King Andrew IV

Was bored earlier & doing the math, in direct mandatory treaties Gremlins have 50.7 mil NS behind them whereas MK has 45.1 mil not including protectorates. So pretty close in that respect.

MK & Nueva Vida have a MDoAP that isn't included. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=50850

you're not the only one who thinks so

This. I think this idea is silly and is just an attempt to turn this game into something its not.

forcible removal of government members sucks

These pretenders should feel honored to be mentioned with the mighty SPH. He is a god unto men whose very words breath life into the juggernaut that is MK.

Sorry if I'm a little late & the discussion has already moved on. There seems to be a lot of hammering on about the "absolution" of the past sins of FOK, Sparta, & others by dropping their treaties at the last minute. In their defense, at least they have realised their support of the Hegemony was misplaced. A good step in right direction. But if the tables are turned and one day their support of such harsh terms in the past comes back to haunt them would it be unfair to them? No. Karma isn't perfect. I believe some of the former Hegemonic alliances that now fly the banner of Karma would like to take back some of their actions. Thus their implied support for what would later become "Karma" in the time leading up to this war. I believe if roles were reversed alliances like FOK & Sparta would accept reasonable reps knowing that their hands have not always remained blood free. In what I have come to know of them I strongly feel they have the requisite honor to do so. Accepting responsibility is important, trying to deflect it is shameful. With that said, I am very happy to see MCXA receive peace and wholeheartedly wish them the best in their rebuilding.

I'm pleasantly surprised to see this. Good show Valhalla

The wisdom of Londo is beyond the comprehension of the hegemonic hordes! Athens Prevails!

I agree with this, but NPO's peace mode nations should get the same treatment they gave to GATO. And throw in something about not holding any nation in ZI for more than 1 term

no terms. we should all fight to ZI & start this game over fresh.

poor Molon Labe

Crushtania if RON wasn't in enough trouble already.......

sucks to be RON now

Let's do this!