Augustus Autumn Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well done, guys. You just took first place as far as reps demands go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octovanyo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sorry, the MCXA doesn't have its own Spy Network to feed it every other alliances plans and intel. Mhm but on the other hand neither does most alliances, or even nations, on planet bob, I wonder how they knew war was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 For the purposes of brevity in announcements that involve non-aggression or no aiding they should be unless you want us to list every single alliance we don't want you aiding. If we had to do that then MCXA would have had to wait a longer time for peace Actually I would. It's not something those of us who are out of the Klub know enough about to keep straight. Everything not hegemenony related is Karma, except when an alliance wants reps from a protectorate, then all of a sudden those alliances are radioactive and the Kollective comes out of the woodwork to proclaim 'they are not part of Karma' It is very important that this be clarified so that MCXA can stay within the guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinKiac Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Interesting.By independent you mean, 1) Suspended treaties 2) Protectorate 3) Can't accept members that surrendered 4) Full mil decom No, independant as in Im not their viceroy, they werent forced to disband, and they get to keep all of their gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sorry, the MCXA doesn't have its own Spy Network to feed it every other alliances plans and intel. You'd think you'd at least talk to your allies, since they all believed a war was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sorry, the MCXA doesn't have its own Spy Network to feed it every other alliances plans and intel. So, your Continuum allies didn't keep you updated on things? You didn't read the OWF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Well done, guys. You just took first place as far as reps demands go. Hey, what goes around come around, right? /me eyes VE and Aztec. Edited May 7, 2009 by The AUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commisar Gaunt Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I, for one, enjoy watching the tears flow in response to what are actually relatively light terms as compared to what we saw in many (most) of the previous wars Planet Bob has graciously hosted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well done, guys. You just took first place as far as reps demands go. Your reps are a larger percentage of your alliance's total compared to MCXA SSSW18 received the first non-white peace, while TSI got heavy reps as well. Technically TPF paid reps to NSO as well, but I don't really count that dollar. It's half the tech MCXA received from Polaris. I suppose the other half is probably in TSO. Boy, that Polar tech sure does get around. Edit: Given the relative size of the alliances involved, I would suggest that these reps are easier than TSI's actually. as Haflinger put quite nicely. True but he didn't say what kind of treaty just treaty in general Yes, but the treaties he named that WERE canceled on them were much heavier weighted treaties than the ones you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEd Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 oh what is this oh my it looks like MCXA canceling a treatyhttp://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...677&hl=MCXA check your facts That was April 10th, and the current war started on the 20th. ;D 10 days earlier, but yes we did cancel 2 ODP's, however, it was not due to an impending war, and to be perfectly honest the war wasn't even on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karthikking Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 o/ me o/NV o/rest of AZTEC o/VE I wanted more reps hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruvian Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Actually I would. It's not something those of us who are out of the Klub know enough about to keep straight. Everything not hegemenony related is Karma, except when an alliance wants reps from a protectorate, then all of a sudden those alliances are radioactive and the Kollective comes out of the woodwork to proclaim 'they are not part of Karma'It is very important that this be clarified so that MCXA can stay within the guidelines. I don't believe MCXA has any intention of straying out of the guidelines. Neither do we have any intention of e-lawyering any miniscule step out of line into an attack on MCXA. As I said, for the purposes of brevity take the alliances there: http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Karma_War as your definition of Karma. Also I don't understand how your example relates to this surrender thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Actually I would. It's not something those of us who are out of the Klub know enough about to keep straight. Everything not hegemenony related is Karma, except when an alliance wants reps from a protectorate, then all of a sudden those alliances are radioactive and the Kollective comes out of the woodwork to proclaim 'they are not part of Karma'It is very important that this be clarified so that MCXA can stay within the guidelines. As I have said (and you have duly ignored), MCXA need only be concerned on who is considered part of the Hegemony side of the war. The wiki answers this. Stop asking the same question over and over if you are not interested in the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octovanyo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Seriously? Clearly you have never had to replace and stabilize a entire government in 3 weeks. The treaty re-evaluation was my personal project and as the person running it I am sure i would have known. You call elections and poff government, atleast thats how we do it, maybe your way is different. But you didn't know (apparently) so what does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pd73bassman Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I just wanna say it was a great pleasure fighting alongside our great allies in AZTEC, VE, and ARES through this conflict MCXA, it was fun while it lasted, good luck in your future endeavors o/AZTEC o/ VE o/ ARES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruvian Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Hey, what goes around come around, right? /me eyes VE and Aztec. These reps are relatively light considering the size of MCXA and compared to TSI's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Oh, okay.. so mcxa wasn't one of NPOs allies and they weren't defending them either.that makes everything better now. The utter lack of reading comprehension in this post made my head hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karthikking Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I hope we made PUKE proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octovanyo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 That was April 10th, and the current war started on the 20th. ;D10 days earlier, but yes we did cancel 2 ODP's, however, it was not due to an impending war, and to be perfectly honest the war wasn't even on the radar. Where have you been? There were people sitting on IRC for a week before the war started waiting for the DoW to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karthikking Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I was one of those anxious waiters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Glad to see people getting sick of white peace! onward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEd Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Where have you been? There were people sitting on IRC for a week before the war started waiting for the DoW to show up. Sadly I don't sit on IRC 24/7. Might have been that or ermm I don't know, I might have ADD's. EDIT: No offense intended to anyone who might have ADD's, bad joke . Edited May 7, 2009 by KingEd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parandiac Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 oh what is this oh my it looks like MCXA canceling a treatyhttp://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...677&hl=MCXA check your facts one treaty we canceled. three treaties pulled out from under us. we were so active about cutting our options.I'd advise you against trolling your own surrender thread. As others have pointed out, these are extremely lenient payments that are more symbolic than anything else. 5% of your tech? That's a heck of a lot cheaper than continuing the war for another day. Have some faith that your government actually may have made the right decision today. If we wanted to follow typical hegemony surrender terms, it should've been 200k tech and either sentencing your peace mode nations to ZI or forcing them to refrain from aiding the rest of their alliance for the duration of these terms.I'd also advise you against trying to rewrite history when it's still fresh in so many peoples' minds. TSO wasn't 100% of MCXA's government, and MCXA didn't eject them. You also can't blame them for everything MCXA ever did. Further, this is about the current conflict, not the BLEU Revenge Wars. If this was about revenge and making you suffer, you'd see harsher terms. i have plenty of faith in my government. they were negotiating with what?- eight alliances to get these terms hammered out. my post wasn't about trolling, so i'm advising you to stop advising me, i guess.and more advise i don't need. TSO was a large chunk of MCXA's government. they were found out to be undermining the alliance by forming their own new alliance within MCXA. people called for their expulsion, they left. why split hairs? further, i never mentioned any other conflict, but i'll take it under advisement not to mention any petty affairs of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octovanyo Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sadly I don't sit on IRC 24/7. Might have been that or ermm I don't know, I might have ADD's. Mmmm ok then you have an excuse, that doesn't make it any less true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2e Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 You call elections and poff government, atleast thats how we do it, maybe your way is different. But you didn't know (apparently) so what does that tell you? I thought the Vox Populi had no government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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