Pacific News Network Press Release: Flags of our Comrades

[Strudeldorf]

[size=3][b]The Flags of our Comrades[/b][/size]
Written by Vengashii





[center][b][size=5][color="#0000FF"][u]Francos' Banner[/u][/color][/size][/b][/center]


[center][img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/NPOFlag.png[/img][/center]



[center][b][size=5][u]The [color="#FF0000"]Crimson[/color] Standard[/u][/size][/b][/center]

[center]
[img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/NPORedFlag.png[/img][/center]


Two years ago, I wrote in the special commemorative Pacific Press issue for the two year anniversary of the New Pacific Order. The article was about our flag, that rockin' blue and black flag you see up top first here. In that article, I wrote about the flag's history in CyberNations, and what it symbolises. To those who have forgotten, and to those who simply are not aware, I will repeat it here for contextual sake:

[quote]The symbolism of the flag of the Order is a profound one. The deep blue hues on the flag represent the Pacific, eternal and dominating. The black represents the jackboots of the soldiers of the Order, forever crushing our enemies' throats. Eight triangles, to represent the number of infinity. Lastly, the golden star of Francos Spain, the five points representing the five days between the August Revolution on August 28th, 2003 and the founding of the New Pacific Order, on September 1st, 2003. The very first banners of Franco used to display the star outlined in red, to commemorate the blood spilled from our fallen comrades during the Revolution.[/quote]

In the two years since the two year anniversary, an alternative flag has made it's way around the barracks and bases of the Order - the Crimson Standard, that gloriously red flag you see up there. The symbols represented in that flag are just as profound: Red, for the blood always spilled in defense of our values and comrades. Black, for those darkest nights before the dawn when Pacifica prevailed in the end. Eight triangles, to represent the number of infinity and of prosperity. Lastly and always, the golden star of Francos Spain, the five points representing the five days between the August Revolution on August 28th, 2003 and the founding of the New Pacific Order, on September 1st, 2003. Now the banners of Pacifica will always commemorate the blood spilled from our fallen comrades.

As the Order lives and breathes, so does the spirit of Peace, Strength, and Prosperity.

Hail the New Pacific Order!


Note: The pictures are thumbnails because some of the originals are massive in size.



[center][b][size=7]The Flags of Our Comrades[/size][/b][/center]

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[i]Francos' Banner[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=crimsonstandard.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_crimsonstandard.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]The Crimson Standard[/i]


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[i]Comrade Zblue's flag in his bedroom.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=w1smdu.png][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_w1smdu.png[/IMG][/URL]
[i]I somehow always expected Comrade Squintus to look like that.[/i]


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[i]Comrade Saturos is one happy Pacifican.[/i]


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[i]Comrade Dragon's Claw is taking Pacifica to the stars.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=wentworthflag.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_wentworthflag.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Wentworth will now always have a great background.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=IMAG0220.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_IMAG0220.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade KingWilliam's flags. Also, Moo-Cows.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=1000847v.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_1000847v.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Pico is giving Comrade Bilrow's flags the cold shoulder, but he's sooo adorable anyway.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=Photo0146.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_Photo0146.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade President Nevik's wavy flag.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=img1482c.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_img1482c.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Dr. James Henry's gloriously Crimson Standard.[/i]


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[i]Comrade Necoho's putting the grommets on the correct side here.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=NPO_Flags.png][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_NPO_Flags.png[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Walt Schmidt needs to unwrap his flags.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=photolo.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_photolo.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Farrin also has a great background.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=pacific_flag.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_pacific_flag.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Lord of the Port snuggling with his flag.[/i]



[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=3tAUD.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_3tAUD.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Nabki's flag now hangs somewhere in the Middle East.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=IMAG0102.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_IMAG0102.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Frawley looks as dashing as ever in front of his flags.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=DSC00167A.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_DSC00167A.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Elegarth with Franco's Banner.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=sdc10692.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_sdc10692.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]My (Vengashii) awesome flags.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=IMG00094.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_IMG00094.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Brennan's flag.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=DSC00374.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_DSC00374.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade William Bonney's flag in Toronto. Go Toronto. [/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=NPOSewnFlag.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_NPOSewnFlag.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade SetiCruncher's flag. Don't you want one now?[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=Photo-0027.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_Photo-0027.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Koona's flag. It's about time.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=001gek.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_001gek.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Makalaure's flag.[/i]


[URL=http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/?action=view&current=qybmfn.jpg][IMG]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_qybmfn.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[i]Comrade Askani the Rotund's flag.[/i] [img]http://pacificorder.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/vlad.png[/img]


o/

[Snowbeast]

Where is Comrade LJ_Scott's flag?

[abdur]

Is there someplace where these flags may be ordered?

[Bob Ilyani]

Those are awesome. Like really awesome. I like a lot. Also, Go Toronto indeed.

[Weezy]

Ooohhhh preeetttyyy...

I want one!

[youwish959]

How exactly do 8 triangles represent infinity? Could you go more in depth on this?

[Pollard]

[quote name='youwish959' timestamp='1288989053' post='2503113']
How exactly do 8 triangles represent infinity? Could you go more in depth on this?
[/quote]

[img]http://static.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/8/8/1/small/1886369.jpg[/img]

^ the symbol for infinity.

