ShadowDragon Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) I sort of randomly decided to make a list of unofficial blocs going off my master treaty list. By "Unofficial bloc" I mean that all of the alliances are treatied to each other. Might have missed a few but I think I got most of them. I just thought it might be interesting to look at. Anyways here it is: [i][b][u]Unofficial MDoAP blocs:[/u][/b][/i] [b][u]7 alliance unofficial blocs[/u][/b] [color=maroon]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/color] [color=aqua]Farkistan[/color] [color=maroon]Global Order of Darkness[/color] [color=maroon]Monos Archein[/color] [color=maroon]Random Insanity Alliance[/color] [color=orange]R&R[/color] [color=aqua]Ragnarok[/color] [b][u]5 alliance unofficial blocs[/u][/b] [color=aqua]Farkistan[/color] [color=maroon]Global Order of Darkness Random Insanity Alliance[/color] [color=aqua]Ragnarok[/color] [color=black]Sparta[/color] [b][u]4 alliance unofficial blocs[/u][/b] [color=blue]Ascended Republic of Elite States Genesis New Polar Order Union of Integrated National Entities [/color] - [color=maroon]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/color] [color=aqua]Ragnarok[/color] [color=maroon]Random Insanity Alliance[/color] [color=brown]Silence[/color] - [color=maroon]Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations[/color] [color=aqua]Farkistan Guru Order Ragnarok[/color] - [color=aqua]Athens[/color] [color=black]Federation of Buccaneers[/color] [color=orange]Orange Defense Network[/color] [color=black]Sparta[/color] - [color=maroon]Global Order of Darkness[/color] [color=aqua]Ragnarok[/color] [color=maroon]Random Insanity Alliance[/color] [color=green]Viridian Entente[/color] [b][u]3 alliance unofficial blocs:[/u][/b] [color=aqua]Farkistan Mostly Harmless Alliance[/color] [color=black]Sparta[/color] - [color=aqua]Mostly Harmless Alliance[/color] [color=black]Sparta Umbrella[/color] - [color=aqua]Farkistan Guru Order Mostly Harmless Alliance[/color] - [color=red]New Pacific Order Regnum Invictorum[/color] [color=purple]The Legion[/color] - [color=red]New Pacific Order[/color] [color=blue]North Atlantic Treaty Organization[/color] [color=purple]The Legion[/color] - [color=red]New Pacific Order[/color] [color=blue]North Atlantic Treaty Organization[/color] [color=grey]The Phoenix Federation[/color] - [color=blue]Avalanche Federation of Allied Republics New Polar Order[/color] - [color=blue]Federation of Allied Republics New Polar Order Union of Integrated National Entities[/color] - [color=blue]New Polar Order The Lost World Union of Integrated National Entities[/color] - [color=blue]Neuva Vida New Polar Order[/color] [color=grey]Siberian Tiger Alliance[/color] - [color=blue]Genesis Neuva Vida New Polar Order[/color] - [color=blue]New Polar Order The Imperial Order The Killer Turtle Brigade[/color] - [color=blue]Imperial Assault Alliance New Polar Order The Imperial Order[/color] - [color=blue]Ascended Republic of Elite States Genesis[/color] [color=maroon]Global Order of Darkness[/color] - [color=blue]The Conservative Underground The Imperial Order The Killer Turtle Brigade[/color] - [color=blue]Colossus Nueva Vida[/color] [color=black]Nordreich[/color] - [color=black]Dark Templar[/color] [color=blue]Neuva Vida[/color] [color=black]Nordreich[/color] - [color=blue]North Atlantic Defense Coalition North Atlantic Treaty Organization The Foreign Division[/color] - [color=blue]North Atlantic Defense Coalition North Atlantic Treaty Organization[/color] [color=purple]The Legion[/color] - [color=orange]Independent Republic of Orange Nations The Order of Righteous Nations[/color] [color=purple]Valhalla[/color] - [color=orange]FOK!-Alliance The German Empire The International[/color] - [color=aqua]Farkistan[/color] [color=orange]FOK!-Alliance[/color] [color=purple]iFOK!-Alliance[/color] - [color=maroon]Global Order of Darkness[/color] [color=black]Goon Order of Oppression Negligence and Sadism[/color] [color=green]Viridian Entente[/color] - [color=purple]iFOK!