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My thoughts on the matter (you are free to utilize them as a basis for a CB at any time you choose, they do represent my actual thoughts). As always I am happy to be wrong.

TOP: 6 TOP are not what people think they are, they are far more switched on than that. You would have been an 8 but you insist on being friends with my only true declared hate. It will also stop us ever being friends I guess.

MHA: 5 Almost irrelevant today and I am not sure why? Maybe someone can explain.

Sparta: 4 There is so much about your alliance's dealing with mine that confuses me. I drop rocks into a pack of dogs and you bark the loudest every time whether you were even the intended target or not.. interesting.

NpO - 8 Credit is given but for all the wrong reasons usually. Stats are meaningless, look deeper. Who gives a toss how fast we rebuilt, it is only a symptom of something else far more important. Room for improvement, also short one high horse, please return if you have it.

IRON - 5 The potential is there but like us you have not had the reason to demonstrate its power.

ODN - 4 I believe you are making progress, but given your starting point, it is still a long way to go.

FARK - 6 Bacon, lots of it. It is interesting when you find out people's reasoning and realize how absurd it seems now. I like you guys.

GPA - 0 Gutless waste of space.

NPO - 6 #1 for a long long time, well supported at times, well hated at others. The road is long with many a winding turn who knows where?.

FOK - 4 meh? I don't get it. Tough by association?

MK - 8 A non-sanctioned alliance that leads the world, I want some.

WTF - 2 Name says it all really, wtf?

TOOL - 4 *no idea what to say without being offensive and I have no desire to seem so*

TDO - 0 Neutral alliances make me ill.

VE - 4 When the odds were stacked against us you allowed yourselves to be manipulated, thanks for that. (yeah that's not exactly right but ces't la vie)

Legion - 2 You are kidding right? Had a chance to change the world, tripped and fell over your own pompous $@!.

RoK - 7 Carried a lot of the load whilst others bathed in your efforts.

GATO - 3 I laugh every time I see your name these days. Laserwolf is trying hard though so I expect to see vast progress.

CSN - 3 who?

Athens - 4 Apparently we hate someone, I can find no record.

Gremlins - 7 Awesome alliance.

MCXA - 4 Could be but not quite there

UPN - 5 Friends :D

RIA - 4 You don't like me, strange concept.

STA - 9 I would send my alliance to die for yours. -1 for Tyga being a fatty

Invicta - 2 I dont care what you did and with whom to what.

RnR - 3 Still here?

MASH - 3 Still here?

NADC - 0 Couldn't find their own $@! with three grabs if it was on fire. Bought the lie and way too easily.

WAPA - 3 Still here?

NV - 7 Friends forever and ever to death does us part.

NSO - 7 Bloody weirdos.

NEW - 6 I hear good things, where there is smoke etc.

MA - 2 bleh

Umbrella - 6 So close yet so far. Whats not to like though.

FAN - 7 Outspoken, controversial, resolute, slightly gun porn mad, still here and serious mofo when it comes to war. 2-2 Game 5 is on the line.

LoSS - 2 Most aptly named alliance since wtf

TSO - 0 You disgust me and always will. One day I will see your nations turned to craters and you know it. IF you weren't hiding behind TOP's apron, I would do it now. Then we could move on.

NATO - 2 yawn

Nordreich - 1 Stay dead

GR - 7 My friends since the beginning of the beginning. I curse the day you changed leadership, glad to see it has changed again.

GOD - 4 Strange people, have hated my alliance for longer than I knew they existed. If I see one more leaked log where you mention coming over and rolling us I will burst out laughing.

FoB - 2 what?

PC - 2 I don't know what makes you tick, but I know I don't like it.

Valhalla- 5 Seriously persecuted alliance, sometimes with a good reason, often not. You would rate much higher if you could get on with my friends. I signed a treaty with you because I believed, I still do.

GGA - 2 An alliance that has hung on the fringes of power, falling over itself to be one of the boys but lacking the foresight or capability to be anything other than the third wheel. Get it together or just disband?

TPF - 5 Don't let the peanut gallery sell you too short. Just keep believing and ignore the rest.

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CSN - 5- I think you're going through some drama right now. I don't know what it is, and I just don't know enough about you to care. Good luck with it, though!

Two things come to mind . First: We're going through drama?! and secondly: You dont care about us to know about this supposed drama yet you do care enough to think we're going through drama.

to summarize: lolwut?

also

CSN - 3 who?

Hi, remember me? Yeah. stop by #csn sometime

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Because I like qualifying things, im going to outline a rating system before I start to try and provide some consistency for myself if nothing else. I know my opinion matters little but would be interesting to look back on to see how opinions change over time.

