Sephiroth Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) I'm honored but, I would say Roquentin is more influential then me, should you pick from Umbrella. I wasn't really going for one of each, but I agree Roquentin is up there. Trace's sex appeal is largely why FCC signed with MK as well, so goes up there as well. Bob Janova, Audustum, GVChamp, Some-Guy, Steelrat, AJ all influenced me in positive ways as well. With a long history with many people it can be hard to choose one that influence you the most, but that would probably be Szyzgy for me. Also potatao Join The New Citadel Order And Everyone Else! Edited December 9, 2009 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 What about 404 Error? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 What about 404 Error? He was to good for this world, probably moved onto better places by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustakrakish II Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Me. Trust me, I am not biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Historically - Tygaland the Terrible.The effects of that nuke are still felt today.Currently - Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Reginbacher Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 The correct answer is of course Orville Reginbacher. I leave the world, and look what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Almighty Grub. Corinth. Archon. Ivan Moldavi. In that order. Edited December 9, 2009 by Prime minister Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Any leader of an alliance of more than 50-75 nations is just as influential in terms of actual power than any leader of a 500 nation alliance. A well placed rogue, nuke or simple declaration of war will draw in all the major players whether it comes from a Nasser or a Bismarck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'm still the vox dei even if I'm not the Vox Dei. In the future, Cortath will be a man of wealth and taste, it will remain to be seen how he chooses to use it. Did you just do thar what I think you did thar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellAngel Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Any leader of an alliance of more than 50-75 nations is just as influential in terms of actual power than any leader of a 500 nation alliance.A well placed rogue, nuke or simple declaration of war will draw in all the major players whether it comes from a Nasser or a Bismarck. Pretty much this. So the more trigger happy you are, the more power you have. Funny world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Hah, it's funny everyone is saying almightygrub, he seems like a bit of a joke tbh. I don't think any one person could change the game and political scene, being boring and making sure things stay the same seems to be embedded into peoples minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Hah, it's funny everyone is saying almightygrub, he seems like a bit of a joke tbh. "People having different opinions to my own? THIS CANNOT STAND." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James I Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Any leader of an alliance of more than 50-75 nations is just as influential in terms of actual power than any leader of a 500 nation alliance.A well placed rogue, nuke or simple declaration of war will draw in all the major players whether it comes from a Nasser or a Bismarck. To say that AGW Overlords' leader (an alliance of 56) has the same power as FinsterBaby (529) is rather a stretch. Each has the same power over his own alliance, yes. If either were to attack NSO, they would cause NSO and friends to fight back, probably. Would AGW have the same power to call upon military back-up? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 To say that AGW Overlords' leader (an alliance of 56) has the same power as FinsterBaby (529) is rather a stretch. Each has the same power over his own alliance, yes. If either were to attack NSO, they would cause NSO and friends to fight back, probably. Would AGW have the same power to call upon military back-up? No. Linear thinking such as this is not the way of a malevolent dictator though. AGW Overlords could sign one treaty that would connect them to the ridiculous monstrosity called the "treaty web" and make just as big a turmoil as IRON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Linear thinking such as this is not the way of a malevolent dictator though. AGW Overlords could sign one treaty that would connect them to the ridiculous monstrosity called the "treaty web" and make just as big a turmoil as IRON. The leader of AGW Overlords would, of course, have to have the chops required to treat a high profile alliance. Generally speaking (and I know I'll get called on this in spite of vague wording and italics), larger alliances have higher calibre leadership, which makes it less likely for a smaller alliance to become as well connected. Otherwise, I'm inclined to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 The leader of AGW Overlords would, of course, have to have the chops required to treat a high profile alliance. Generally speaking (and I know I'll get called on this in spite of vague wording and italics), larger alliances have higher calibre leadership, which makes it less likely for a smaller alliance to become as well connected. Otherwise, I'm inclined to agree. Yes, you will get called on that. Stat collection has very little to do with leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yes, you will get called on that. Stat collection has very little to do with leadership. I was speaking more in terms of membership size, or more specifically, active, intelligent membership size. The more competition there is for a position, the more likely you are to have a capable leader fill it. Your own challenge system takes direct advantage of this, does it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 "People having different opinions to my own? THIS CANNOT STAND." I was merely giving my own opinion, grub isn't anything special. I never said people can't have different opinions to my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) The answer is a tough one. But after weeks of contemplation within the Great Athenian Library, I have come to the conclusion that the annals of history will one day show the greatest leaders of all time to come from the following list of 2: 1) RyanGDI 2) Terry Howard Good day. Edited to add a 3rd name : 3) polisofboy - Who not? Edited December 10, 2009 by Rush Sykes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 1) RyanGDI That's the second mention of Ryan I've seen. Did anybody have particularly high expectations of him in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'd say E_S was pretty high up there. Dilber during his peak was a huge part of WUT (Just put two and two together - we could see from the other thread about treaties/blocs being most important, that WUT was really high up there). If you mean now - I guess Archon or Grub. Both are figureheads/actual leaders of their blocs, as well as alliances that have shown they will fight, and they will survive. Citadel doesn't really have anybody like that. For SF, I guess Hoo, but I don't think he's as influential as the Archon/Grub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buds The Man Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Linear thinking such as this is not the way of a malevolent dictator though. AGW Overlords could sign one treaty that would connect them to the ridiculous monstrosity called the "treaty web" and make just as big a turmoil as IRON. Damn I dont like it but I understand this line of thinking it does make sense Archon, Grub Pansy Archon can influence most of bob whether he does it publically or privately. Same with Grub. Both have the ability to do things but generally the wisdom to leave things alone unless necessary. Pansy is amazing and has contacts all over Bob he may not lead an alliance but he is generally right there to help what ever AA hes in succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyriq Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I like the idea of Grub being the most influential player. The way he has positioned himself, his alliance, and his relationship with the NPO is solid in all regards. And if you think about the whole Karma war and some of the bigger guns that helped set that up, like Vox, NSO (they did have a large effect on the way we dialoged about the Hegemony), and even some of the major players in C&G (formed in a large part due to the War of the Coalition), than you can begin to see just how much of the meat behind what changed this game really lies on his side of the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 In all seriousness: Grub, for reasons mentioned before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) Hah, it's funny everyone is saying almightygrub, he seems like a bit of a joke tbh. I don't think any one person could change the game and political scene, being boring and making sure things stay the same seems to be embedded into peoples minds. I was about to cry myself to sleep, then I realized being called a bit of a joke by the long running joke himself was kind of cool. I do not claim to be anything other than the Emperor of Polaris Jack.. your own projections onto me though are amusing. Edited December 10, 2009 by AlmightyGrub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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