Steelrat

Infra losses ~9k Tech losses ~2.2k Land losses ~5k Spent 600m cash (including bills etc.) the actually warcost are about 200m Remaining cash, enough for ~8month [url=http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=me1acp.jpg][img]http://www.abload.de/img/me1acp.jpg[/img][/url]

I think you missed one, maybe because he is not in a common bigger alliance. [url="http://www.cybernations.net/stats_awards.asp"]http://www.cybernations.net/stats_awards.asp[/url] [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=15348"]http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=15348[/url] I would have missed him too but i fight him with others right now.

@Saber, read my stuff about tactics in a nuclear war. There should be several topics/replies on TOP´s forum i explained in detail how to, from how important coordination is, timed attacks after a nuke to get through someones defence, to the difference between a shotgun and a sniper tactic in a nuclear war with pros and cons. IRON knows (Karma war) how it hurts if a shotgun tactic is countered by a sniper one. All i can say, tactics and timing in a full blown nuclear war are very important. Roughly you can say the damage one nuke does is the same all conventional attacks does combined. There is much more than just hit the nuke button, on a tactical and strategical level.

Oshi, that hurts. I was curious and checked the war screens, again ouch MASH.

I'm baffled. I can't remember excatly when our first contact with FH was, it was when HanZiFei was in Grämlins Gov and that is some years ago. FH was never our official protectorate we never had any. FH was member of the ice accords because that was the best way back then to have a sort of legal protection. In case FH would have had trouble Grämlins were to help them but except for ONE small case with a kind of rogue, i think a year ago, FH never had any trouble that they couldn't handle themselves. In Karma war FH asked if they could help us out, i refused their offer and told them to save their nations. They didn't really liked my refusal but accepted it. Anything past the Karma war i have no details but i read about a possible merge with FH on the Grämlins forum. Hello bathala bino i'm glad you are still playing CN.

[quote name='wickedj' date='05 February 2010 - 07:46 AM' timestamp='1265352412' post='2161003'] I am SURE they would love you forever if you did underestimate them [/quote] Wait, i forgot about that. Insider comment on "FARKERS don't know what they do and that's the truth" insider comment off

The lack of OWF presence from FARK during usual times may lead some to underestimate them, don´t.

Farewell Citadel, it was great while it lasts. It was an interesting experience to have such open discussions.

[quote name='Empress Theodora' date='03 February 2010 - 07:25 PM' timestamp='1265221533' post='2156844'] It's not our fault that most of your guys not in peace-mode are in anarchy already. We tried to spread the love but you guys need to have some nations come out and play with us [/quote] Points at himself http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?search=70401&Extended=1 2 slots open, but i may be rash still some hours to update.....

[quote name='Freelancer' date='03 February 2010 - 03:34 PM' timestamp='1265207663' post='2156480'] Strategically speaking, I don't see that happening, the one thing I've learned watching The NPO for 3 plus years, they don't take loosing lightly. They win this war by avoiding it, as Elyat has said, when this is over they will be back on top. [/quote] Obviously and man can hope that NPO want to show their leet improved war machine.

[quote name='Ivan V' date='03 February 2010 - 06:13 AM' timestamp='1265174039' post='2154850'] OMFG always have a stainless steel pair. Have a good fight, OMFG! o/ OMFG [/quote] I´m sorry to disagree but i´m the only one with a stainless steel pair in CN.

Why the hell is this war $%&@ed up, it´s the best thing ever happened, except from NPO taking not part yet . Please NPO join in and all my wishes come true. Seriously this war fantastic, i would call it the great leveler. After this is over, hopefully earliest in 1 or 2 month, Bob won´t look the same and never will be. [b]DEATH TO THE TREATY WEB[/b]

When shall we meet again In thunder, lightning, or in rain? When the hurlyburly's done, When the battle's lost and won. See you on the other side. And goddamn get someone to attack me, i have still one slot left, i need to replace my land losses.

Thx OG and hell yes I thought i won´t get any more targets and have to stick with Bubbler, now i´m happy. See you on the other side, have fun.

As we are on it, some more examples of ~18k tech nukes without navy support yet [quote][size="1"]To: Steelrat From: Matt Miller Date: 2/1/2010 9:20:18 PM Subject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by Matt Miller. Your fallout shelters have limited the damage caused by this attack. You lost 75492 soldiers, 15105 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, [b]697.783 miles of land, 232.594 technology, 697.783 infrastructure[/b], 50% of your aircraft, and 18% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience several days of economic devastation. [/size][/quote] [quote][size="1"]To: Matt Miller From: Steelrat Date: 2/2/2010 12:05:21 AM Subject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by Steelrat. Your fallout shelters have limited the damage caused by this attack. You lost 43017 soldiers, 8705 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, [b]681.650 miles of land, 227.217 technology, 681.650 infrastructure[/b], 50% of your aircraft, and 18% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience several days of economic devastation.[/size] [/quote] Some conventional examples [quote][size="1"]To: Steelrat From: Matt Miller Date: 1/31/2010 12:02:41 AM Subject: Battle Report Message: You have been attacked by Matt Miller. You lost 690 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 460 soldiers and 53 tanks. T[b]heir forces razed 351.234 miles of your land[/b], stole 23.416 technology, and destroyed 93.662 infrastructure. Their forces looted $1,000,000.00 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.[/size][/quote] [quote][size="1"]To: Matt Miller From: Steelrat Date: 2/2/2010 12:05:51 AM Subject: Battle Report Message: You have been attacked by Steelrat. You lost 4,898 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 1,788 soldiers and 512 tanks. [b]Their forces razed 341.166 miles of your land[/b], stole 22.744 technology, and destroyed 90.978 infrastructure. Their forces looted $1,000,000.00 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.[/size][/quote] I will love it when i´m down the ranks to nuke and GA some mid level nations with Navy support

