porksaber Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 The issue has nothing to do with anything to do with reps? wow! this is amazing! its almost like this paying reps is some line in the sand that has been drawn and apparently we've crossed it. so... what happens next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamazlilmistake Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 11 pages Charlie Brown WAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA WA WAWAWAWAWA Attack already im bored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Don't worry I have plenty of logs of you talking to Londo.None of course that will be shared publicly but you should know what I'm talking about. Everyone in Athens agrees you hate CnG It is unbecoming of an alliance gov member to run around talking about logs and then not sharing them. Don't take my dislike for some of Athens policies and behaviors as hatred for CnG. You should also stop taking this conversation into territory that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 No great argument there however it seemed that negotiations were at a stand still. What further recourse does an alliance have when they know they are being prodded? Well, I have a difficult time really labeling negotiations as being at a standstill after only twenty-four hours, however, ignoring that, my next move would be to bring in allies of the other party into the talks, especially if any happen to be mutual friends, though that isn't strictly necessary. Sometimes allies have a tempering effect or can do a better job of reasoning with the other party than you can especially if you are a die-hard opponent of the alliance in question. And if the other party is being especially unreasonable, getting their allies involved can definitely have a beneficial effect in terms of back channel pressure in many instances. There are situations where going public can be useful, but Invicta seems to have rushed into this and skipped over a couple of potentially more viable options in doing so, effectively removing them from the table, or at least blunting their potential efficacy in case they are used at a future point. That's why I consider this to be a rather ill-considered move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwood1 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 When I want something done, I go straight to the forums and post my complaint! This pretty much summed up my opinion of the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canik Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Who the hell pays reps when their members go rogue? Tell you what Invicta, when a member of the NPO goes rogue on you, you go try to get reps from them and see what they say. When a member of MK goes rogue on you, go to them see what they say. When a member of NpO goes rogue on you, go see what they say. Again, this is an instance of a private matter that shouldn't be public. Yet another smear campaign on the Stickmen. Get over yourselves. You guys wonder why purple is a freaking joke. I will pay the damn 6 million reps for them if it will get you guys to shut up in public. EDIT: Valhalla, you might want to move off of purple, your color mates are .....challenged. Man, every post your make now days dealing with politics, I'm like, "I can't believe I used to respect this guy". You clearly need to join CDT for a while and get to know us and see what is really going on. As for SLCB, 3 mil per nation can't be that far off from the actual damage done. I don't know if anyone has checked lately, but Infra is expensive, and can be destroyed really fast. Are you really so cheap that you can't afford 3 mil per nation? Is that really the issue you're claiming here? That you want to keep the member and 3 mil per nation attacked is too much for you to pay? You know, it's funny, because when I said something publicly about FAN taking part in extortion of 6 million from FEAR, some of the same people complaining now laughed and said, "You're complaining about 6 million? C'mon.." Hopefully people will see CDT's consistent honor and lack of aggression, and recognize the others who are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 To be fair, SLCB did make a thread over supporting a senate candidate. I think this thread is more legitimate than that one. No, Avalon did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptGodzilla Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Who the hell pays reps when their members go rogue? Tell you what Invicta, when a member of the NPO goes rogue on you, you go try to get reps from them and see what they say. When a member of MK goes rogue on you, go to them see what they say. When a member of NpO goes rogue on you, go see what they say. Again, this is an instance of a private matter that shouldn't be public. Yet another smear campaign on the Stickmen. Get over yourselves. You guys wonder why purple is a freaking joke. I will pay the damn 6 million reps for them if it will get you guys to shut up in public. EDIT: Valhalla, you might want to move off of purple, your color mates are .....challenged. Delta, if a Polar nation attacked you, you would expect us to pay, and rightly so. There would not be any argument, indeed we just pay for the mistakes in judgment without resort to pettiness. Given that I don't like you and vice versa etc etc, the situation would still be resolved almost immediately. I don't see the massive issue here. Either agree to pay (big difference to actually paying) and move on... or not.This thread should have nothing at all to do with an alliances obligations in these matters. I smell another agenda at work. I think AirMe needs to catch up on his CN etiquette 3 million is easier on the person paying reps, and the person attacked gets a bit of extra cash out of it as a "sorry our member was dumb and attacked you" Although, I wouldn't expect anymore from Shovel, IIRC he killed the last couple alliances he was in Edited October 29, 2009 by CptGodzilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicalTrevor Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Don't worry I have plenty of logs of you talking to Londo.None of course that will be shared publicly but you should know what I'm talking about. Everyone in Athens agrees you hate CnG You'd serve