-Alliance[/color] [color=grey]Nusantara Elite Warriors[/color] [color=black]Poison Clan[/color] - [color=black]Alpha Omega Goon Order of Oppression Negligence and Sadism Umbrella[/color] - [color=black]Goon Order of Oppression Negligence and Sadism[/color] [color=aqua]League of Shadows Treaty Mushroom Kingdom[/color] - [color=aqua]League of Shadows Treaty Mushroom Kingdom[/color] [color=orange]Orange Defense Network[/color] - [color=aqua]Athens Deck of International Card Experts League of Shadows Treaty[/color] - [color=aqua]Athens[/color] [color=blue]Imperial Assault Alliance[/color] [color=brown]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/color] - [color=aqua]Athens[/color] [color=brown]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/color] [color=orange]Orange Defense Network[/color] - [color=aqua]Athens[/color] [color=blue]Greenland Republic Imperial Assault Alliance[/color] - [color=black]Menotah[/color] [color=purple]United Purple Nations[/color] [color=maroon]United Sovereign Nations[/color] - [color=blue]New Polar Order[/color] [color=purple]United Purple Nations[/color] [color=maroon]United Sovereign Nations[/color] [i][b][u]Unofficial MDP blocs[/u][/b][/i] [b][u]3 alliances:[/u][/b] [color=aqua]Farkistan Mostly Harmless Alliance[/color] [color=orange]R&R[/color] - [color=red]New Pacific Order[/color] [color=brown]New Sith Order[/color] [color=red]Regnum Invictorum[/color] - [color=maroon]Random Insanity Alliance[/color] [color=teal]SOS Brigade[/color] [color=orange]The International[/color] - [color=aqua]Argent[/color] [color=purple]Ordinary Men Fighting Giants[/color] [color=orange]The Order of the Paradox[/color] - [color=purple]Board Alliance of Protectorate States Nebula-X Valhalla[/color] - [color=black]Amazon Nation Asgaard The Shadow Confederacy Empire[/color] - [color=black]Amazon Nation Octava Orden The Shadow Confederacy Empire[/color] Edited November 17, 2010 by ShadowDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktarthan Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Kind of interesting to see the overlap that's present. Although, probably could have done without the 3-member ones, as they are fairly common and not particularly significant. Maybe we should give them all Unofficial names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 sweet, IAA's is in only 3 unofficial blocs and all are with 3 alliances. in fact, 2 of the 3 involve Athens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Z Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Interesting to say the least, though not the first time this has been brought up I am sure. At first glance, all I see is that there are a lot of blue alliances, and Farkistan has too many treaties I think the better question is, which of these alliances could potentially start a bloc based on diplomatic ability and a lack of comfortability in their current position. When met with these two constraints, I think of Farkistan and Pacifica. Using that, I use the OP to see who these two alliances could potentially have in their respective bloc(s). That said I could see the following bloc(s) actually happening: 1) Farkistan, Guru Order, Mostly Harmless Alliance, Sparta 2) Polaris, Siberian Tiger Alliance, Genesis, Neuva Vida, and some more blue alliances. 3) Pacifica, Regnum Invictorum, NSO, Hydra, and some more purple. 4) Argent, OMFG, TOP 5) Dark Templar, Neuva Vida, Nordreich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't believe that NADC has a treaty with NPO. You might be mistaking them for NATO. And ironic that you do this just as I'm putting the finishing touches on my new treaty web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladisvok Destino Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Something I just noticed, the treaty text for the USN-NpO treaty that was posted on the OWF (that the wiki page and your list make use of) is incorrect, the treaty text on both alliances public forums includes an optional aggression clause and the treaty itself is listed by both as an MDoAP, so the USN/NpO/UPN entry should be in the 3-alliance-MDoAP section. Edited November 17, 2010 by Vladisvok Destino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Somebody has a lot of spare time Nice work with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1290030322' post='2516100'] I don't believe that NADC has a treaty with NPO. You might be mistaking them for NATO. And ironic that you do this just as I'm putting the finishing touches on my new treaty web. [/quote] That is true, we also do not have a treaty with Hydra. Nice work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryievla Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Hey, that's pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragon Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1290030322' post='2516100'] I don't believe that NADC has a treaty with NPO. You might be mistaking them for NATO. And ironic that you do this just as I'm putting the finishing touches on my new treaty web. [/quote] Fixed. Yeah it was supposed to be NATO. [quote name='Vladisvok Destino' timestamp='1290031733' post='2516125'] Something I just noticed, the treaty text for the USN-NpO treaty