Stetson76 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 The FOK/iFOK relation is not standard. We ask for approval of treaties with all of our allies. FOK is just one of many allies. I can understand it. If everything, including your own words didn't say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 FOK are not your allies. If they are under attack, you are under no obligation to do anything at all. Please, test it. Put your money where your mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikz Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I can understand it. If everything, including your own words didn't say otherwise. I know you're pissed because PEACE lost a senate seat, but please stop worrying, its bad for your heart. Just discuss this in pvt and you guys will solve it I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 You guys are no longer a protectorate of FOK, you don't share their IRC channel and despite the fact that FOK made this announcement, iFOK is completely autonomous from FOK.Come on guys, they wrote your charter, they announced your existence, you use their IRC channel, your name means "International FOK", you have a provision against admitting Dutch nations as that would impact their growth. I mean at least you use different forums, but really you're trying to sell the line that you guys are just allies? You can try and spin the truth any way you'd like, but those are the facts plain and simple. I may be narrow minded, if that's what you call not just accepting someone's word over the facts. FOK says their relationship is not like that. iFOK says their relationship is not like that. What do you know that both of these alliances don't about their own international relations? FOK and iFOK are different alliances, it's really that simple... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyt92 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Next time somebody asks me to leave my trade circle and join their own I should pull a topic like this. It's a blatant act of war against my nation and my allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I'd like it if all of you stopped discussing the iFOK-FOK relationship, since I believe it has nothing to do with the topic. For questions about this relationship, send me or other (i)FOK gov members a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyndicatedINC Posted October 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I can't speak for the rest of my fellow Stickmen but I don't think there is much wrong with the message we sent. If we are sending out messages next time, I don't think we will change our 'plan de campagne'. Common human decency would dictate that having this knowledge of others whom would take it as impolite, should lead you to reconsider just such a change of plans. We hold out hope that the rest of Stickmen may have just such courtesy, as Avalon holds no ill will towards Stickmen and still holds FCO in the highest possible regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timtacious Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 So you're pissed at Stickmen for not 'learning the way of the purple'? I wasnt aware they needed your approval to be purple.. Well, we'd prefer that they don't try to destroy what we've done in the past years. It appears that that's what they're trying to do They havent been protected by FOK for many months. So what if they share an IRC channel? Polaris and Pacifica do too and finally if you actually paid attention you would know iFOK does their own thing and FOK has no bearing on them at all Polaris and Pacifica share an IRC channel? Since when? Pacifica is #nsa, Polaris is #polaris. But nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Will FOK/iFOK be the new NPO/NpO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 They havent been protected by FOK for many months. Why good sir, http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Template:FOK_treaties So what if they share an IRC channel? Polaris and Pacifica do too They haven't since early July, 2008, when the Ordinance of Orders was cancelled. At that point, Polaris started using #polaris, which previously had been a private channel for Polar allies, as their public channel. Sorry to cloud the issue with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Well, we'd prefer that they don't try to destroy what we've done in the past years. It appears that that's what they're trying to doPolaris and Pacifica share an IRC channel? Since when? Pacifica is #nsa, Polaris is #polaris. But nice try. Why good sir, http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Template:FOK_treatiesThey haven't since early July, 2008, when the Ordinance of Orders was cancelled. At that point, Polaris started using #polaris, which previously had been a private channel for Polar allies, as their public channel. Sorry to cloud the issue with facts. Regardless of the timing of the change to separate channels, the fact remains that Polaris and Pacifica shared an IRC channel long after Polaris had grown into its own alliance and was no longer a protectorate of Pacifica. So, his point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 You sir are clueless about the FOK-iFOK relationship, but that doesn't surprise me one bit. FOK has as much to say about iFOK's affairs as NPO has to say about Invicta's affairs. This isn't really making your case >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) Why good sir, http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Template:FOK_treatiesSorry to cloud the issue with facts. Yes, the old "I read it on the internet so it must be true" arguement. i assure you my good sir i was with Farkistan when iFOK's protectorate was upgraded and Fark signed an MDoaP with iFOK. but yes here i go clouding the issue with facts againI've been corrected, iFOK is still a protectorate apparantly. Hey even the greatest are wrong once inawhile Also, Janax: icwutudidthar Edited October 11, 2009 by wickedj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymenbreach Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Just popped in to say Hi to the non-issue. Nothing wrong with what Stickmen did. They're not breaking trade circles or trying to split up PEACE by this action. They just want to be part of purple and have a role in purple politics. I'm sure the famous purple diplomacy that made the most war torn sphere of 2007 into one of the most united can come to an accommodation that suits everyone. Please return to your regularly scheduled non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozenrpg Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 The FOK/iFOK relationship is a lot like the OoO. Except it has a lot more wincest and a lot less backstabbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksaber Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I can understand it. If everything, including your own words didn't say otherwise. not accept who not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Next time somebody asks me to leave my trade circle and join their own I should pull a topic like this. It's a blatant act of war against my nation and my allies. This would be one of the better CBs we have seen in the last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 This would be one of the better CBs we have seen in the last couple of years. Don't you think that's more than a little ironic coming from you? I've always seen you as the quintessential Hegemony leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Will FOK/iFOK be the new NPO/NpO? Im glad Im not the only person wondering this. Now excuse me while I rudely, and tactlessly, inform both iFOK and FOK about what relationship they share. Also how is a thread about messaging nations to vote for the senate reaching 40 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiasmaCircle Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Im glad Im not the only person wondering this. Now excuse me while I rudely, and tactlessly, inform both iFOK and FOK about what relationship they share. Also how is a thread about messaging nations to vote for the senate reaching 40 pages? Can we just chalk it up to boredom and call it a thread? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Also how is a thread about messaging nations to vote for the senate reaching 40 pages? Masterpieces of eloquence such as this one: not acceptwho not There are several thoughts that come to mind when looking at such a post. But I'll reserve expressing them in this part of the OWRP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Can we just chalk it up to boredom and call it a thread?Please? I think this is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Don't you think that's more than a little ironic coming from you?I've always seen you as the quintessential Hegemony leader. You need to develop a sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think this is a good idea. Perhaps we should start a new discussion about the King of Purple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fronz Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 You need to develop a sense of humour. Everyone knows the internet is serious business. Especially when one fails to indicate when they are serious or not. I also believe that would also be a perfect note to end this thread on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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