DerekJones Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 [quote name='Byron Orpheus' date='03 March 2010 - 12:48 AM' timestamp='1267599116' post='2212402'] Let them hang on to whatever fanciful notions make them feel better about themselves. The revisionist history may fill them with confidence, but there are few alliances that can match GGA's longevity. [/quote] Revisionist history is something funny to mention from someone who rolls with people that compare your coup to that of the coup of Prodigal Chieftain, and portray Jonathan Brookbank as some kind of freedom fighter. Something that has kind of irritated me about the recent themes of announcements and CN wiki entries from this version of the Grand Global Alliance (such as this announcemnt) is the portrayal of your devotion towards the green team, and how the past leaders of the Grand Global Alliance were oppressive to green. Look back at your history and remember which of your current leaders did nothing to stop a Grand Global Alliance monopoly on green that you guys retrospectively speak out against (hint: it was Brookbank). Also remember who ended Dilrow and helped establish the United Jungle Accords (hint: Myself, Sognatore, Bilrow, etc.). Just bear that in mind every time you write about your devotion to green and our oppression on it. That being said, I wish a happy birthday to the Grand Global Alliance. Even though this alliance only carries the name Grand Global Alliance and not its history, it's nice to remember the old alliance that a lot of us put a good deal of time and effort into on what would have been its fourth birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Congratulations my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildeKaard Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 [quote name='DerekJones' date='03 March 2010 - 11:18 AM' timestamp='1267644139' post='2212857'] Revisionist history is something funny to mention from someone who rolls with people that compare your coup to that of the coup of Prodigal Chieftain, and portray Jonathan Brookbank as some kind of freedom fighter. Something that has kind of irritated me about the recent themes of announcements and CN wiki entries from this version of the Grand Global Alliance (such as this announcemnt) is the portrayal of your devotion towards the green team, and how the past leaders of the Grand Global Alliance were oppressive to green. Look back at your history and remember which of your current leaders did nothing to stop a Grand Global Alliance monopoly on green that you guys retrospectively speak out against (hint: it was Brookbank). Also remember who ended Dilrow and helped establish the United Jungle Accords (hint: Myself, Sognatore, Bilrow, etc.). Just bear that in mind every time you write about your devotion to green and our oppression on it. That being said, I wish a happy birthday to the Grand Global Alliance. Even though this alliance only carries the name Grand Global Alliance and not its history, it's nice to remember the old alliance that a lot of us put a good deal of time and effort into on what would have been its fourth birthday. [/quote] DJ, good to see you my friend. It brings back memories. History will always be in the realm of the subjective as it can be events can be bent and re-interpreted to fit the agenda of the one citing it. I have nothing against what you say except in regards to "this alliance only carries the name Grand Global Alliance and not its history." I will have to respectfully disagree as there are those of us who have remained during the many different iterations of the Grand Alliance and have found a home there despite the ebb and flow of personalities and power struggles at the top. We are the member nations of the Grand Global Alliance and as such we carry its history. Thank you for the time and tremendous effort that you put in during your tenure as a leader. You will always be, in my book, one of the pivotal ones. I happen to share the same birthday as the my GGA, and I wish us both another bright year ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewPoseidon Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 The GGA will always be around, even if it falls into obscurity. Happy 4th GGA. I baked a cake, but I think the global radiation level must've screwed up the recipe somehow: [img]http://www.coolest-birthday-cakes.com/images/green-and-yellow-curly-q-birthday-cake-47672.