your alliance well to walk away from whatever you're considering doing right now. AirMe has served C&G a thousand times over, remember that next time you speak with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovel Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think AirMe needs to catch up on his CN etiquette3 million is easier on the person paying reps, and the person attacked gets a bit of extra cash out of it as a "sorry our member was dumb and attacked you" Although, I wouldn't expect anymore from Shovel, IIRC he killed the last couple alliances he was in You don't remember correctly, keep trying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) Man, every post your make now days dealing with politics, I'm like, "I can't believe I used to respect this guy". You clearly need to join CDT for a while and get to know us and see what is really going on. Man, this post is like 10 minutes too late. I'm like, "I can't believe this dude didn't refresh the page before posting". you clearly need to refresh the page and wait for awhile before posting. Why is this thread still going? SLCB's actions are kinda inflammatory... Invicta lacks the spine to do anything about it and the laughs are dying out. :edit: forgot the "t" in posting. Edited October 29, 2009 by tamerlane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think AirMe needs to catch up on his CN etiquette3 million is easier on the person paying reps, and the person attacked gets a bit of extra cash out of it as a "sorry our member was dumb and attacked you" Although, I wouldn't expect anymore from Shovel, IIRC he killed the last couple alliances he was in To both of you, I misread the OP. I thought the member in question was leaving the game. But my point about 6 million stands. It's not worth a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptGodzilla Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 So alliances from which rogues come from are accountable for their actions now? I've had more in damages from failed tech deals (in fact there is one such example in my foreign aid slots right now), you don't see me complaining to their respective alliance leaders and demanding they pay reparations. not a rogue. A member of SLCB attacked 2 invicta nations and a legion nation. SLCB sorted it out with legion and refuses to sort it out with invicta. the nation (i am assuming) is staying in SLCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 No, Avalon did. No, it was SLCB. Avalon's had nothing to do with supporting a candidate, if anything it was the exact opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 No, it was SLCB. Avalon's had nothing to do with supporting a candidate, if anything it was the exact opposite. I thought you were referring to this one http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=70808 I think we can both agree that none of the 3 threads on this topic are necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draov Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) [ooc]I would like to thank SLCB and Invicta for my future grade of F in psychology[/ooc] Edited October 29, 2009 by draov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choader Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 If SLCB is so wrong here why is Invicta afraid to get their balls back from their mothers and use them? Invicta is a laughingstock and it's not irrational purplol hate, it's because of inane threads like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corrupt Teacher Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 1. lol purple 2. Invicta should have just attacked the rouge and seen what SLCB did after refusing to pay. If its a rouge they do nothing everyone wins (sort of) and if they back their nation you have a legit CB and go to war. 3. Who the heck is the Athens guy I've never heard of saying AirMe hates CnG and ICE? All I have to say about that is you've got to be kidding me. I mean AirMe hates CnG so much he has that nice MK treaty just to spite them then he goes and keeps a nice little =LOST= treaty just to rub it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamerlane Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 3. Who the heck is the Athens guy I've never heard of saying AirMe hates CnG and ICE? All I have to say about that is you've got to be kidding me. I mean AirMe hates CnG so much he has that nice MK treaty just to spite them then he goes and keeps a nice little =LOST= treaty just to rub it in. Maybe hes a masochist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddog241 Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 this is a mess, 11 pages of crap. just attack each other and get it over with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormsend Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) I came in to make sure we were on track with the conversation at hand. I'll be back around page 17 when this conversation is about Karma sucking. Edited October 29, 2009 by Mundokiir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I have no idea what made purple sphere turn into the sphere of whingers, but it's funny that something has small as a 5K NS rogue has suddenly become massive drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiCkO Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I have no idea what made purple sphere turn into the sphere of whingers, but it's funny that something has small as a 5K NS rogue has suddenly become massive drama. people are bored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksaber Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Howdy kids! Uncle porksaber here! Well, them SLCB boys was in a heap of heat for them thar reps, but in the wee minutes before update, they done got paid! Yup! Thats right, eveythings been written off as stoned! And, ta make matters better, Waltar took em all down to the Boars Nest and bout a few cold units for everyone! Yup, thing's is all back ta normal here in purple county! Y'all come back now, y hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I'd just attack the guy and be done with it. Let the dog catch the car. I doubt SLCB actually has what it takes to follow through on all of their baiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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