Honestly Grub and Archon, thanks for all the fun, mess, for the emoraging on this forum. You have provided CN one of the most interesting times. To the CN citiziens can´t you see it, this isn´t over yet and with polar re-entering the war, my guess is we will see soon some more DoW´s from not involved parties yet . And i really really love it how messed up this is, this war will even change more of the political landscape than the Karma war. Mark my words after this war you will see old friends going complete different routes and old foes will be allied. What a joy to see the treaty web crushed that way.

You guys over there have no idea when you talk about "beer" what you drink over there is water with some taste. Get over to Germany, test some beers here and you know what i´m talking about. [img]http://www.biertest-online.de/grafik/gebindeklein/veldensteiner_landbier.jpg[/img][img]http://www.hacker-pschorr.de/images/produktbilder/flasche_anno_1417.jpg[/img][img]http://www.biertest-online.de/grafik/gebindeklein/moenchshof_kellerbier.jpg[/img] Test site for German beers: http://www.biertest-online.de/ about 13k different tested beers

You guys won´t see that often, so save it [b]I 100% agree with Branimir[/b] [quote name='Branimir' date='30 January 2010 - 08:23 PM' timestamp='1264879395' post='2145235'] What one normal alliance leader does in a situation in which Grub was, when approached by metal alliance that they accept the terms all of the !@#$@#$ sudden, is to say: Hey, that is grand, now let us make a cease fire while I run this with the rest of the gang (like, you know TOP and IRON which he knew were going in to support his $@!, so to tell them, the reason why they are entering is over). That is what one normal leader without any innuendos do, in that situation. [/quote] [quote name='Branimir' date='31 January 2010 - 03:35 AM' timestamp='1264905356' post='2146265'] Grub had all the reasons to pause for a short period, after metal alliance accepted the deal all the sudden after days of negotiation, and after he covered all the bases that were in play, and of which he knew, on his side which was his responsibility as the primary antagonist-- shake hands and call it quits. Now, in best case scenario-- Grub is naive and silly and got played like a child. NSO, TOP, IRON et all, will feel it. Or, what seems likely-- he wasn't. Choose. [/quote] Grub knew that TOP&Iron were going to join, maybe not that they will hit the whole C&G but Grub knew what TOP&IROn were up to, i can assure you that TOP and Polar communicated a lot. So Branimir´s conclusion is absolute correct.

I can´t agree on the last part, the current Gremlins leadership egos may be bloated but i guess Ramirus, Synth or matthew don´t really care about that. Point is IRON and TOP made a move for what reasons ever, point is Gremlins and MHA decided to defend MK. The consequences will be seen soon, i know for sure NPO is laughing it´s $@! off and maybe polar too, depending on Grub´s course of action. Edit: In blunt words, TOP&Iron and friends and C&G and friends will loose a lot of fire power. Guess who is the laughing third, fourth party..... Nobody should underestimate TOP´s firepower and their will to fight to the end, i know that for sure, i know the scenarios TOP made for Armaggedon. I wrote a good part of them for Gremlins and discussed it with TOP. Anyway, lets have some fun and glowing as long as it lasts. Also hello Matt, .. again

Yes, that would have been the obvious strategy but there is still a nice trick waiting. PM nations coming out, point is when they come out and how organized they coming. The more nations in PM have to be organized the difficult it gets. Love you Sigrun

With all due respect you Sir are a moron. The numbers were quite equal, the Karma coalition prior to TOP's engagement and prior to the Coalition of Cowards incident were roughly 2m score advantage. Liquid Mercury or others surely can provide you with exact numbers. (Check the timline here and you get a rough estimation of the numbers in the begining http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/NPO-OV_War) That Karma won that war was due to perfect military organisation and brutal military incompetence from Hegemony side. I´m not talking about a single alliance, i´m talking about a concert, Karma knew when, where and who to hit, Hegemony not so much. Somewhere deep down the halls there is an IRC log, taking place some hours after the Coalition of Cowards incident different Hegemony HC talked what to do now, it was a brilliant read and after reading that every Karma HC was quite sure we can win that war. Woke up to stop history revision, Steelrat out, back to hibernation

Came to save my nation from being deleted, saw the GRL is above 2, maybe somethings going on, checked the forum, read this and ........... will go back into hibernation. Call me when things start to blow, i will be there.

The other founders are gone into the shadows and even i can´t remember their names.

Another bites the dust. I enjoyed every of our late night IRC convos. Have fun, Azaghul

Looks like that if you include the distances of other points with different efficiencies. According to my data the 99% radius is at least 2 and only one 98% point does not fit into that. The 98% point in question is Lon=X=72.170, Lat=Y=-69.900, lets see if Admin use plain radii or spherical distances. New points to try, please test them out Point A Lon=X=70.5970 Lat=Y=-66.5970 Point B Lon=X=69.9900 Lat=Y=-68.0000 Point C Lon=X=72.0000 Lat=Y=-66.0500 Point D Lon=X=72.0000 Lat=Y=-69.9000