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='DerekJones' date='03 March 2010 - 02:18 PM' timestamp='1267644139' post='2212857'] Revisionist history is something funny to mention from someone who rolls with people that compare your coup to that of the coup of Prodigal Chieftain, and portray Jonathan Brookbank as some kind of freedom fighter. Something that has kind of irritated me about the recent themes of announcements and CN wiki entries from this version of the Grand Global Alliance (such as this announcemnt) is the portrayal of your devotion towards the green team, and how the past leaders of the Grand Global Alliance were oppressive to green. Look back at your history and remember which of your current leaders did nothing to stop a Grand Global Alliance monopoly on green that you guys retrospectively speak out against (hint: it was Brookbank). Also remember who ended Dilrow and helped establish the United Jungle Accords (hint: Myself, Sognatore, Bilrow, etc.). Just bear that in mind every time you write about your devotion to green and our oppression on it. That being said, I wish a happy birthday to the Grand Global Alliance. Even though this alliance only carries the name Grand Global Alliance and not its history, it's nice to remember the old alliance that a lot of us put a good deal of time and effort into on what would have been its fourth birthday. [/quote] I'd rather not clutter up this announcement of a happy occasion, but I have to correct you on your blatantly false statement here. First, I was not even a Triumvir at the time of the Emerald Affairs. I was still Chancellor. Second, the Emerald Affairs were Bilrow's idea, something I said I didn't like, and only let them put my name on it begrudgingly. I have since made amends with all parties involved in that situation, including being a major player in bringing VE back from the dead. Your constant attempts to smear me with lies and false statements are humorous, but you should really grow up and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJones Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' date='03 March 2010 - 06:35 PM' timestamp='1267663151' post='2213128'] I'd rather not clutter up this announcement of a happy occasion, but I have to correct you on your blatantly false statement here. First, I was not even a Triumvir at the time of the Emerald Affairs. I was still Chancellor. Second, the Emerald Affairs were Bilrow's idea, something I said I didn't like, and only let them put my name on it begrudgingly. I have since made amends with all parties involved in that situation, including being a major player in bringing VE back from the dead. Your constant attempts to smear me with lies and false statements are humorous, but you should really grow up and move on. [/quote] Reread what I wrote, I never said you started the Emerald Affairs. What I did allude to was the fact that your new alliance has taken the position in its announcements such as this one and in the Grand Global Alliance's wiki entry that the Grand Global Alliance has made mistakes when it came to handling the green team. I personally take offensive because, as a Triumvir, you did not work to put an end to Dilrow, you did not help create the United Jungle Accords, yet you play pick-and-choose with your history as well as the history of other Triumvirs. Essentially, I feel as though you've labelled former leaders of the Grand Global Alliance as oppressive to green, and tarnished my reputation as well as the reputations of my colleagues who helped conceptualize the United Jungle Accords as well as end Dilrow, neither of which you were a part of. If you've made amends with green team alliances, that's great for you, but don't continue to portray past leadership negatively in announcements like these without also acknowledging the fact that you play a very significant role in history that you want to separate from this new Grand Global Alliance. As a former Triumvir, you hold as much responsibility as I do for the Emerald Affairs. Regardless of whether or not either of us was for it or against it, one of us did a lot of meaningless talking about how much they were against it, and one of us actually did something to make amends. Keep that in mind when you label the rest of us as oppressive. Edited March 4, 2010 by DerekJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilrow Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' date='03 March 2010 - 06:35 PM' timestamp='1267663151' post='2213128'] I'd rather not clutter up this announcement of a happy occasion, but I have to correct you on your blatantly false statement here. First, I was not even a Triumvir at the time of the Emerald Affairs. I was still Chancellor. Second, the Emerald Affairs were Bilrow's idea, something I said I didn't like, and only let them put my name on it begrudgingly. I have since made amends with all parties involved in that situation, including being a major player in bringing VE back from the dead. Your constant attempts to smear me with lies and false statements are humorous, but you should really grow up and move on. [/quote] And actually reviewing the logs you never voice any concern to the attacks on VE/CIS/NTO. As soon as I get the