Caliph Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) We all created the system - the old authors no longer matter. The future authors of the years to come have no reason to continue repeating the same mistakes. I disagree. I had no part in the creation of this current system. I admit, I used to be in a Continuum alliance. Well, two of them, one with my old nation and one with my current nation. However I can do nothing to force them to change their ways, and truth be told if I could I wouldn't want to force them to change their ways, thats not who I am. I don't believe in forcing a belief structure on anyone. But I do have a strong sense of justice, and injustice. The current hegemony has used alliances in the past to further their own short term goals. However every alliance does that to a certain extent, because such is the nature of politics. What the current hegemony does in regards to PZI is done in part because there is nobody with the power, military or political, who can, or who even has the will, to appose it in such a way as to make them think twice about the widespread usage of it. This current hegemony is not created by all of us, but it is created by the most powerful alliances in existence. Why are they the most powerful alliances? Because of both the actions of themselves, but also the actions of alliances who some have betrayed and cast aside when their usefullness had expired. This current hegemony also exists because there is not sufficient strength or will to appose it in any way that is capable of changing the hegemony. The unrest is present, given the Vox movement and others events, however as long as the Continuum is together with NPO, IRON, MHA, Sparta, and a majority of the sanctioned alliances in it, or allied to Continuum members via the treaty web (like ODN is) nothing can, or will, change. Good luck with the plea Jonathan, but it is nothing more than that, a plea to those who have absolutely noincentive to do as you ask. And one thing remains true, and that is that might may not make right, but might does indeed make what is. Edit: added the word "no" in a sentence. Amazing how adding that one word changes the meaning of a sentence. Edited April 3, 2009 by Caliph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Caliph - fair enough - nice response! This current hegemony also exists because there is not sufficient strength or will to appose it in any way that is capable of changing the hegemony. The unrest is present, given the Vox movement and others events, however as long as the Continuum is together with NPO, IRON, MHA, Sparta, and a majority of the sanctioned alliances in it, or allied to Continuum members via the treaty web (like ODN is) nothing can, or will, change. Cant say I disagree with anything there. Edited April 3, 2009 by Paradigm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Fool Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Hi JB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Good luck with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Mighty Yamses, let my pickles go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Mighty Yamses, let my pickles go! I lol'd. I can't even remember what that episode was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Good luck to you, JB. You know where to find us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmmehhh Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I do not think you will find anyone willing to take you until you resolve your list problem. So if you happen to die and re-incarnate in RL, you should be free to play CN again. LOL It's indeed really sick that you basically cannot play CN again as the same persoon. EZI is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viridia Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) I've never heard of the Republic of Orange Nations. Are they an up and coming contender to IRON? edit: I got the joke, I'm openly disregarding it Edited April 5, 2009 by Viridia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 LOLIt's indeed really sick that you basically cannot play CN again as the same persoon. EZI is bad If you really re-roll, i.e. dont just come back "undercover" and jump into your old alliance, friends, and persona, how could they even know you were back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denial Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 If you really re-roll, i.e. dont just come back "undercover" and jump into your old alliance, friends, and persona, how could they even know you were back? You'd be surprised at the lengths those who practice EZI will go to in order to prevent a person from playing this game in any meaningful way. From comparing IP addresses obtained via off-site forums and IRC, to searching through the Photobucket accounts that players host their signatures on, history has shown that the EZI-enforcers of this game are able to make it very difficult for even the most cautious of rerollers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Cousteau Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I've never heard of the Republic of Orange Nations. Are they an up and coming contender to IRON? Methinks somebody didn't pick up on Mr. Brookbank's word play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 You'd be surprised at the lengths those who practice EZI will go to in order to prevent a person from playing this game in any meaningful way. From comparing IP addresses obtained via off-site forums and IRC, to searching through the Photobucket accounts that players host their signatures on, history has shown that the EZI-enforcers of this game are able to make it very difficult for even the most cautious of rerollers. Any specific examples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 What did JB do again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Cousteau Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 What did JB do again? Actually, this is a very good question. One that has been asked in a multitude of ways, by many people, many times. I believe an answer has yet to be given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 What did JB do again? Posted logs of top secret alliance channels like ages ago. E-ZI is such a terrible practice that makes those who use it look awful. JB I've been in your position some time. I know most likely you won't do this because you think it's a waste of you're time but I have also been on E-ZI and have gotten off due to negotiations. Please seek me out and shoot me a query. I promise I'll get you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindom of Goon Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) If you really re-roll, i.e. dont just come back "undercover" and jump into your old alliance, friends, and persona, how could they even know you were back? You make it sound so easy, but who would want to comeback like that? Not being able to talk to your old freinds or be yourself? Edited April 3, 2009 by Kindom of Goon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Good luck JB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanru Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 You make it sound so easy, but who would want to comeback like that? Not being able to talk to your old freinds or be yourself? I think you might be missing the point of a re-roll, rolling for that new character sheet in most role plays would mean you have a new group of friends and new values. Some may even find it thrilling to come back and travel down a whole new path, making new friends and creating a new persona. There is a difference between speaking to old friends OOC and jumping back into the same pattern by relying on your past persona to build up your new one. That being said I wish Jonathan Brookbank luck in getting his name off of those EZI / PZI lists, no one should be forced off of the game simply because they do not wish to play a new character in a different way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycurgus Rex Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Free JB!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think you might be missing the point of a re-roll, rolling for that new character sheet in most role plays would mean you have a new group of friends and new values. Some may even find it thrilling to come back and travel down a whole new path, making new friends and creating a new persona. There is a difference between speaking to old friends OOC and jumping back into the same pattern by relying on your past persona to build up your new one.That being said I wish Jonathan Brookbank luck in getting his name off of those EZI / PZI lists, no one should be forced off of the game simply because they do not wish to play a new character in a different way. The bolded takes a special breed good sir, a talent that's very rare here in PB, I know a few who could do it, however it's not for everyone. I am in agreement know one should be forced to play there character a certain way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwoody Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Methinks somebody didn't pick up on Mr. Brookbank's word play. Surely this word play will be instrumental in securing IRON's respect and list removal. I doubt that laying on subtle insults was designed to be a genuine request to get unlisted, and is more likely an attempt to try and garner attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Maybe he just missed the I key. Okay I'm too nice aren't I :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reachwind Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Please seek me out and shoot me a query. I promise I'll get you off. After a night of some very strange and disturbing IRC messages the air up there remembered his OWF post in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o-dog Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 You'd be surprised at the lengths those who practice EZI will go to in order to prevent a person from playing this game in any meaningful way. From comparing IP addresses obtained via off-site forums and IRC, to searching through the Photobucket accounts that players host their signatures on, history has shown that the EZI-enforcers of this game are able to make it very difficult for even the most cautious of rerollers. Do people really do that? Come on, for someone to take a grudge that far would require a level of bitterness and small-mindedness bordering on the pathalogical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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