Lord Rune

So, I was wrong. I can live with that. There must be some other reason why you'd take pleasure in seeing if his career goes down the tubes.

We have elections up soon. We'll have to wait and see. Maybe he'll stand, maybe he won't. If he stands, maybe he'll win, maybe he won't. Or maybe we'll let someone else have a crack at it. But I don't think his career has sunk. Wishful thinking on your part, I feel. And then I ask myself, why would you feel pleasure if his career sinks. Maybe he is good at his job and you feel threatened by that in some way. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong.

This is a sticky situation we find ourselves in and it could become quite messy. Hopefully, when this is over, and both sides are exhausted we can shake hands ( maybe not such a good idea after all )

[quote name='Enamel32' timestamp='1331229746' post='2935518'] For MN to continue to display continued arrogance just goes to show how much more pathetic GATO has become since they joined CnG. [/quote] Erm, no. It does show that MN is the same as he has always been. We've tried to change him, but he is starting to like the daily beatings.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1325864595' post='2894115'] [color="#0000FF"]This one is not deserving of such an acknowledgment.[/color] [/quote] I acknowledge RV's lack of acknowledgement.

[quote name='JermaniWright' timestamp='1324758984' post='2885777'] Another Unsuccessful mission was when i worked for NADC, they wanted me to tell the world of bob about my debt in NpO, the objective was to get money but i didnt. They wanted me to tell the world i owed over 500 Million dollars to various alliances during my time on CN, soon after VE and Iron claimed I owed them 124 Million and 28 Million dollars. [/quote] How is this spying?

[quote name='JermaniWright' timestamp='1324601835' post='2884351'] . Also I really dont care if you believe me or not i just wanted to show how sorry i am. [/quote] If you were truly repentant, then you would care if you were believed.

Welcome aboard.

Why does everyone assume that people who leave and moan about an alliance, did not try to fix it before leaving? I'm not saying that that is the case here, but every time a thread such as this appears, at least one person will say "you should have stayed to fix it."

In the run up to GW3, Dewsos' post on GATO's forums where he said "I'm not calling for war" was photo-shopped into " I am calling for war" and posted on the OWF as "proof" that GATO wanted to attack NPO. That someone would make such a lie, really did shock me at the time. Being in TPF when Slayer decided to go NAZI-hunting and staying there for the war after wards. Not my proudest moment.

Yuri, what nippy is getting at is. Nation A attacks Nation B. You declare on Nation A. That is an act of war (obviously) Nation A attacks Nation B. You send money to Nation B. That is seen as an act of war too. This time though, you are in an alliance, which means that now your alliance's foreign affairs spokesmen are involved. Nemesis has rules, procedures etc. I suggest you read them, and establish their policy towards the kind of behaviour you are suggesting.

People will continue to argue the rightness or wrongness of a CB in an attempt to persuade others. Not those with whom they are fighting so much, though they may persuade one or two to peace out or leave their respective alliances, but rather to persuade those who have yet to join in as to the merits of their cause.

[quote name='Tequila Mockingbird' timestamp='1280920284' post='2400582'] Didn't realize you guys had anyone left to elect. [/quote] There's always some[s]idiot[/s]one willing to step up.

[quote name='Voodoo Nova' timestamp='1280814670' post='2399246'] Proxies are a wonderful thing. @chillycoldlungs: That's why you have people discussing things they know nothing about like they know what is going on. [/quote] Sounds like the OWF.

Hopefully he'll be too busy now to think about becoming our emperor. Congrats.

Now this is all over, any chance of being told what Gremlins terms for IRON and DAWN would have been?

[quote name='Kevanovia' timestamp='1280564049' post='2395844'] start focusing on how to make GATO better. Also internal bickering won't solve anything either. [/quote] Internal bickering will make everything better.

[quote name='Kevlar' timestamp='1280549763' post='2395706'] When in doubt, blame Kevlar. Don't like all this blaming CK business, it's cramping my style. -Kev [/quote] Can we blame you for 5% and CK for the other 5%? (seriously, we lost 10%?)

[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1280458603' post='2394701'] [color=brown]Global Alliance and Treaty Organization[/color] fell once more to the GARO menace. This loss would've been more, but it's lessened by war preparations from the leading alliance on brown against their renegade splinter. [/quote] There go our hopes of a sneak attack!

[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1280260318' post='2391512'] The fact that they didn't sign should say they didn't find them acceptable. [/quote] They were all for paperlessness then, so they wouldn't have signed it. They still could have voiced their dissatisfaction.

[quote name='Matthew PK' timestamp='1280256825' post='2391461'] Joining the ESA? A significant point is that the ESA as written is unacceptable; that should be clear to you. [/quote] I don't recall you expressing your dissatisfaction with them at the time of their signing. (you being Gremlins)

Colour me shocked (as you young 'uns say). I had hopes that GGA would be able to turn into something respectable, but I guess its not to be. I hope you will be happy in your new homes.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1280079945' post='2388421'] My alliance makes the raiding rules I follow not GATO none 2 is still none. [/quote] Any rules would not be GATO's, but those of any alliances that choose to defend the safe haven. Magic' is floating the idea. It isn't official GATO policy (as far as I know), nor have we discussed it.

[quote name='Michael von Prussia' date='23 July 2010 - 11:20 PM' timestamp='1279923601' post='2386622'] And if GATO protects any other microalliance, wouldn't that be the same thing? If GATO's not up for taking on protectorates, don't sign on to protect it. But if GATO has or would protect any other alliance, there's really no difference between that and this. [/quote] Don't protectorate agreements have something in them about the protected alliance helping defend the protector should the need arise? (Not sure). This agreement does not have such a clause.

[quote name='magicninja' date='23 July 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1279921874' post='2386599'] Nobody is defending "none". $%&@ "none". They are on their own. I doubt anyone puts anyone else in front of their own alliance. [/quote] If GATO became a protecting alliance of "Safe Haven", we'd be asking our member nations to defend them. Isn't that putting Safe Haven before GATO?