approval of the few remaining people around who was in the conversation, I am releasing the full logs. Happy Birthday GGA. Edited March 4, 2010 by Bilrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJones Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Bilrow' date='03 March 2010 - 11:06 PM' timestamp='1267679424' post='2213405'] And actually reviewing the logs you never voice any concern to the attacks on VE/CIS/NTO. As soon as I get the approval of the few remaining people around who was in the conversation, I am releasing the full logs. Happy Birthday GGA. [/quote] Oh yeah thanks for reminding me. I forgot those logs were posted to the old GGA forums! [quote]<Bilrow[GGA]> The only thing GGA is remember for... [00:34] <Bilrow[GGA]> is bringing down CNARGF [00:35] <Bilrow[GGA]> CNARF [00:35] <Bilrow[GGA]> and that was unapproved action by the alliance [00:35] <KevintheGreat> ald, we can continue on as we have, which is fine [00:35] <KevintheGreat> but boring [00:35] <Bilrow[GGA]> but it was just brought up the other day the forums [00:35] <Bilrow[GGA]> and we were mentioned as being the reason CNARF was disbaded [00:35] <KevintheGreat> i want to gamble on something again [00:35] <Bilrow[GGA]> otherwise people don't pay attention and we are invisible [00:36] <ALdbeign> again...better PR [00:36] <KevintheGreat> i really don't mind being the villan [00:36] <KevintheGreat> bad guys have more fun [00:36] <ALdbeign> i know kev... i know :P [00:36] <KevintheGreat> lol [00:36] <Bilrow[GGA]> :P [00:36] <KevintheGreat> but do you get where i'm coming from? [00:37] <Lester[GGA]> The only concern i would have with this is how we will fund such an action. [00:37] <Bilrow[GGA]> We have good pr... [00:37] <KevintheGreat> i want some action, and action that can improve our poisition is a double bonus [00:37] <Bilrow[GGA]> we are viewed like the boy next door [00:37] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> :o LESTER SPEAKS! [00:37] <Lester[GGA]> :) [00:37] <Bilrow[GGA]> and the boy next door never gets the girl [00:37] <Lester[GGA]> Bil woke me up [00:38] <KevintheGreat> lol [00:38] <Bilrow[GGA]> we are play by all the rules [00:38] <ALdbeign> i think we should engage in a heavey recruitment from these two bi alliances [00:38] <ALdbeign> *two bit [00:38] <Bilrow[GGA]> we dot our is and cross our ts [00:38] <ALdbeign> and if one of them gets pissy about it [00:38] <Bilrow[GGA]> but yet it never gets us anything [00:38] <Bilrow[GGA]> except no date to the dance [00:38] <ALdbeign> umm we are a sanctioned alliance still [00:38] <KevintheGreat> we aren't a superpower [00:39] <ALdbeign> we could have less members and a higher average and we would be higher on the ratings [00:39] <KevintheGreat> if we could edge out the competition for green recruits, we could easily become one [00:39] <Bilrow[GGA]> for example... [00:39] <Lester[GGA]> we are a hell of alot more super than we were when i joined though. [00:39] <Bilrow[GGA]> NTO is on Green Team.... [00:39] <Bilrow[GGA]> they are all old /b/ members [00:39] <KevintheGreat> i want to start a sort of monroe doctrine type deal in green [00:39] <Bilrow[GGA]> easy casus belli to attack them [00:39] <KevintheGreat> while whittling away at the smaller green alliances [00:39] <Bilrow[GGA]> I am surprised VE hasn't done it yet [b][00:40] <ALdbeign> lets hit VE [00:40] <KevintheGreat> O_o [00:40] <Bilrow[GGA]> We want to [00:40] <KevintheGreat> i never thought i'd see you say that [00:40] <Bilrow[GGA]> omg [00:40] * Bilrow[GGA] falls over dead. [00:40] * KevintheGreat falls over dead-er [00:40] <ALdbeign> id rather see that than beating on n00bs [00:40] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> well.. VE does deserve it ... or at the very least CIS... [00:40] <Bilrow[GGA]> omg [00:40] <ALdbeign> CIS is an issue also [00:41] <Bilrow[GGA]> well we were playing the wrong angle then Kevin [00:41] <Bilrow[GGA]> we take our VE and CIS first [00:41] <Bilrow[GGA]> forget the little alliance [00:41] <Bilrow[GGA]> ;p [00:41] <ALdbeign> but the rality is...you recruit through fear and you have spies out the yinyanf [00:41] <ALdbeign> *yinyang [00:41] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> / confused [00:41] * Bilrow[GGA] sigs ALdbeign. [00:41] <Bilrow[GGA]> [00:40] <ALdbeign> lets hit VE [00:42] <Bilrow[GGA]> that is so siggable [00:42] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> how so on the fear and spies? [00:43] <KevintheGreat> i don't propose recruiting on fear [00:43] <ALdbeign> but kevin yes you do [00:43] <KevintheGreat> i just want to eliminate the other options [00:43] <ALdbeign> join another green alliance besides GGA and you will get attacked[/b] [00:43] <Lester[GGA]> we have done realy well keeping spies out so far because the only deciesions are made right here and never realy posted for all