Or are you trying to dispute that assessment? The war was a wakeup call for quite a few people. Edited August 5, 2011 by Aurion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 [quote name='Aurion' timestamp='1312519277' post='2772420'] The war was a wakeup call for quite a few people. [/quote] Which is all the more revealing when you see that a supposedly "awakened" alliance will stand by the atrocities of their allies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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