Ackbarican Idol Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Honorable as always FOK. Best of luck to both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodemofi-NPO Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 The OP was really nice to see FOK!. Not because you cancelled but because you explained why you did. It'd be nice if the rest of the Cybeververse caught on to this trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanatos Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Very classy, very classy! o/ FOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newhotness Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Good luck FOK. Keep on keepin on and bein badass. Thanks for the honest explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Best of luck to FOK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 An interesting thing about this is that FOK have been almost universally praised for the way they put their reasoning in the OP, where as Viridia was widely condemned for doing the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newhotness Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 An interesting thing about this is that FOK have been almost universally praised for the way they put their reasoning in the OP, where as Viridia was widely condemned for doing the same thing From what i read in the VE thread, people were saying the same thing for the most part. Unless i remember it wrong, wasnt the only thing they were being condemned for was prematurely canceling one of the treaties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 An interesting thing about this is that FOK have been almost universally praised for the way they put their reasoning in the OP, where as Viridia was widely condemned for doing the same thing Plenty of people praised Viridia, the major difference was these latest announcements of cancellation havn't really had much condemnation coming into them from 1V/tC sources especially NPO itself. Also Viridia looking back seems to have been the flag bearer. When you are the vanguard you take the roughest blows but you gain the most honor, tis something for them to be proud of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I personally disagreed with Viridia's use of the "You can't quit you're fired" tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 An interesting thing about this is that FOK have been almost universally praised for the way they put their reasoning in the OP, where as Viridia was widely condemned for doing the same thing I think the difference for some was the attitude presented. FOK has been very even-handed and straightforward whereas the VE basically levied charges against their former allies and insulted them. I personally didn't have a problem with how the VE handled it and consider both of these to be similar, but I think that is why they have received differing responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I personally disagreed with Viridia's use of the "You can't quit you're fired" tactic. In regards to IRON? That is indeed what gained them the most heat. Perhaps phrased poorly but considering the other two droppings, the IRON one did go along with the announcement as a whole. They could have rephrased I suppose but its a pretty small issue compared to what that act started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I personally disagreed with Viridia's use of the "You can't quit you're fired" tactic. I can't understand because people keep saying it, VE said that IRON was who canceled the treaty, not them, VE just posted the real reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I think the difference for some was the attitude presented. FOK has been very even-handed and straightforward whereas the VE basically levied charges against their former allies and insulted them. Bingo. Good luck to both our allies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaciaut Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I think the difference for some was the attitude presented. FOK has been very even-handed and straightforward whereas the VE basically levied charges against their former allies and insulted them. I personally didn't have a problem with how the VE handled it and consider both of these to be similar, but I think that is why they have received differing responses. Insulted seems a bit harsh but you pretty much nailed it yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juslen Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) About damn time. Far too many treaties signed, that simply solidify political ties. Treaties should be signed based on friendship, respect, and trust. IMO.. many past and present treaties signed by dozens of alliances have been nothing more that PR campaigns and political positioning. The types of treaties that fall apart because nothing but words hold them together. FOK ftw Edited April 11, 2009 by juslen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graves Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 o/ our noble allies in FOK! We love you for your brains, baby <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aineshane Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Good luck to both FOK and NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animea90 Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 From what i read in the VE thread, people were saying the same thing for the most part. Unless i remember it wrong, wasnt the only thing they were being condemned for was prematurely canceling one of the treaties? If you have not noticed, NPO seems to be under radio silence. There is nobody to critisize them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think that FOK has made a very wise decision. Little to no communication, few shared values and goals makes for a poor relationship and very little basis for formal diplomatic ties. Honesty in this very public of forums is a virtue I respect immensely. FOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 An interesting thing about this is that FOK have been almost universally praised for the way they put their reasoning in the OP, where as Viridia was widely condemned for doing the same thing We don't sugar coat things wouldn't call it an insult at all though. Also there were very few condemners...literally only three names come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Specific Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Traitorous and barbaric scum. The NPO never needed you anyway. Also, congrats. B) Edited April 12, 2009 by General Specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 If you have not noticed, NPO seems to be under radio silence. There is nobody to critisize them. High ranking officials can still post under radio silence. It is just the masses that they silence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raincoat Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Sad to see alliances break up like this. Edited April 12, 2009 by raincoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) High ranking officials can still post under radio silence. It is just the masses that they silence. No one in New Pacific Order is on radio silence at the moment, besides self-induced radio silence. Good luck to FOK in the future. Edited April 12, 2009 by Bilrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 No one in New Pacific Order is on radio silence at the moment, besides self-induced radio silence.Good luck to FOK in the future. 900 people decided to simultaneously shut up? (I haven't actually taken note of Pacifica's posting frequency, but it seems like that's what you're implying) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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