to see. [00:43] <ALdbeign> well [00:43] <Bilrow[GGA]> I don't think, I think, ALdbeign is saying we should spy [00:43] <Bilrow[GGA]> <_< [00:43] <ALdbeign> the thing is we will recruit these people from their dinky alliance we destroyed [00:44] <Lester[GGA]> lol [00:44] * Bilrow[GGA] is confused too. [00:44] * Bilrow[GGA] sits by BoT. [00:44] <ALdbeign> they will secretly be looking for a way to get even [00:44] <KevintheGreat> i'm not particularly wanting to go after their current members [00:44] <ALdbeign> sure its not like AE where they can collect base locations or w/e [00:44] <KevintheGreat> if we can get them to leave green, that would be wonderful [00:45] <KevintheGreat> i want the future recruits [00:45] <ALdbeign> and that increases our recruitment base how kevin>? [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> right [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> we don't want their members [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> we just want them off green [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> so that in the future any green nation created either goes GPA or GGA [00:45] <ALdbeign> meh [00:45] <KevintheGreat> everyone new that comes into green will eventually have only two options: gpa or gga [00:45] <Lester[GGA]> cis and ve will not just leave. [00:45] <KevintheGreat> that's where the initiative comes in [00:45] <KevintheGreat> they owe us [00:46] <Bilrow[GGA]> CIS and VE have pissed on Initiative enough lately... [00:46] <ALdbeign> well killing VE will do more for raising our ranks than anything else [00:46] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> Wait...Ald said to hit VE? [00:46] <Lester[GGA]> true, very true. [00:46] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> O_o [00:46] <Bilrow[GGA]> but we will have trouble getting targets [00:46] * Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG] dies [00:46] <Bilrow[GGA]> if we don't call dibs on VE first [00:46] <KevintheGreat> we've taken our lumps for goons and npo, now they owe us [00:46] <ALdbeign> well [00:46] <ALdbeign> even if we dont get enough targets...they will still be gone...and fail the next audit to boot [00:46] * BearerofTruth[GGA] makes a note to release this to Rowan LMAOROFL [00:47] <Bilrow[GGA]> ROFL [00:47] <KevintheGreat> lol [00:47] <Lester[GGA]> :) [b][00:47] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> We set up the target list ourselves, assign people to the targets, and any excess we farm out to the other Ini alliances.[/b] [00:47] <ALdbeign> seriously... [00:47] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> That's how to fix that. [00:47] <ALdbeign> there we go...much better than being nazis [00:47] <Bilrow[GGA]> So that is a support to attack VE [00:47] * Bilrow[GGA] writes this date in history. [00:48] <ALdbeign> umm [00:48] <ALdbeign> im more than supporting it :P [00:48] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> he doing it right now? [00:48] <ALdbeign> and do ve and cis still have an mdp? [00:48] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL [00:48] <Bilrow[GGA]> Are you drinking? [00:48] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> No, they don't ALdbeign [00:48] <Bilrow[GGA]> No they have no treaties [00:48] <ALdbeign> am i ever NOT drinking? :P [00:48] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> They have one. [00:48] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL [00:48] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> A PIAT with TOP [00:48] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> That's it, though. [00:48] <ALdbeign> okie well thats fine [00:48] <ALdbeign> not taking both at once then [00:49] <KevintheGreat> not without initiative support [00:49] <ALdbeign> but $%&@ beating up n00bs [00:49] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> I can see how VE/CIS are within reason to be attacked by us. [00:49] * Bilrow[GGA] is so confused. [00:49] <ALdbeign> just take them out and a whole world of green recruits will be there [00:49] <Bilrow[GGA]> Is tonight opposite night. [00:49] <KevintheGreat> i believe so [00:49] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> Ald has a good point. [00:49] <Bilrow[GGA]> Yes he does. [00:50] <Bilrow[GGA]> I can see that point. [00:50] <Bilrow[GGA]> but can we throw in the scum from /b/ [00:50] <Bilrow[GGA]> that is in NTO [00:50] <ALdbeign> sure [00:50] <Lester[GGA]> hopefully with VE/CIS out of the way or atleast being remomed will sway the smaller ones to vacate. [00:50] <Bilrow[GGA]> that posted all the child porno [00:50] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> ethnic cleansing... bad bad bad PR and self concious.... [00:50] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> Wait...Aldbeign and BearerofTruth[GGA] said we could attack VE? [00:50] <ALdbeign> and