10 - Will be going to my own alliance. Biased or what have you. Wouldnt put the time in if I didnt benefit from it.

9 - The Peridot in my book. Those who command both my respect, counsel and trust in CN and outside.

6-8 - Good score; Im not overly out-reaching as a person in this game. Very introverted. So any step into this rating is done so with admiration.

5 - For those I know, and either dont know what to make of them or have specifically chosen the fence to watch from afar.

4 - Not favourable; Done something that I have consciously ticked off with a black mark.

3 - will be my Unknown rating. I dont think its right to list those who im neutral/indifferent towards equally as those I have never consciously conversed or observed.

2 - These would be my unlikes; for actions carried out negatively in my opinion and likewise for an attitude which I find to be ranging from cringe-worthy to distaste.

0/1 - For those I want gone from CN.

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TOP - 6; Almost on the fence, but my limited interactions have been good. On some level I can respect those who play the game in a constructive way.

MHA - 4; An issue a long time ago with Argent for ever tainted my impression of MHA. Justified or not, its been my only small contact with them.

Sparta - 5; There is good and bad in here. I felt a little disrespected early on in the Karma conflict, but it came good by the end. Trinite doing much for his alliance's impression on me.

NpO - 8; I really like NpO. And always have. William Blake being there is just one of many reason at present.

IRON - 9; Thoroughly enjoyed hanging with IRON. Right from our first DoW. Sage advice has been received and cherished. Looking forward to some good Q&A sessions in the next week.

ODN - 4

FARK - 4

GPA - 4

NPO - 5; Good and bad again. It had been rated higher prior to our relations breaking down not too long ago. I just wish I knew more of you.

FOK - 5; Wish things hadnt have gone the way they did between TOOL and FOK. At one stage a MDoAP seemed a certainty; what happened?

MK - 7; I didnt expect to rate MK as high. Assumed I would want to lash out, and make snarky comments to combat MK's own. But when it comes down to it. You guys are solid, consistent if not a little annoying. But what it mainly comes down to for me is the sense of humour is one I have with friends in those great moments when things fly into tangents and obscure corners. For me; that mood and atmosphere needs to be worked to and then my involvement would be full on. Without the foreplay it can be just grating. And yes, a minor pinch of jealousy that so many of you have the ability to be that care-free and crass in unity. But outside of that swirl of energy and chaos which seems to get away into hostility and group bullying all too often - I actually think you show the group camaraderie, activity, support and ability that most alliances do envy, even if they dont say it.

WTF - 3

TOOL - 10

TDO - 4

VE - 4

Legion - 3

RoK - 4; Used to get on really well with RoK and co... Dont know what happened, cant help but feel like the kind words turned into half smiles and spoken through gritted teeth by some from you. It soured it all a little.

GATO - 3

CSN - 3

Athens - 2; Reason or not, justified or not. The feel of constant attacks on anything TOOL related is impossible to ignore and take somewhat personally. Carried out with less taste then others.

Gremlins -

MCXA - 6; One of the first alliances I ever held relations with back in the early days of TOOL. They offered some great advice and provided much needed encouragement in the early weeks. Fishing for a protectorate? Heh, maybe. But I appreciated it all the same. Come by and say hello again.

UPN - 3

RIA - 4

STA - 8; Massive fan of this alliance. And I know political differences get cited here as if a disclaimer all too often (Hi Tyga) - I wish there was some way passed that because I have nothing but extreme support for these guys. Especially for their help on White.

Invicta - 3

RnR - 4

MASH - 3

NADC - 3

WAPA - 7; Great bunch. I tend to have good conversations when I bother myself on IRC. Need to be doing it more!

NV - 5; Strong group. Have heard good things from ex-members and have heard good reports. Lack of personal contact with them myself is when keeps them low.

NSO - 5; No real contact. Funny to observe though, cant help but feel some there are too defensive. Heft - Big fan!

NEW - 8; GREAT Alliance. Love these guys. Suryanto Tan is one of my favourite ever Alliance mates. I know he doesnt know it, but he had a big impact here.

MA - 3

Umbrella - 5; I remember having a discussion about Umbrella some time ago. It changed some things for me in a good way. For some reason I had negative feelings before. But they are gone and I hope to get to know you guys better.

FAN - 5; Kudos. Keep it up.

LoSS - 3

TSO - 3

NATO - 4; Missing something, I feel. Get the impression sometimes that all is not right here.

Nordreich - 3

GR - 3

Vanguard - 3

GOD - 2; I find the hostility in GOD to be something that will forever be a block for me in being able to see eye-to-eye. I think when grudges and hatred get in the way so much - logic can never be obtained. And I just feel its not their aim either.

