Schad Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Is quasi-neutral another word for "we want to be able to attack you, but not be attacked by anybody"? Incompetence isn't an excuse. Also, their treaty with VE is a non-issue. They attacked us, not the other way around. You like adding meaningless things to your arguments, don't you? Quasi-neutral is the category that was often applied to GOP in recognition that they were not purely neutral. Here's [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/85436-dont-tread-on-me/]the announcement thread of the policy[/url], which rather clearly spells out their approach to situations such as this: And, no, this is not a violation of our neutrality. Neutrality requires that we not align ourselves with other alliances or individuals - which we do not do. Irrespective of who does or doesn't join our cause, when our way of life comes under attack, we reserve the right to defend. We call this soft(line) neutrality. OOC: Instead of aligning ourselves to Alliances (which are in a constant state of flux relative to who's in the membership and/or leadership) using treaties (which usually aren't worth the pixels they're written on), we've aligned ourselves to aspects of the game (which are ever-lasting and totally independent of which other alliances do what).IC: Ours is a different brand of neutrality. If you're trying to understand it relative to the way the GPA or GC apply their own brands, you're not going to get it. As for the VE protectorate, it matters simply because you'd have thought that, in all the time people have been mulling over the rolling of neutrals in periods of intense boredom (so, always) that someone would have remembered this particular twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) "WE'RE GOING TO NEUTRAL THE #/@^ OUT OF YOU!" Edited September 23, 2013 by USMC123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 That's not what it means at all, and if you read the several posts that state exactly why we're declaring war, you might understand. As much as I like TDO, if this war had been brought to them due to their faults, we would not be entering. Our sovereignty was threatened. On top of that, it was stated that more neutral alliances would be declared on. We felt it necessary to engage you to get rid of that threat. What's the matter? You don't like war? I really like the GPA. I have some great friends that are in the GPA. My members that are fighting probably wouldn't be a good fit there. :huh: You're really stretching there, bro. Pre-emptive strike then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalTrevor Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 So bad you can't even be neutral properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 So bad you can't even be neutral properly. That is an amusing remark coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 That is an amusing remark coming from you. Known neutral MagicalTrevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Known neutral MagicalTrevor. Known member of an alliance that claims to be disbanded but can't seem to find it's way off it's AA except to MQ, MagicalTrevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) TL;DR: Waaaah neutral alliances are supposed to just sit there and not take the initiative... Edited September 24, 2013 by Tywin Lannister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooman33 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 TL;DR: Waaaah neutral alliances are supposed to just sit there and not take the initiative... Yeah, I think you've summed up the general tone and tenor of those who seem to have a problem with our involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Known member of an alliance that claims to be disbanded but can't seem to find it's way off it's AA except to MQ, MagicalTrevor. He didn't get off the MK AA except when he did 8 days ago (and has been off the MK AA since)? Is that what you're REALLY trying to go for? EDIT: if you're talking about the people still on the MK AA then maybe you could talk to them instead of shouting like a baby, throwing your toys out of the pram, because people aren't doing what you would do? Edited September 24, 2013 by potato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 He didn't get off the MK AA except when he did 8 days ago (and has been off the MK AA since)? Is that what you're REALLY trying to go for? EDIT: if you're talking about the people still on the MK AA then maybe you could talk to them instead of shouting like a baby, throwing your toys out of the pram, because people aren't doing what you would do? It's not about what I would do. I and many others however are taking notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It's not about what I would do. I and many others however are taking notes. Notes?! Oh no. Not notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumo 845 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Oh please, no more dolphins pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It's not about what I would do. I and many others however are taking notes. There is a very special place where you and others can stick your notebooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TBRaiders Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 It's not about what I would do. I and many others however are taking notes. Who is supposed to be impressed by that. Certainly not anyone who has fought you before and had to watch you launch CMs from the turtle position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Who is supposed to be impressed by that. Certainly not anyone who has fought you before and had to watch you launch CMs from the turtle position. I use whatever tactics are most effective in a given situation, including grabbing a foxhole. Of course if you are a big war hero constantly down declaring on people at the bottom of your range and you are disappointed by the amount of resistance you are encountering, you might actually try fighting nations that are more closely matched to your NS. I know that doesn't guarantee an easy victory for you, but at least you can stop whining so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayloj7 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 rabbit holes >> foxholes in all situations :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBRaiders Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I use whatever tactics are most effective in a given situation, including grabbing a foxhole. Of course if you are a big war hero constantly down declaring on people at the bottom of your range and you are disappointed by the amount of resistance you are encountering, you might actually try fighting nations that are more closely matched to your NS. I know that doesn't guarantee an easy victory for you, but at least you can stop whining so much. Funny, but don't rewrite history. You had 7K more infra than me when I declared and you were a below average fighter. I just fought 3 nations with 8K, 10K, and 13k more infra than me and two of them had more tech. You run your mouth a lot and most of it sounds like a lot of crying to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Funny, but don't rewrite history. You had 7K more infra than me when I declared and you were a below average fighter. I just fought 3 nations with 8K, 10K, and 13k more infra than me and two of them had more tech. You run your mouth a lot and most of it sounds like a lot of crying to me. You are leaving out huge chunks of the story, but that is to be expected. You weren't the only one I was fighting and not even close to the largest. It's entirely possible you didn't get my best. So what? You mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubaQuerida Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 You are leaving out huge chunks of the story, but that is to be expected. You weren't the only one I was fighting and not even close to the largest. It's entirely possible you didn't get my best. So what? You mad? So much hate, not enough love. Please stay on topic or take this to PM, making this hard to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Who is supposed to be impressed by that. Certainly not anyone who has fought you before and had to watch you launch CMs from the turtle position. I could easily post anti MQ propaganda with the turtling that happened against me, we've all been around here for far too many years to get into peace mode, turtling, or any of those levels of debating, not to mention single nations meaning pretty much nothing with very few exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalTrevor Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Known member of an alliance that claims to be disbanded but can't seem to find it's way off it's AA except to MQ, MagicalTrevor.How can you consistently be so dumb? Edited September 25, 2013 by MagicalTrevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBRaiders Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I could easily post anti MQ propaganda with the turtling that happened against me, we've all been around here for far too many years to get into peace mode, turtling, or any of those levels of debating, not to mention single nations meaning pretty much nothing with very few exceptions. The difference is those guys who do turtle don't come on here talking tough. It is a valid tactic depending on your enemy and current situation and I don't have a problem with people doing it but don't go around talking crap. Also, I just like to remind chairmanhal that he started turtling 4 days into a global war. 4 days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 How can you consistently be so dumb? If that's the best you've got for a come back, go back to school. The difference is those guys who do turtle don't come on here talking tough. It is a valid tactic depending on your enemy and current situation and I don't have a problem with people doing it but don't go around talking crap. Also, I just like to remind chairmanhal that he started turtling 4 days into a global war. 4 days... It's almost like some larger nation was pounding the crap out of me and you just weren't that important... Sorry kid, I know you like to measure your e-peen with a yardstick and all, but your comrade was doing a damn fine job of wiping me off the planet--certainly better than you were. I also seem to recall that I was allowing one of my comrades who had more tech nuke you, so really if I wasn't throwing much in your direction, there was a damn good reason. Now...don't you have a deletion to plan to something? Yours I mean of course. That's what all good Mushies do when they are faithful right? Or are you still claiming to be one of those BSDMDBDH types? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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