also [00:50] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> take out VE/CIS and stop... [00:50] <Bilrow[GGA]> NTO also BoT [00:50] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> we're doing what's right... [00:50] <KevintheGreat> i want to make green our playpen [00:50] <Bilrow[GGA]> they are all /b/ members [00:50] <KevintheGreat> evntually [00:50] <ALdbeign> we can do some spin [00:50] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> Yeah. [00:50] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> well.. [00:50] <ALdbeign> and help some of the other n00b aliances [00:50] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> NTO has the easiest Casus Belli of them all. [00:50] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> NTO ... there's a point... [00:51] <ALdbeign> the random little !@#$% [00:51] <ALdbeign> to show we arent trying to "cleanse" green [00:51] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> the rest will piss us off later... [00:51] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> and then maybe ... [00:51] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL [00:51] <Bilrow[GGA]> any objections to [00:51] <KevintheGreat> my final vision for green is a two alliance color, with some token alliances that we control indirectly [00:51] <ALdbeign> well, mebbe they will decide they wanna be gga [00:52] <Bilrow[GGA]> if they get more than 30 votes for a sentor without our approval [00:52] <Bilrow[GGA]> they get attacked [00:52] <Bilrow[GGA]> that way GGA and GPA can hold the senate [00:52] <ALdbeign> or what kevin said [00:52] <Bilrow[GGA]> and we don't have to worry about sanctions [00:52] <ALdbeign> token alliances we control indirectly [00:52] <ALdbeign> take out the big two competitors [00:52] <Bilrow[GGA]> I'm game... [00:52] <ALdbeign> and that /b/ group [00:53] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> there ya go... [00:53] <KevintheGreat> with VE and CIS out of the way through force, the other green alliances will know to tread VERY lightly with us [00:53] <ALdbeign> and pick a couple promising newbie alliances and make them whatever cn calls a protectorate [00:53] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> I can support all that... IT MUST BE PLANNED RIGHT THOUGH [00:53] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL ald... [00:53] <KevintheGreat> absolutly BoT [00:53] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> there called... PROTECTORATES [00:53] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL [00:53] <ALdbeign> meh we didnt have those when i still actively played [00:54] <ALdbeign> oh and if you need another 3mil sent out ill have it tomorrow [00:54] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> I have a request .... [00:54] <Bilrow[GGA]> ROFL [00:54] <KevintheGreat> yes? [00:54] <ALdbeign> as in monday ;) [00:54] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> just so I'm kept in the loop if I'm unable to log in and ask questions, though I should be able... [00:55] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> may I get a daily report in my email ? :D [00:55] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> <_< [00:55] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> once this op commences [00:55] <Bilrow[GGA]> yeah....first thing we need to do is Kevin finish the Monroe Doctrine thing... [00:55] <KevintheGreat> yeah [00:55] <Bilrow[GGA]> target lists made up for VE [00:55] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> that will also help me to the internal pr [00:55] <Bilrow[GGA]> should we do one at a time [00:55] <KevintheGreat> it's gonna have to be scrapped and reworked [00:55] <Bilrow[GGA]> or go for VE/CIS/NTO [00:56] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> well with the INI behind us... [00:56] <ALdbeign> umm the monroe doctrine was isolationist and nuetrality [00:56] <Bilrow[GGA]> We are going to call it [00:56] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> it probably doesn't matter how you take 'em [00:56] <Bilrow[GGA]> ALdbeign Doctrine [00:56] <Lester[GGA]> lol [00:56] <Bilrow[GGA]> for real [00:56] <Bilrow[GGA]> lets call it that [00:56] <Bilrow[GGA]> ;p [00:56] <ALdbeign> the GPA is more a proponent of the monroe policies [00:56] <KevintheGreat> lol nice [00:56] <ALdbeign> i will quit [00:57] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LMAO... I knew he'd say that [00:57] <Bilrow[GGA]> the BearerofTruth Doctrine [00:57] <Bilrow[GGA]> gotta make a name for him [00:57] <Bilrow[GGA]> before he retires [00:57] <ALdbeign> if kevin is writing it its his [00:57] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> um... I won't quit... but you won't like me for a long time [00:57] <Bilrow[GGA]> BearerofBilrowtheGreat Doctrine [00:57] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL [00:57] <Bilrow[GGA]> EmperorBearerofBilrowtheGreat Doctrine [00:58] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> EBBG [00:58] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> sounds like and UK music channel [00:58] <KevintheGreat> lol [00:58] <ALdbeign> EmperorBearerofBilrowsthegreatschild doctrine :P [00:59] * BearerofTruth[GGA] 's brain explodes [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> time for bed... [00:59] <Bilrow[GGA]> ROFL [00:59] <KevintheGreat> lol nice [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> I catch up on the warmongering tommorrow... [00:59] <Lester[GGA]> LABBK BBLAK KLABB [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> good luck with the planning.. [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> oh... [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> Lester.... [00:59] <ALdbeign> cya BoT [b][00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> what's your vote? [00:59] <Lester[GGA]> I [00:59] <Bilrow[GGA]> I vote for it [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> Bil is obviously and AYE [00:59] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> LOL [01:00] <KevintheGreat> you know how i vote [01:00] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> ON VE CIS TTO(or whoever they are) [01:00] <Bilrow[GGA]> of course I am still so confused... [01:00] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> no one else [01:00] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> and I vote. [01:00] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> aye [01:00] <KevintheGreat> me and bil don't know what the $%&@ just happened [01:00] <Bilrow[GGA]> I know. [01:00] <Bilrow[GGA]> Now lester is going to get hippy on us [01:00] <KevintheGreat> i think our months of warmongering have finally worn off on you guys [01:01] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> What the hell just happened? [01:01] * Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG] is confused [01:01] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> You guys went nuts or something? [01:01] <Lester[GGA]> we just had a unanimus vote didnt we? [01:01] <Bilrow[GGA]> yep [01:01] <KevintheGreat> looks like it [01:01] <KevintheGreat> on condition that we plan this out 100%[/b] [01:01] <Bilrow[GGA]> Jonathan I am confused... [01:01] <Bilrow[GGA]> hold me [01:01] * Bilrow[GGA] sobs. [01:01] * KevintheGreat rocks back and forth in the corner [01:01] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> and... VE CIS and those /b/ people... [01:02] <Bilrow[GGA]> and BoT gets daily emails [01:02] <Bilrow[GGA]> about the progress [01:02] <Lester[GGA]> Is that what we just voted on? <-- BoT getting emails? [01:02] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> are the only ones taken out [01:02] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> oh yes... that tooo [01:02] <Lester[GGA]> :) [01:02] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> ROFL [01:03] * BearerofTruth[GGA] cries from laughter [01:03] * Bilrow[GGA] sobs uncontrollablly. [01:03] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> I think bil and ktg are going to be catonic for the next 2 months [01:03] * Lester[GGA] hands Bilrow a binky. [01:03] <Bilrow[GGA]> Thank you. [01:04] <Bilrow[GGA]> I can retire a happy Triumvirate. [01:04] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> b/c of the binky!? [01:04] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> damn... [01:04] <Lester[GGA]> lol [01:04] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> if I would have known it was that easy [01:04] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> I could have pleasured you a long time ago [01:04] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> <_< [01:04] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> >_> [01:04] <KevintheGreat> hawt [01:04] <Lester[GGA]> lol [01:04] <Lester[GGA]> night all. [01:05] <Lester[GGA]> sleepy time for this old man. [01:05] <KevintheGreat> g'night [01:05] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> night lester [01:05] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> night [01:05] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> same here.. I'm out... be careful guys... please don't help me regret the decision to AYE on this one. [01:05] <BearerofTruth[GGA]> although I have great faith in you :D [01:05] <KevintheGreat> you won't [01:05] <KevintheGreat> we will make this airtight before we go through with it [01:06] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> Yeah. [01:06] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> I don't want to become a Triumvir of a broken alliance. [01:06] * Lester[GGA] is now known as Lester[GGA]|zzz [01:06] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> So I won't let them mess it