Vilien Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 http://!@#$%*.com/m211d9bd9 Well, oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 http://!@#$%*.com/m211d9bd9 NSO side already won. We have ODN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well, oops. Whoever made that list is horribly out of the loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Whoever made that list is horribly out of the loop. It's always surprising to see how off some of the pre-war lists can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 NSO side already won. We have ODN. No, no - you may optionally, potentially, perhaps have ODN. If you're going to join the herd of haters, get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Moot conversation. There has been significant changes in regards to protection, which occurred a few days ago, so everyone can go ahead and stop posting sarcastic remarks and whatnot. (and no, that response on Sept 7th was the last on those boards, not in general.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar833 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Im glad im not the only one who sees that it is horribly ironic that its Bilrow of all people complaining about this. I have personal experience trying to get terms straight with him and he is god awful at it. Maybe he will change now that he has been on the other side. But thats wishful thinking i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rune Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Lower range nations are difficult to engage in the defence of another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfHoward Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I thought this was going to be sexual in nature. Highly disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I don't think swift remilitarization would be met automatically with another war. I just don't see the resolve in some corners that existed in April. Maybe that is just me. Regardless, NPO can easily have allies without pieces of paper, they are just failing to secure them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar833 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I don't think swift remilitarization would be met automatically with another war. I just don't see the resolve in some corners that existed in April. Maybe that is just me.Regardless, NPO can easily have allies without pieces of paper, they are just failing to secure them. I find this statement quite interesting and would be excited to see NPO attempt to pull it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) I don't think swift remilitarization would be met automatically with another war. I just don't see the resolve in some corners that existed in April. Maybe that is just me.Regardless, NPO can easily have allies without pieces of paper, they are just failing to secure them. They're free to try and see what happens. If they could, they would, but they are well aware that it wouldn't work. Edited November 28, 2009 by Penkala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoiL Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 <Cortath> I don't like being put in a position of defending them, becuase they're mother$%&@ers. How tasteful from an Emperor. Back in the day, this would get an entire alliance rolled. However, despite that barb, Cortath is incredibly timid and comes off as a weak, and easily influenced leader. Rather sad, really. Because private discussion and expression of opinion needs to be suppressed. These logs only highlight Karma's shortcomings. Good job Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 It doesnt simply boil down to being:a. Exactly the same as NPO or b. Exact opposite of NPO There are obviously multiple things that the NPO did that Karma will never do, such as viceroy etc and things that NPO and karma will both do. Just because a few things are being repeated does not automatically make karma as evil as the NPO, and as responsible for their actions during the 2 years of NPO enforced rule. Think about things. RoK had a viceroy over someone IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 RoK had a viceroy over someone IIRC. Correct. Hoo was a viceroy over...I think it was Bushido, but I'm probably wrong about the alliance. But it did happen and IIRC, it actually benefited them significantly in terms of getting reorganized. Fact is viceroys can be a good thing if they are done right and the subject alliance lacks sufficient members who are interested/have time to be in government and lead. To the extent that NPO took them, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Correct. Hoo was a viceroy over...I think it was Bushido, but I'm probably wrong about the alliance. But it did happen and IIRC, it actually benefited them significantly in terms of getting reorganized.Fact is viceroys can be a good thing if they are done right and the subject alliance lacks sufficient members who are interested/have time to be in government and lead. To the extent that NPO took them, not so much. Terry Howard, Illuminati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup4l33t3ki11a Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I grow ever more certain that NPO are resigning members quietly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) I grow ever more certain that NPO are resigning members quietly... Even if it is true so what? I forgot when we had to satisfy you in our internal matters. Edited November 28, 2009 by silentkiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUELINE976 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Even if it is true so what? I forgot when we had to satisfy you in our internal matters. It has to do with providing the masses with entertainment. You know the deal. It's our job, isn't it? New at 6, Fashion Faux Pas: Cortath's glittery new prom dress or Moo's ruby-red hoof slippers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Valleo Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I grow ever more certain that NPO are resigning members quietly... Well that is not rocket science, members come and go all the time. Do you lose more when in war or under terms, of course do. I am sure the NPO doesn't have the monopoly on this as I am sure it happens to most if not all alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well that is not rocket science, members come and go all the time. Do you lose more when in war or under terms, of course do. I am sure the NPO doesn't have the monopoly on this as I am sure it happens to most if not all alliances. I quietly, and sometimes not so quietly, resign people as necessary so I agree, not sure why that is a concern to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I quietly, and sometimes not so quietly, resign people as necessary so I agree, not sure why that is a concern to anyone. Well it matter as it can provided an insight into the internal health of the alliance depending on who and why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup4l33t3ki11a Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I personally believe that the alliance as a whole should decide who they do and dont want to be in the alliance. I know it is fair for the govt they elect to do this for them, but the membership should have some input... It may be impossible but i still dont like it. Sometimes governments are corupt, I have been under my fair share of those. It isnt as fun for certain members as it should be... but most of us dont give a damn as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomzoomzoom Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 This is why you just don't offer protection, but impose terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 <Cortath> I don't like being put in a position of defending them, becuase they're mother$%&@ers. How tasteful from an Emperor. Back in the day, this would get an entire alliance rolled. However, despite that barb, Cortath is incredibly timid and comes off as a weak, and easily influenced leader. Rather sad, really. ... Define a "strong leader". Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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