Bob Janova Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nobody was 'leading' either of the sides. LiquidMercury was one of the main military organizers, and the others empowered him to make the announcements. The main military coordinator is as close to leadership as a coalition gets. There were good reasons for TOP to be involved in that coalition, in my opinion, but denying that LM was in a leadership role is rather strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nobody was 'leading' either of the sides. LiquidMercury was one of the main military organizers, and the others empowered him to make the announcements. Even if you play semantics with the definition of leader, It's silly to say that TOP "isn't on a side" when a TOP member was the main military organizer, and the one making announcements for one of the sides in a near war just weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Well this is extremely sad and disappointing to see, as were the discussions that preceded the cancellation. I've always loved FOK! but this gives me considerable pause for thought about how I feel about y'all. Poor show. Edit: Clarification. Edited January 19, 2010 by Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Courageous enough to let Gre lead the way both times. Except Gre hasnt really changed anything with their move. MHA still holds treaties to most of the people Gre cancelled on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Blake Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Its still courageous to do what has to be/should be done. Sure, hence the at the end of the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerau Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 best of luck TOP and FOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Even if you play semantics with the definition of leader, It's silly to say that TOP "isn't on a side" when a TOP member was the main military organizer, and the one making announcements for one of the sides in a near war just weeks ago. So TOP can't make a stand with regards to a treaty? I appreciate what FOK is doing by saying hey it's clear we're diverging in different FA directions but at least be up front about it. Crying that LM was a military coordinator for our side in a war many felt was unjustified has many here, lets say CB stands for crybabies, in a hissy fit. Oh well, FOK, one thing to say: Ascend Edited January 19, 2010 by The AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos27 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Good luck to both, especially to our friends and allies over TOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 So TOP can't make a stand with regards to a treaty? I appreciate what FOK is doing by saying hey it's clear we're diverging in different FA directions but at least be up front about it. Crying that LM was a military coordinator for our side in a war many felt was unjustified has many here, lets say CB stands for crybabies, in a hissy fit.Oh well, FOK, one thing to say: Ascend I think I speak for most of the people in the Cyberverse. What. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think I speak for most of the people in the Cyberverse.What. Possibly a reference to the Unjust Path? Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC1 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 So TOP can't make a stand with regards to a treaty? I appreciate what FOK is doing by saying hey it's clear we're diverging in different FA directions but at least be up front about it. Crying that LM was a military coordinator for our side in a war many felt was unjustified has many here, lets say CB stands for crybabies, in a hissy fit.Oh well, FOK, one thing to say: Ascend Nobody is crying about it, they're merely calling LM out because he said he doesn't consider TOP to be on either "side", despite the fact that he was the leader of one side. Nice sig btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Possibly a reference to the Unjust Path? Who knows? That comment was aimed at the entirety of his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmmehhh Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Not really happy how everything went and how our relationship ended. A sad day this is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscher Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'm not sad to see this at all, good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 So TOP can't make a stand with regards to a treaty? I appreciate what FOK is doing by saying hey it's clear we're diverging in different FA directions but at least be up front about it. Crying that LM was a military coordinator for our side in a war many felt was unjustified has many here, lets say CB stands for crybabies, in a hissy fit.Oh well, FOK, one thing to say: Ascend Comedy gold! How do you come up with this stuff? I mean, it bears no relelelelvance to anything at all, do you just plug your ears when other people talk and make this up as you go along. You're onto a winner here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I enjoyed our time together. Farewell, friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 So TOP can't make a stand with regards to a treaty? I appreciate what FOK is doing by saying hey it's clear we're diverging in different FA directions but at least be up front about it. Crying that LM was a military coordinator for our side in a war many felt was unjustified has many here, lets say CB stands for crybabies, in a hissy fit.Oh well, FOK, one thing to say: Ascend And to claim that TOP hasn't picked a side when one of their members was the leader of a opposition movement against us is absolutely absurd. But keep on keeping on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Since I forgot to say it earlier: Best of luck to FOK. I was in government back when we first signed the treaty, and I had the pleasure of serving 16 months in government with FOK as an ally---through both the good times and the bad. Stay in touch. So he was a military organizer in a battle that had nothing to do with TOP. Sure TOP had nothing to do with it :'). You should've listened a bit better to Steve here, he knows what he is talking about. We were very much involved overall, for sure. Even if you play semantics with the definition of leader, It's silly to say that TOP "isn't on a side" when a TOP member was the main military organizer, and the one making announcements for one of the sides in a near war just weeks ago. I didn't say we were not "on a side"; I said we did not "lead a side". Edit: Apparently you're referring to LM's comment. Well, in his case I think he was saying that while we took a side in the recent conflict, our "side" in the FA world is with our allies. Edited January 19, 2010 by Crymson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 That comment was aimed at the entirety of his post. Ah, I just thought it was aimed at the 'Ascend' remark. I found that bit rather odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) This must of been a very hard thing to do for FOK. Good luck FOK And TOP have most defiantly taken a side anyone who dosent admit it is porously ignoring the facts or has zero CN political knowledge Edited January 19, 2010 by steodonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Ah, I just thought it was aimed at the 'Ascend' remark. I found that bit rather odd. Nothing odd about an obscure comment hinting at C&G, and friends, being a remake of the Unjust Path which was a truly and evil creation with no good in it at all. Also GOONS ate babies and committed hate crimes against minority cripples. Gotta love propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgator Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Best wishes FOK, had to have been a tough one. Keep up the good work FOK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natan Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Its ashame you felt you had to pick friends over other friends, FOK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Apocalypse Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Nothing odd about an obscure comment hinting at C&G, and friends, being a remake of the Unjust Path which was a truly and evil creation with no good in it at all. Also GOONS ate babies and committed hate crimes against minority cripples. Gotta love propaganda. I heard if you say something for long enough it becomes true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) I heard if you say something for long enough it becomes true! In that case... C&G, and friends, are a remake of the Unjust Path which was a truly and evil creation with no good in it at all. Also GOONS ate babies and committed hate crimes against minority cripples. Also o/ Pacifica. Edited January 19, 2010 by Stumpy Jung Il Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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