Edited November 5, 2010 by Darth Pollard

[youwish959]

[quote name='Darth Pollard' timestamp='1288989529' post='2503115']
[img]http://static.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/8/8/1/small/1886369.jpg[/img]

^ the symbol for infinity.
[/quote]
In that case, where do the triangles come into play? Just wanted some triangles?

[Londo Mollari]

Why are your national rulers all located in tiny bedrooms? Where are the great halls and palaces of state in their nations?

[Lady Red]

[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1288990381' post='2503122']
Why are your national rulers all located in tiny bedrooms? Where are the great halls and palaces of state in their nations?
[/quote]

You should see where we keep our nukes these days.

[SirWilliam]

I can see Comrade Pico's tinky winky.

[Gopherbashi]

[quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1288987845' post='2503102']
Those are awesome. Like really awesome. I like a lot. [b]Also, Go Toronto indeed.[/b]
[/quote]
Also, a question about the flag itself - should the first triangle when travelling clockwise from noon be black or red/blue? The orientation of the flag seems to shift depending on the picture.

[img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_1000847v.jpg[/img] or [img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_3tAUD.jpg[/img]

[SirWilliam]

[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1288993995' post='2503162']
Also, a question about the flag itself - should the first triangle when travelling clockwise from noon be black or red/blue? The orientation of the flag seems to shift depending on the picture.

[img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_1000847v.jpg[/img] or [img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_3tAUD.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

[url="http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090917182853/cybernations/images/b/b8/NPObannerflagnew.png"]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090917182853/cybernations/images/b/b8/NPObannerflagnew.png[/url]
[url="http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090713101805/cybernations/images/8/8a/Imperial_Flag_2.png"]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090713101805/cybernations/images/8/8a/Imperial_Flag_2.png[/url]

Black it seems.

[AFK 47]

Where can I order a flag?

[TypoNinja]

[quote name='youwish959' timestamp='1288989746' post='2503118']
In that case, where do the triangles come into play? Just wanted some triangles?
[/quote]

The object is less of importance than the number of objects, its not literal, that's why they call it symbolism.

((The US flag uses stars for the States, and bars for the original colonies, for an nice OOC example that's easily relateable to the player base.))

Flag imagery tends not to be very literal, (though there are some cases of it) especially when it comes to counting/numbers. You almost never see numbers on a flag, rather a regular theme repeated, and the number of times its repeated becomes the significant part.

The reason for this is that a flag is supposed to have notable/memorable imagery, since humans as a species are pattern seekers, (that is, our brains attempt to find patterns in everything, even where none exist we will attempt to overlay one, its just the way we think) so we will retain a deliberately pattered image better than one that is not.

Eh I'm rambling, the short answer probably is "yes" they did just want some triangles . But now you know why eight triangles were a better choice than just slapping the infinity symbol on there somewhere.

[veracity]

it seems no one knows where to get the flags from.



also, where are they hiding their nukes??? in the hamper?

[theArrowheadian]

[quote name='youwish959' timestamp='1288989746' post='2503118']
In that case, where do the triangles come into play? Just wanted some triangles?
[/quote]

How dare you question their made up symbolism!

Edit: Also this really has blurred the IC and OOC lines now hasn't it?

Edited November 5, 2010 by theArrowheadian

[leprecon]

I'm very surprised by the patriotism in the NPO. I knew it was there and abundant but I didn't think it translated to such large purchases of flags.

[quote name='theArrowheadian' timestamp='1288996171' post='2503201']
How dare you question their made up symbolism!
[/quote]

[ooc: How dare they create a rich backstory and imagine interesting symbolism? It is almost as if they are treating cybernations like it is some sort of game in which you are supposed to create a role and play it. A "play rolling game" or something.]

Edited November 5, 2010 by leprecon

[alyster]

[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1288993995' post='2503162']
Also, a question about the flag itself - should the first triangle when travelling clockwise from noon be black or red/blue? The orientation of the flag seems to shift depending on the picture.

[img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_1000847v.jpg[/img] or [img]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r204/Vengashii/th_3tAUD.jpg[/img]
[/quote]


Good eye! By imperial degree quite some time ago both versions are accepted.

/me owns one aswell


[quote]it seems no one knows where to get the flags from.[/quote]

Quite obviously we do know

Edited November 5, 2010 by alyster

[theArrowheadian]

[quote name='alyster' timestamp='1288997146' post='2503213']
Good eye! By imperial degree quite some time ago both versions are accepted.

/me owns one aswell




Quite obviously we do know
[/quote]

I'm also going to guess that both star colors are accepted as well

[alyster]

If you mean the very very light yellow or almost white star, then this is just due to photo camera's flash.

[xoindotnler]

[quote name='veracity' timestamp='1288995612' post='2503189']
it seems no one knows where to get the flags from.



also, where are they hiding their nukes??? in the hamper?
[/quote]
OOC: A lot of company's do it but it costs a lot, but with some scissors and a sewing machine you can make your own.

[Banksy]

i never understood why you guys would want to admit to owning this !@#$ tbqh.

[Edifice]

ITT: I'm too cool for flags.

Get over yourselves.

[Chief Savage Man]

I think if the Emperor commanded it, at least six Pacificans would commit ritual suicide.