FoB - 3

PC - 2; My little contact with PC has been one of contempt towards myself. Probably because of a view that we are a TPF extension for member to take a swipe at. Which is a pity. Banslam is a saving grace. Well, not saving.

Valhalla - 3; Would like to know more of you guys, simply because im shocked that I dont know much about you. Even though you have one of my favourite alliance names.

GGA - 2; Not an alliance I am very fond of. Stories, Gossip, Drama, Unstable, Begrudging - I try and avoid with great haste.

TPF - 9; TPF as a long time protector to being our longest and staunchest ally. Its not surprising I have friends and contacts within your alliance. I think you may even have an ex-TOOL co-leader in your ranks. =P I do hope in time you can settle to being a little less militaristic but over time im glad to see TOOL having some calming effect on you, white and hopefully across all our allies.

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I want to go ahead and say Nice post Pezstar \o/
<GanNing[sTA]> also skippy copying me on congratulating Pez >:(

<GanNing[sTA]> im soooo releasing logs proving your my follower D:

<Skippy[sTA]> >_>

<Skippy[sTA]> you didn't do it OWF style

Nuff said. Follower. :P

Also I should redo my ratings but it's so hard to dig up info to get a solid opinion of an alliance since they'll just claim they changed. Too bad the wiki doesn't have a history inside of every alliance page for the said alliance. -_-

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STA - 9 I would send my alliance to die for yours. -1 for Tyga being a fatty

Twinkies are immoral. Join the cult Grub! :P

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TSO - 0 You disgust me and always will. One day I will see your nations turned to craters and you know it. IF you weren't hiding behind TOP's apron, I would do it now. Then we could move on.

When that day does come......dont be selfish...be sure to call us as well :D

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Athens - 2; Reason or not, justified or not. The feel of constant attacks on anything TOOL related is impossible to ignore and take somewhat personally. Carried out with less taste then others.

I would be interested to know what attacks we have made on anything TOOL related, as far as I was aware there was only one issue between us and that was sorted out a long time ago. TOOL is a boring alliance that doesn't do anything, why would be have it in for you?

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I would be interested to know what attacks we have made on anything TOOL related, as far as I was aware there was only one issue between us and that was sorted out a long time ago. TOOL is a boring alliance that doesn't do anything, why would be have it in for you?

Point and case, really. I have nothing personal against Athens. But all I know is whenever TOOL gets mentioned or comes up, there is a member of Athens making some derogatory remark this way or that. I never said you had it in for us, or anything of the like. That tone from Athens was first pointed out to me a while ago from someone, and maybe its tilted my head a little now when I go to read a thread or discussion. I would love to disprove the notion, but alas it keeps reoccurring.

This actually has no reference to the incident between us before. That was regrettable and handled badly on both sides. Im glad it didnt go !@#$ up completely. But its not what im referencing at all. You can see us as boring all you like, but when attempts are made to get more involved and all that is returned is antagonising and flippant remarks. Its not exactly an incentive to be involved. I guess I just find it more enjoyable to stay clear of just this sort of response.

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Let's see, 5's are basically I have neutral opinions of them. I think I got'em all down. I bet you've been waiting for this. :P

Valhalla - 10/10

NpO - 9/10

STA - 9/10

Invicta - 8/10

Ragnarok - 8/10

NEW - 8/10

ODN - 8/10

Vanguard - 7/10

UPN - 7/10

RIA - 7/10

Legion - 7/10

NATO - 7/10

VE - 7/10

Fark - 7/10

FOK - 7/10

NPO - 7/10

GATO - 6/10

MASH - 6/10

FAN - 6/10

MHA - 6/10

Gremlins - 6/10

GR - 6/10

RnR - 6/10

CSN - 6/10

NSO - 5/10

GOD - 5/10

TSO - 5/10

TOOL - 5/10

TDO - 5/10

GPA - 5/10

WTF - 5/10

Sparta - 5/10

NV - 5/10

TOP - 5/10

GGA - 4/10

Athens - 4/10

MK - 4/10

Umbrella - 4/10

TPF - 4/10

WAPA - 4/10

MA - 4/10

NADC - 3/10

MCXA - 3/10

LoSS - 3/10

Nordreich - 2/10

FoB - 1/10

PC - 0/10

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TOP - 7

MHA - 7

Sparta - 4

NpO - 6

IRON - 10

ODN - 8

FARK - 5

GPA - 5

NPO - 10

FOK - 4

MK - 5

WTF - 5

TOOL - 4

TDO - 5

VE - 3

Legion - 6

RoK - 4

GATO - 3

CSN - 5

Athens - 5

Gremlins - 6

MCXA - 6

UPN - 5

RIA - 4

STA - 4

Invicta - 5

RnR - (I'm not gonna rate my own alliance. Seems tacky)

MASH - 5

NADC - 5

WAPA - 6

NV - 5

NSO - 10

NEW - 5

MA - 5

Umbrella - 3

FAN - 2

LoSS - 5

TSO - 5

NATO - 6

Nordreich - 5

GR - 3

Vanguard - 5

GOD - 5

FoB - 5

PC - 5

Valhalla - 6

GGA - 5

TPF - 8

I gave 5 to alliances I haven't had much interaction with. Just so we're clear.

