TBRaiders Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Rooman, you were a 311K NS nation at the beginning of this, somewhere ranked in the top 15 of all nations. if you are going to continue to cry about being "down-declared" (this isn't TE man, nobody cares) at least quit posting about beating on nations you "down'declared" on who were 100K NS below you. MK forum is open for anyone to join now that the alliance has disbanded. All CN related posts have been archived and are available for viewing. You can see the discussion, the vote, the targets...and if that thread isn't available yet I am sure we can get someone to make it available. Two to three weeks was the plan. Whether you choose to believe it or not, doesn't change the fact it is the truth. There are some nations who just don't care anymore and will continue to reside on the MQ AA and hit whoever they want until they are destroyed or deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 My favourite part is how nobody mentioned this magical 2-3 week time period until after Mushquaeda was blown up :/ Psssh, fleeing the AA? We always intended to do that, serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Did you actually expect us to come out and tell the plan to everyone? I know you're not the brightest crayon in the box but come on... It's much funnier to have half the world shit its own pants and the other half -wrongly- speculating about what we have up our sleeve. Edited October 3, 2013 by potato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 You sure have a loud mouth for being in bill lock. Look out he'll throw a giant WoT justifying it by awesome nationbuilding next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Personally I am happy to see DBDC get hit and take some damage. They are so much bigger than everyone else if they get knocked down a peg, when the real war starts maybe they will have more than 1 round of targets before everyone is out of their range attack. So keep on nuking Roo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 My favourite part is how nobody mentioned this magical 2-3 week time period until after Mushquaeda was blown up :/ Psssh, fleeing the AA? We always intended to do that, serious. Yup, I'm sure they would have just deleted and gone away after 2-3 weeks if nobody had countered and they had put a good beating on TDO and still had their nations largely intact. And of course they'd have fled the MQ affiliation en masse at this point even if they were not getting thumped. Yup. All very logical. For sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Neutral noobs talking tough is just the contribution we need. More more more please. For the record, the damage you are doing to the mushies is irrelevant as in completely unimportant. They don't have a future. The damage they are doing to you however, now that is damage that is forever, my favourite kind of damages. Maybe you need to put that e-wang away and stop waving it around and actually sit back and evaluate both your war effort and your attitude. Your neutralness is slipping and now you just sound like every other child who doesn't get a bike for their birthday. Is the damage your allies in CCC are putting on MQ also "irrelevant as in completely unimportant"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Is the damage your allies in CCC are putting on MQ also "irrelevant as in completely unimportant"? I am sure that statement is just as relevant to CCC as it is GOP and all others attacking MQ and DBDC. Jumping on a collection of nations who, for the most part, have no issue losing their infra and have no post conflict political positioning to worry about only serves our cause. At best a few among us will be staying around to continue playing. Your alliances all have chips down on the next conflict, including the rats trying to jump the Pacifican ship (TPF). Losing hundreds of tech, thousands of infra, and a good chunk of your warchests only hurts you and your alliance down the road. The damage you do to MQ does very little to any political actor remaining in this game in the long run as the number of nations in MQ is quite unsubstantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I am sure that statement is just as relevant to CCC as it is GOP and all others attacking MQ and DBDC. Jumping on a collection of nations who, for the most part, have no issue losing their infra and have no post conflict political positioning to worry about only serves our cause. At best a few among us will be staying around to continue playing. Your alliances all have chips down on the next conflict, including the rats trying to jump the Pacifican ship (TPF). Losing hundreds of tech, thousands of infra, and a good chunk of your warchests only hurts you and your alliance down the road. The damage you do to MQ does very little to any political actor remaining in this game in the long run as the number of nations in MQ is quite unsubstantial. You way overestimate the damage you inflicted, at least in the cases I'm aware of outside of the very upper tier. My warchest for example was barely scratched by our little dust up. Hundreds of tech can be made up in a few weeks easily. Infra comes and goes, and you are well aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conistonslim Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Did you actually expect us to come out and tell the plan to everyone? I know you're not the brightest crayon in the box but come on... It's much funnier to have half the world shit its own pants and the other half -wrongly- speculating about what we have up our sleeve. There is also a part of the world that couldn't give rats ass about neutrals or what MK/MQ have up their sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) You way overestimate the damage you inflicted, at least in the cases I'm aware of outside of the very upper tier. My warchest for example was barely scratched by our little dust up. Hundreds of tech can be made up in a few weeks easily. Infra comes and goes, and you are well aware of. You lost 1000 tech, 2k land, and close to 4k infra in our dust up, bud. To get to your previous infra level, you're lookin at a pretty good investment out of your warchest and at least 3 weeks of full slot usage. Edited October 3, 2013 by tamerlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link Gaetz Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) You lost 1000 tech, 2k land, and close to 4k infra in our dust up, bud. To get to your previous infra level, you're lookin at a pretty good investment out of your warchest and at least 3 weeks of full slot usage. You were the one that referenced hundreds of tech, so I just went with it. It'll dent my warchest a little to bump the infra up, but not a big deal. Land, meh. I don't see my ability to fight the next war being impacted noticeably, but I understand you want to find solace as you get knocked down further by some good folks from FARK. Now, your warchest must be getting rather low, though I give you credit for starting to put troops out on the battlefield now. Edited October 3, 2013 by Link Gaetz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why are TPF and FARK even involved in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why are TPF and FARK even involved in this? One of the costs of challenging global stability like the shrooms did, is that the whole world can respond legitimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Vicarious Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why are TPF and FARK even involved in this? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitas Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Consider this a verbal warning to all involved in the thread to stop speaking out of character (OOC) in this in character (IC) section of the forums. This includes references to "pixels," "deleting," "playing," "the game," or even "IC posting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDRocks Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 There is also a part of the world that couldn't give rats ass about neutrals or what MK/MQ have up their sleeve. That part of the world should stay away from a thread discussing just that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conistonslim Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I appreciate the advice BDRocks but I think I will post in any thread whenever I bloody well feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why are TPF and FARK even involved in this? For the lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hime Themis Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Gentle Persons First I respect GOP for coming in to defend what they believe in. Second I respect the fighting skills of DBDC and the amount of damage they can hand out. Third Mushqueda for all the bravado displayed is not the cause of GOPs decline in NS it is DBDC. Fourth Mushqueda not DBDC posted the call to Jihad and if this was discussed on the MK forums DBDC was not part of that discussion as I doubt, having known and liked many of the DBDC members "they" were planning to delete after 2-3 weeks of war. Fifth without DBDC, Mushqueda would have been, with the alliances that came in to support TDO a wet spot on the pavement. Not because they are not good fighters or committed but most of them would have enjoyed the down declares rather than GOP. Sixth when these little forays are planned resistance is NOT expected any suggestion to the contrary is contrary to the truth. I have watched the neutral raiding that has gone on actively since last fall and even before that with the attack on Ubercon.So guys at least give the rest of us the courtesy on not suggesting we are all blind, deaf and stupid. I personally do not like what happened but it was an alliance on alliance war and we had no dog in the fight. Lastly I am rather amazed that MQ and DBDC are piddling on the GOP for doing what they themselves believe is their right, to intervene when ever and where ever they want. That last major war proved that. They seem to be enjoying the fight and you guys have always claimed to enjoy the fight so IF they wish to claim martyrdom in defense of what they believe and you want to claim a jihad against the "useless neutrals" , What’s your problem??? :blink: :wacko: :blush: :awesome: Respectfully Dame Hime Themis Edited October 3, 2013 by Hime Themis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) You were the one that referenced hundreds of tech, so I just went with it. It'll dent my warchest a little to bump the infra up, but not a big deal. Land, meh. I don't see my ability to fight the next war being impacted noticeably, but I understand you want to find solace as you get knocked down further by some good folks from FARK. Now, your warchest must be getting rather low, though I give you credit for starting to put troops out on the battlefield now. Gotta play the hand your dealt. You wouldn't know about that because your alliance has a long proud history of cowardice . Edited October 3, 2013 by tamerlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artigo Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Um, we're a 26 person alliance that entered with 3 mil NS and an avg NS of 100k. Our top tier nations were attacked by an alliance that had four top 10 nations to our zero. Those top 4 were capable of declaring 12 offensive wars - downdeclaring by about 100k NS or more on about half of our alliance. So, um yeah. That math thing is a doozy. Also, see above my comments about the whole damage dealt/damage taken thing. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. I was ranked #23 when this war began and you were in within the top #12 at least. I'm now #15 and you at #207. In what way are you winning this war and who is Loco supposed to fight if not other nations in the top 100? Last I checked he actually likes Hime Themis as a person you just tried bluffing the wrong alliance :lol1: End this non sense you are not doing any effective damage. Do I need to explain the difference between fluff damage and effective to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Gotta play the hand your dealt. You wouldn't know about that because your alliance has a long proud history of cowardice . It is well known that we've only supported NPO when they were riding high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooman33 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. I was ranked #23 when this war began and you were in within the top #12 at least. I'm now #15 and you at #207. In what way are you winning this war and who is Loco supposed to fight if not other nations in the top 100? Last I checked he actually likes Hime Themis as a person you just tried bluffing the wrong alliance :lol1: End this non sense you are not doing any effective damage. Do I need to explain the difference between fluff damage and effective to you? Your pleas for peace (however filtered through poorly composed propaganda) have been heard, and rejected. You will enjoy prolonged nuclear anarchy with the rest of us. Such is the price for attacking our AA without cause. ( <<< see that there? That's what makes our stance before you attacked our AA not a bluff ;) ) You tried picking on a neutral that fights back. Sorry, no easy tech raid for you here. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, and stop whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooman33 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Gentle Persons First I respect GOP for coming in to defend what they believe in. Second I respect the fighting skills of DBDC and the amount of damage they can hand out. Third Mushqueda for all the bravado displayed is not the cause of GOPs decline in NS it is DBDC. Fourth Mushqueda not DBDC posted the call to Jihad and if this was discussed on the MK forums DBDC was not part of that discussion as I doubt, having known and liked many of the DBDC members "they" were planning to delete after 2-3 weeks of war. Fifth without DBDC, Mushqueda would have been, with the alliances that came in to support TDO a wet spot on the pavement. Not because they are not good fighters or committed but most of them would have enjoyed the down declares rather than GOP. Sixth when these little forays are planned resistance is NOT expected any suggestion to the contrary is contrary to the truth. I have watched the neutral raiding that has gone on actively since last fall and even before that with the attack on Ubercon.So guys at least give the rest of us the courtesy on not suggesting we are all blind, deaf and stupid. I personally do not like what happened but it was an alliance on alliance war and we had no dog in the fight. Lastly I am rather amazed that MQ and DBDC are piddling on the GOP for doing what they themselves believe is their right, to intervene when ever and where ever they want. That last major war proved that. They seem to be enjoying the fight and you guys have always claimed to enjoy the fight so IF they wish to claim martyrdom in defense of what they believe and you want to claim a jihad against the "useless neutrals" , What’s your problem??? :blink: :wacko: :blush: :awesome: Respectfully Dame Hime Themis o/ Well said my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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