A Soviet Attack Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dilber is probably #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Walford taught us wrong from right. He was both leader of alliance and of religion. Praise be to Walford. He is clearly the single most important person, ever. Our Moral compass is defined by Walford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dilber, as the Architect of the Age of Unity, was able to provide solvency for the problems created under the previous administration, created the tools for the NPO to do what they have been for two years, changed the game from top to bottom, and did so in a way that most of us were unaware until it was already too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Having thought about this more, I'm gonna say Dilber, hands down. When he rose to the throne, he changed the way the game was played, and in a sense, we're playing his game to this day. He ended the Moldavist age of inward-focusing alliance policy and started the Dilberist age of outward policy, a policy that Moo continues to use and that most every major alliance in the game continues to use. He changed the way CN politics work, perhaps forever. After him, perhaps Ivan... He was the architect of the prior age, which WalkerNinja calls the Age of Order. Together, Ivan and Dilber have been the architects of CN history. They polarized the world. To this day, most people identify as pro-NPO or anti-NPO. That's the CN political spectrum. That's probably gonna change soon, but even if NPO were to disband, the core of Dilberist policy is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Archon has the potential to be the third Architect, but we shall see. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint Your Target Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 NPO's first two emperors shaped two epochs of this game, ES has always played a vast part and is a constant factor in affairs though, I would cite him overall as the most influential, post GW1-era. Closest I ever did was leave BoTS to fall into disorder under the command of a 12 year old, which helped spark UJW So yeah, ES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) The list in the OP made me laugh. That's quite a mix you got there. Suffice to say some of the names there isn't even on the same level as the great ones. While I recognize that the NPO emperors have had alot of influence here I still have to cast my vote for archon for constantly being the counterweight to the NPO powers from GW1 to today. While NPO have changed emperors through the history Archon have always been..Archon. Edited May 26, 2009 by neneko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobboman Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I Nominate Duffman04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Caspian Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dilber, definitely. Possibly Archon, but as has been said NPO was always the driving force so any opposition was reactionary, thereby not quite as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I would have to say the glorious members of the Flying Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Also, VanHoo was pretty frigging important and amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dilber - The original treaty whore swung the game back into Pacifica's hands. BobJanova - Basically turned public opinion against NPO, along with us in Vox. Doitzel - Helped destroy Pacifica's ruling coalition with a bunch of essays. Sponge - His sarcasm and trolling are on a level of their own. Archon - Led Karma, essentially, and has been around opposing the NPO since GW3. Revanche - Former LUE, kept the fight going and also helped change alot of minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotherington Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I didn't realise everyone thought Archon was so important, maybe hes just so modest I started beleiving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss Goodbye Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 (DAC)Syzygy deserves another nod. He's been quite influential in a different manner from the people getting the most attention here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Obama Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) (DAC)Syzygy deserves another nod. He's been quite influential in a different manner from the people getting the most attention here. He also had admins ear in terms of game improvement/suggestions. BobJanova - Basically turned public opinion against NPO, along with us in Vox. Bob Janova? Edited May 26, 2009 by President Obama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 BobJanova - Basically turned public opinion against NPO, along with us in Vox. I see two statements neither of them true. As for Archon being the most influential, I find that hilarious. The idea that he is the "leader of karma", while good propaganda, obscures the fact that MK was not even close to important in this war (unless nonstop posting counts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatherum Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Gatherum rubbed his chin in contemplation. In terms of long-term effect, I would have to say...Ivan Moldavi. In terms of shaping events to the current state of affairs today...hrmm...Electron Sponge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdonia Redux Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Yardovich along with his post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dilber for making the game what it is, or Sponge for always being involved, either as the tyrant or the rebel leader, arguably making a difference in both cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 (edited) Honestly, Sponge is a pretty good runner up to Dilber. He's played both sides of this game, manipulated both sides into perfect strategic positions, and is so convincing that even his opponents have to force themselves to disagree with him half of the time by changing a mantra of "It is Sponge and he is not to be believed." Even when he was the pariah of the entire cyberverse, the man could still come up with logs and screenies of internal Continuum discussions and private negotiations. I don't know if he's the most influential (imo, that still goes to Dilber or Moldavi as BamaBuc indicated earlier) but Sponge is certainly the most potent player in this game, especially considering that Unistrut never held a candle to New Syzgia... or even tried to for that matter. Edited May 26, 2009 by WalkerNinja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 As for Archon being the most influential, I find that hilarious. The idea that he is the "leader of karma", while good propaganda, obscures the fact that MK was not even close to important in this war (unless nonstop posting counts). Yes this is clearly the first time the world have seen archon. Nobody knew who he was before this war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raken Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 As for Archon being the most influential, I find that hilarious. The idea that he is the "leader of karma", while good propaganda, obscures the fact that MK was not even close to important in this war (unless nonstop posting counts). Man you couldn't buy a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Yes this is clearly the first time the world have seen archon. Nobody knew who he was before this war. Unless you were around to see Tyga nuke Duffman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Unless you were around to see Tyga nuke Duffman. Birth of the only good cn meme ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelrat Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Including past and presence who shaped the game on a political public scale: Ivan Moldavi Dilber Moo Electron Sponge Archon Mpol Including past and presence who shaped the game on a political not so public scale and improved the game mechanics: Syzygy Including past and presence who shaped the game on a political not so public scale Crymson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamed Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Yardovich along with his post I have to go with this. Yaridovich established lines that still exist today (to a point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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