Fyfe XIV Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The poll says it all. How do you think the treaty web will be looking after this war? For bonus points, throw in some treaties you think will be cancelled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdur Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 DT-Sparta. I think. NoR and Sparta perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyt92 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Sparta left out to dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 40+ is a little over the top, but I certainly do expect plenty to go down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyfe XIV Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1295851499' post='2596081'] 40+ is a little over the top, but I certainly do expect plenty to go down the drain. [/quote] One can only hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 After Gondor's shameless abandonment of tLW, I certainly hope that the Oath of Eorl is torn up and baked into Lembas Bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsukage Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1295851919' post='2596108'] After Gondor's shameless abandonment of tLW, I certainly hope that the Oath of Eorl is torn up and baked into Lembas Bread. [/quote] Now wouldn't you like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Picked 0-10, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it on the upper end of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I could easily see upwards of 3 or more withdraws from NOIR relating to tensions from the Sparta bit amongst other things, and while I suspect there will be some serious jockeying going on (particularly amongst the alliances that get beat up the worst), it's tough to place a good guess a number. The 'sides' in this war are more convoluted than ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAAAAAAAAAGGGG Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Guessing 10-20, but it'll be hard to tell, especially since a lot of alliances do treaty cancellations silently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinite Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corrupt Teacher Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well considering Athens is fighting on a different side than IAA, GATO, and TIO I'd say there might be a decent amount (jk) I can say though I doubt THL will have many treaties after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I'm guessing 15-30 new treaties will be signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime minister Johns Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) I would guess that between 10-20 treaties will be canceled after the war. People need to make treaties they intend to honor, instead of signing treaties for the sake of having a lot of treaties. Personally I think that an alliance could get by with one bloc treaty and perhaps a couple of protectorate treaties with smaller alliances they are protecting. Having an alliance in multiple blocs is a recipe for disaster since if those blocs go to war then that alliance will have to choose one and attack the other(s). (they could chose to honor none, but why would anyone want them in a bloc afterward if they are not going to fight when things get tough) I would like to see a streamlined treaty web with fewer, yet more significant treaties. Edited January 24, 2011 by Prime minister Johns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I don't see a ton being canceled directly after the war but I can see 10+ getting canceled down the road as a result of this war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I think anyone with ties to The Hanseatic League will either break those bonds or risk looking like complete idiots. (Note: This does not apply to THL allies who already look like complete idiots. *cough* TGE *cough*) While I have no influence over the development of such a process, I think it is safe to say that several NOIR signatories will re-examine their ties to this so-called 'bloc'. I said so even before Sparta decided to attack Nueva Vida. I am optimistic that many alliances will subject all of their treaties to a bit more scrutiny, once they realize the extent to which they were taken for a ride during this war. (Some of us have known where this war was headed since Day One. I'm curious to see what the world's reaction will be when it becomes more widely known just how many alliances were treated as pawns by their erstwhile allies.) Many alliances have seen allies fighting on both sides of this war or, perhaps worse, electing to stay out altogether rather than defend treaty partners. Similarly, at least one alliance that declared its neutrality (to treaty partners, in private, citing conflicting interests) broke its pledge in a rather spectacular fashion. Taken all together, these various factors ought to produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-100 cancellations at war's end. However, I'm not so naive as to think that the typical CN 'leader' -- myopic and with a memory like a goldfish -- will actually be able to pull together so many strands of thought at once. With that in mind, I would put the total number of post-war treaty cancellation that are somehow tied to this war....oh, I'd say somewhere around 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Good. More cancellations, the merrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantanX Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 probably 20 - 30 treaties will be canceled and another 50 New treaties will be signed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I'm guessing 10-20 with 10-20 new ones signed as the winning side go on a mutual back-patting frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandnerd Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='gantanX' timestamp='1295863354' post='2596355'] probably 20 - 30 treaties will be canceled and another 50 New treaties will be signed.. [/quote] i wouldnt put the numbers quite that high, but yea. 10-15 treaties canceled, but the same number of treaties made. maybe a few more made then lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRena Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Every single treaty will be cancled and alliances will start all over again finding them. Well, actually probably only 10 - 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land of True Israel Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I had to choose 0-10. I do not think that much will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It depends on how exactly you define it. Almost directly as a result of this war? 5-10 Where this war sets the stage for others to move apart and cancel in the long term? More than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Horror Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Hopefully over 100.[quote name='Prime minister Johns' timestamp='1295856508' post='2596256'] I would guess that between 10-20 treaties will be canceled after the war. People need to make treaties they intend to honor, instead of signing treaties for the sake of having a lot of treaties. Personally I think that an alliance could get by with one bloc treaty and perhaps a couple of protectorate treaties with smaller alliances they are protecting. I would like to see a streamlined treaty web with fewer, yet more significant treaties. [/quote]This is very easy to say, when your alliance has a stated policy of doing literally nothing. [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1295860686' post='2596319']While I have no influence over the development of such a process, I think it is safe to say that several NOIR signatories will re-examine their ties to this so-called 'bloc'. I said so even before Sparta decided to attack Nueva Vida.[/quote]It's primarily an economic bloc, and I was very glad for it when I was in Umbrella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1295866675' post='2596389'] Hopefully over 100.This is very easy to say, when your alliance has a stated policy of doing literally nothing. It's primarily an economic bloc, and I was very glad for it when I was in Umbrella. [/quote] Not so much. It was mainly about preventing black team alliances from opposing each other and giving help when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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