that was posted on the OWF (that the wiki page and your list make use of) is incorrect, the treaty text on both alliances public forums includes an optional aggression clause and the treaty itself is listed by both as an MDoAP, so the USN/NpO/UPN entry should be in the 3-alliance-MDoAP section. [/quote] Fixed. [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1290032194' post='2516131'] That is true, we also do not have a treaty with Hydra. Nice work though. [/quote] Fixed. Not sure what I did there. >_> Edited November 17, 2010 by ShadowDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 A couple I noticed: MDP: Amazon Nation - The Shadow Confederacy Empire - Octava Orden MDoAP: =LOST= -DiCE - Athens =LOST= - MK - ODN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalk Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) Doom House Accords (MK-Umb-GOONS). Edited November 17, 2010 by Stalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyfe XIV Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Athens Global Alliance and Treaty Organization Orange Defense Network - Athens Greenland Republic Imperial Assault Alliance - Athens Global Alliance and Treaty Organization Orange Defense Network Athens, GATO and ODN love each other so much we 2 unofficial blocs with them Very nice work though, this is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 [quote name='Stalk' timestamp='1290033319' post='2516150'] Doom House Accords (MK-Umb-GOONS). [/quote] "Unofficial", mi amigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snibbmaster Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Interesting to see how some of these groups are in official blocs as well. I suppose it shows just how tangled the web has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 [quote name='Jay Z' timestamp='1290030244' post='2516099'] 3) Pacifica, Regnum Invictorum, NSO, Hydra, and some more purple. [/quote] Doesn't Hydra hate purple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalk Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 [quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1290033508' post='2516156'] "Unofficial", mi amigo. [/quote] Meh, mentioned it on the basis that it isn't currently listed in Unspeakable Evil's bloc statistics (but ShadowDragon apparently mentioned it in that thread recently), my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 [quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1290029117' post='2516084'] Kind of interesting to see the overlap that's present. Although, probably could have done without the 3-member ones, as they are fairly common and not particularly significant. Maybe we should give them all Unofficial names. [/quote] yes! this i actually a highly entertaining idea and should be outsourced to Mini Tru of Farkistan and Shadow i started to read and just saw "blocs" and became confused...derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Z Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 [quote name='Mathias' timestamp='1290033685' post='2516158'] Doesn't Hydra hate purple? [/quote] I have no idea to be honest. If that is the case, they sure haven't made an attempt to separate from purple based on the treaty web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 (edited) [quote name='ShadowDragon' timestamp='1290028101' post='2516067'] [color=aqua]Farkistan Guru Order Mostly Harmless Alliance[/color] [/quote] I see this and my mind screams Trident 2.0! Edited November 17, 2010 by Azrael Alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I see the treaties whores >_> TIO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 So this is where I place my generic disapproval of treaties and say these alliances are ruining the game for perpetuating the treaty web. ™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KagetheSecond Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 [quote name='Jay Z' timestamp='1290030244' post='2516099'] 4) Argent, OMFG, TOP [/quote] Throw in FCC and you'd have yourself Citadel 2.0 aka Pillowfort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 [quote name='KagetheSecond' timestamp='1290044664' post='2516325'] Throw in FCC and you'd have yourself Citadel 2.0 aka Pillowfort [/quote] Sigs are currently being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WcaesarD Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Nice work, I guess that most of these aren't surprising really, but its certainly interesting to see them all in one place for easy reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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