up. [01:06] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> :P[/quote] The wonderful thing about history is that it can often speak for itself. Can't seem to find you protesting anything when the discussions came up. Sorry! Edited March 4, 2010 by DerekJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementual Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 All I pretty much got from those logs was that the Emerald Affairs were started out of nowhere and in a windstorm of "what the hell just happened?" I'm also missing their relevancy. I'm also missing the reasoning behind attempting to stir controversy in my alliance's birthday announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thanks for those logs Mr. Jones. My, how the tables turn. Happy birthday GGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJones Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Dementual' date='03 March 2010 - 11:54 PM' timestamp='1267682292' post='2213469'] All I pretty much got from those logs was that the Emerald Affairs were started out of nowhere and in a windstorm of "what the hell just happened?" I'm also missing their relevancy. I'm also missing the reasoning behind attempting to stir controversy in my alliance's birthday announcement. [/quote] I'll explain it for you if you don't care to read or follow what's been going on. I decided to post about how you guys keep positioning yourselves as wanting to save green and criticizing past Grand Global Alliance leaders for hurting green, I called Jonathan out on it saying he really doesn't have room to talk, he said something blatantly untrue about how he voiced his opinions against it, then I stole Bilrow's idea of posting logs from the conversations of the war showing how he's completely inaccurate. Hopefully that tl;dr helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrideAssassin Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Gratz on 4 years guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementual Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) I figured if I kept it short and polite, you might go away before the cake spoiled. What you essentially did with those logs was show that the Emerald Affairs started up as a result of a random conversation that was barely a [i]half-hour long[/i] (seriously guys?), initiated by the Triumvirate at the time and grew into a vote-of-council that passed unanimously with the intention of killing the Viridian Entente. Jonathan Brookbank, being technically unable to do anything about it, mentioned that he thought the Triumvirate went nuts for all voting aye. I'm missing the part where he seemed as though he supported it. Hell, you even highlighted specifically the part where he voiced his lack-of-support. Or maybe he just [i]didn't not-support it hard enough[/i]. I'm sure that was it. Because speaking out against the leadership worked so well for everyone else in that time era. Also, it's hardly "blatantly untrue" that he voiced his lack of support, especially since the Emerald Affairs were more than a half-hour and one conversation long. I mean, up until tonight, even I thought the Triumvirate at the time actually spent at least a little while possibly considering the moral issues of killing their friends on Green. I personally was surprised to find out that it was such a quick decision. Regardless, I had more than a conversation or two with JB about the war during the time period and how much we both hated that it happened. And everyone in the alliance at the time that spoke to him knew he didn't like it. So don't even pretend like his lack of monumentally and emotionally-touching nonsupport in that single discussion reflects on his entire perspective of the war. Anyway, if you could please - the door is over there. Some people are trying to enjoy their cake. It isn't a lie for once, so to spoil this rare occasion would be indisputably the most evil thing anyone would have been proven to have done this entire evening. Edited March 4, 2010 by Dementual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King MyLife Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 And the saga continues good going everyone...Never suprises me how far this saga has gone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvengingAngel256 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Happy Birthday Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) Oh hey, we're still talking about GCW, it must be that time of the year again. Happy Birthday GGA from your green brethren!!! Edited March 4, 2010 by Smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Gratz guys, I expect to see Green getting closer in comming days . Gluck GGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virillus Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Congratulations to GGA. Those