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Valhalla - 10/10

Vanguard - 3/10

NpO - 9/10

STA - 9/10

Invicta - 10/10

Athens - 2/10

MK - 1/10

Ragnarok - 5/10

NEW - 9/10

ODN - 4/10

UPN - 10/10

RIA - -/10

Legion - 10/10

NATO - 6/10

VE - 4/10

Fark - 6/10

FOK - 3/10

NPO - 10/10

GATO - 6/10

MASH - 9/10

FAN - 6/10

MHA - 6/10

Gremlins - 8/10

GR - 7/10

RnR - 7/10

CSN - 9/10

NSO - 10/10

GOD - 3/10

TSO - 4/10

TOOL - 9/10

TDO - 5/10

GPA - 5/10

WTF - 7/10

Sparta - 5/10

NV - 9/10

TOP - 5/10

GGA - 4/10

Umbrella - 7/10

TPF - 10/10

WAPA - 6/10

MA - 1/10

NADC - 1/10

MCXA - 7/10

LoSS - 10/10

Nordreich - 8/10

FoB - 1/10

PC - 1/10

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All Bias aside, The one thing this thread continues to re-iterate to me, is that most of planet bob is losing out by not knowing CSN.

*shrugs* their loss man, but hey maybe its this mysterious drama ive heard so much about. maybe ill go cause some just to get our name out

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*shrugs* their loss man, but hey maybe its this mysterious drama ive heard so much about. maybe ill go cause some just to get our name out

You know wickedj, I do remember you and very fondly... for me you represent Fark :P I guess it shows what impact your alliance has when I don't even remember someone I know is in it :P

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TOP - 8, pretty cool bunch. Don't like some aspects of their culture and such, but overall very good opinion of them.

MHA - 6, always seemed cool just don't know too much about them.

Sparta - 2, learn how to fight and organize please.

NpO - 6.5

IRON - 7

ODN - 1. You bailed on CDS in GWIII, you bailed on Polar, you ignored treaties in this last war. Suck it. On second thought, you'd probably fail at that also, so, never mind. *Or*, you're used to giving such favors to whoever can protect you from getting your pixels hurt, so, never mind again, proceed when ready.

FARK - 5.5

GPA - 4, lolneutral but decent bunch from what I've seen.

NPO - 5

FOK - 5 (some days 3, some days 7, bipolar on FOK for some reason)

MK - 3.5

WTF - 5, lolneutral but good stats

TOOL - 7.5, great group of people, don't like their lack of lolz or it'd be a 10, but nice people.

TDO - 5, lolneutral but <3 CDS <3

VE - 3, just bleh

Legion - 5

RoK - 2

GATO - 7, League brothers, Aegis brothers, resilient but don't hold grudges. <3

CSN - 6, A_T is cool.

Athens - 4, immature.

Gremlins - 6

MCXA - 5, much better since TSO guys left. Actually, make it a 6, for you guys staying and working to keep your home alive.

UPN - 5.5

RIA - 5

STA - 7, epic fight with Tyga in WotC. I somehow manage to usually not like your guys political position/sphere (overall) but love you yourselves, hah. even if you did sanction me :D

Invicta - 6

RnR - 4

MASH - 3, conflicting treaties but chose convenient ones in Karma, I believe. if not, change to 5, hah.

NADC - 5

WAPA - 5

NV - 3.5, don't like the tude.

NSO - 6.5, don't like asshat attitude, but aggressiveness is needed in CN.

NEW - 8, BAMF.

MA - 5

Umbrella - 6

FAN - 7

LoSS - 5

TSO - 1.5

NATO - 5

Nordreich - 4

GR - 6.5

Vanguard - 4

GOD - 3

FoB - 3

PC - 3.5 have some good people, but their actions/history/grudges override. and have plenty of 'bad' people also

Valhalla - 6.5

GGA - 4

TPF - 3.5. long $@! history, I hated so much !@#$ you pulled, but you were good allies... some of the time. Idk, hard bond/alliance to rate.

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