Bob Janova Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Updated. This update (about 2 weeks) sees the return to the web of four previous entrants: TPF, OG, DT and CCC – congratulations to them. If you have signed or cancelled treaties since you fell out of the top 80, please make the appropriate edits on the wiki (I'm fairly sure I missed at least one CCC announcement, at least). Apart from CON, who drop out after their merge into IRON, the worst losers this week are the newly formed Circle of Icarus, whose novelty has worn off since the last update, and GGA whose post-Karma recovery seems to be stalling. Shooting up the table were Argent with a gain of 10 places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choader Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Another great update, thanks Bob! The only mistake that stood out to me was the Sparta-IRON MDoAP, it was canceled a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I have it on great authority that the following ODN treaties no longer exist: Invicta-ODN MDoAP: MDoAP with Invicta; total NS 13.5M, tension 304 (33 per M NS) IRON/ODN MDoAP: MDoAP with IRON; total NS 18.8M, tension 23 (2 per M NS) TOOL-ODN PIAT: PIAT with TOOL; total NS 15.9M, tension 102 (11 per M NS) In addition, we hold a PIAT with FOK (though I suppose the ODP of OUT technically overrules that) and our treaty with GGA is MDP level, not MDoAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 I have it on great authority that the following ODN treaties no longer exist:Invicta-ODN MDoAP: MDoAP with Invicta; total NS 13.5M, tension 304 (33 per M NS) IRON/ODN MDoAP: MDoAP with IRON; total NS 18.8M, tension 23 (2 per M NS) TOOL-ODN PIAT: PIAT with TOOL; total NS 15.9M, tension 102 (11 per M NS) In addition, we hold a PIAT with FOK (though I suppose the ODP of OUT technically overrules that) and our treaty with GGA is MDP level, not MDoAP. Unless you guys have been cancelling treaties without telling us, we have still have a PIAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Unless you guys have been cancelling treaties without telling us, we have still have a PIAT. Whoops, you're correct. We do indeed have a PIAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalaskan Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) Needs moar updates on the picture web. Edited September 9, 2009 by Chalaskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 MCXA-Sparta MDP is no more MCXA-TGE ODP is no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcndwilson Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 ODN and IRON treaty is cancelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 You haven't done a labeled picture in awhile so I figured I'd make one. Note that this was using a version with only MDP+ treaties. I think I got a pretty good angle that doesn't block too many alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Thanks, saves me some effort . Interesting how C&G has come out as a recognisable cluster, it really wasn't on my version (with the ODP/PIAT treaties). Colour treaties like OUT or NOIR have quite a big impact on some alliances, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Andrew IV Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 MK & Nueva Vida have a MDoAP that isn't included. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=50850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) One thing I think would be cool (probably fairly easy too) is "grudge lines" that would push alliances apart. You'd have to subjectively decide who dislikes who, but it could be interesting. # Treaty types# Name Length Strength Colour Grudge 100 -5 Blue Would that work, if I just put it in treatytypes.txt? Edited September 16, 2009 by Lord Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaR Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 That's a cool idea for a political landscape, Lord Brendan. Anyone who has a copy of Bob's web should just start playing with it, as we saw how the web looked with MDP+ only treaties. It looks different with ODPs and PIATs included, and it'd look different with these grudge lines. Then these images should be posted for all to enjoy, heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylar Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 One thing I think would be cool (probably fairly easy too) is "grudge lines" that would push alliances apart. You'd have to subjectively decide who dislikes who, but it could be interesting.Would that work, if I just put it in treatytypes.txt? need this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Panda Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 The 57th Overlanders are in the Amber Accords, as well as NEXUS, which should also go up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 One thing I think would be cool (probably fairly easy too) is "grudge lines" that would push alliances apart. You'd have to subjectively decide who dislikes who, but it could be interesting.Would that work, if I just put it in treatytypes.txt? that would be interesting but i think if i were to mess around with it again like i did before the war i would be adding/removing treaties. and yeah, MDP+ only shows the real political landscape much better IMO, i have been running on that only since you added the lower level options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Brendan Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Tried my idea and it works, but you'd need a lot of data for it to show anything. If you could do a survey in every alliance to get the 3 alliances they dislike the most, then I think you'd see some interesting trends. But just adding in a few obvious ones here and there doesn't do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Tried my idea and it works, but you'd need a lot of data for it to show anything.If you could do a survey in every alliance to get the 3 alliances they dislike the most, then I think you'd see some interesting trends. But just adding in a few obvious ones here and there doesn't do much. and i have a feeling we would have a issue getting people to take that survey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 IRON-SPARTA MDoAP is no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 IRON-Sparta is already off (mentioned a few times already) for the next issue. MK-NV added. 57th are not in the top 80 so they aren't on the web. Yeah, adding negative 'treaties' would work. I have stayed away from that (or from adjusting the strength values on individual treaties) because it quickly becomes subjective and I want the web and list here to be objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myzebedeeistaken Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Athens-WAPA ODP: ODP with Athens; total NS 8.5M, tension 154 (41 per M NS)WAPA-GR ODP: ODP with GR; total NS 6.7M, tension 70 (19 per M NS) WAPA announced today that both of these ODPs are being dropped. Appreciate the time you put into this Bob Janova. Edited September 17, 2009 by Myzebedeeistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 We have an ODP with GATO, an MDoAP with Valhalla, and a ODP with TFD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Treaties updated (incorporating edits made to the wiki, thanks for those ). Not much change in the overall shape of the web and I didn't do an NS update this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 IAA-Invicta MDOAP, nonchaining (not sure if you track that; if you don't maybe you should?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 (edited) Invicta just signed an MDoAP with IAA: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=69601 I'd add it to the Wiki myself but 1) I took one look at that page and went and 2) I'm lazy. Damn you Haf, I shouldn't have said I was going to do this in #iaa Edited September 21, 2009 by Locke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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