logs are very interesting. It's nice to know that all the initiative leadership were more than happy to support that kind of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 [quote name='Smooth' date='04 March 2010 - 12:44 PM' timestamp='1267724884' post='2213792'] Oh hey, we're still talking about GCW, it must be that time of the year again. Happy Birthday GGA from your green brethren!!! [/quote] Oh, just wait until we celebrate 4 years this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphanus Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Heh, this doesn't surprise me one bit. Edited March 5, 2010 by Epiphanus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcturus Jefferson Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 [quote name='Virillus' date='04 March 2010 - 07:02 PM' timestamp='1267747619' post='2214225'] Congratulations to GGA. Those logs are very interesting. It's nice to know that all the initiative leadership were more than happy to support that kind of thinking. [/quote] I think it's kind of refreshing to put the current round of honking about Hegemony into perspective. Thanks GGA, and good luck or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalopy Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 [quote name='Pingu' date='01 March 2010 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1267506419' post='2210859'] [img]http://media.cakecentral.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/627242/normal_123948641234686.JPG[/img] And in honour of theblitz's ODN origins, an orange cake too: [img]http://www.pinkcakebox.com/images/cake787.jpg[/img] [/quote] Hey, don't disown PC, he was also a member of the ODN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypoNinja Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 [quote name='Virillus' date='04 March 2010 - 07:02 PM' timestamp='1267747619' post='2214225'] Congratulations to GGA. Those logs are very interesting. It's nice to know that all the initiative leadership were more than happy to support that kind of thinking. [/quote] Until now I never had anything solid about motive, sure I could speculate, but all it was was speculation. Now all I can do is point at laugh, [quote][00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> right [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> we don't want their members [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> we just want them off green [00:45] <Bilrow[GGA]> so that in the future any green nation created either goes GPA or GGA[/quote] You thought that would work? I could have told you it wouldn't work out that way from the start, and there's proof. Back then green was the largest team, 450 votes for 3rd place in the senate while most other teams controlled theirs with 100 or less. You know what green had? The same thing that got it the nickname of "the jungle" Multiple viable alliances. It is the diversity of The Jungle that made it strong. A look at CN now shows this to be true, what teams are doing the best? Black, Aqua, Blue. The teams with large numbers of resident alliances. What teams doing the worst? Red, Brown, Yellow, Pink. The teams with few alliances. Planet Bob shows the human condition here, the reason for these trends is obvious to anyone who cares to look, people are different and will find homes in different places. Your idiocy was doomed from the start, but you didn't even have a good excuse for it. You thought it would get you more recruits. I gave you more credit than you deserved clearly. I always thought you saw NPO owning red, GOONS staking out black, and FAN claiming Yellow, and figured you wanted a piece of that action. Figured you saw all the bad $@! alliances claiming colours and had to stake one out for yourself. That did seem to be where CN politics was going at the time. Surprise, instead I find out you didn't actually posses that much vision, it was just a lame attempt at recruits. However, they say the best revenge is living well, so it would seem we settled up on that account quite nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Virus Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Read this: [quote][01:06] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> Yeah. [01:06] <Jonathan_Brookbank[ZERG]> I don't want to become a Triumvir of a broken alliance.[/quote] Then checked your current title in GGA and laughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King MyLife Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 [quote name='Mind Virus' date='05 March 2010 - 08:04 AM' timestamp='1267794570' post='2214795'] Read this: Then checked your current title in GGA and laughed. [/quote] This soap opera get better and better every time i get on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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