Treaty compendium

[Lord Brendan]

From another thread, I feel this image is a little better because it shows everyone, but it gives a very false representation of where the blocs are situated in regards to each other (unless SF and purple sphere love each other so much they are suddenly overlapping and I didn't realise).

It's because SF is at the front of the web while Poseidon is at the back; we look like we're beside each other but we're actually on opposite sides. The problem comes from turning a 3D web into a 2D one.

My version also only includes MDPs; so the web takes a different shape.

[Sylar]

need a update

[cyrus0321]

37) Nusantara Elite Warriors

Colour: White

NS: 3.2M; Score: 12.69

TPF-NEW MADP: MADP with TPF; total NS 4.9M, tension 72 (22 per M NS)

The New Fearless Pact: MDoAP with FEAR; total NS 6.1M, tension 136 (42 per M NS)

NEW-TOOL PIAT: PIAT with TOOL; total NS 10.3M, tension 93 (28 per M NS)

update please

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=64240

TOOL - NEW MDoAP

[Doc Anonymous]

Awesome work here, but what does the tension mean, i get what it is but how is it determined?

[Bob Janova]

Updated.

Re tension, you should at least read the first page

Basically, the model works by alliances repelling each other, and being drawn towards each other by a treaty. The tension on a treaty is how strongly the treaty is 'pulling' the alliance. A high value indicates that the treaty is far from equilibrium, and usually indicates that the alliance you're looking at is not friends with the allies of its treaty partner (or vice versa). You can also get a high value if you end up too close to the other alliance due to other treaties. It's easier to explain with the graphics of course

No major movements this update, really. Both major neutral alliances slipped a place, TPF continue their post-Karma recovery with a 4 place gain, and World Federation slip down 5. The only large mover was IAA, benefiting from its absorption of SSSW18 to jump 6 places.

Welcome back to the web to =LOST=, GUN and SLCB. Please check your treaties . SLCB's location on the web is not really correct until the rest of Stickmen make it into the top 80, as that's their major connection.

[im317]

this is a good update, but may i request that LOSS signs 1 additional MDP+ treaty with another alliance in the top 80. you guys get cut off of my web when i zoom in to better see everyone else. i can zoom in and your the only alliance that gets cut off.

now this is not me wanting the web to get tangled, so feel free to drop treaties everyone. just keep 2 MDP+ with top 80 alliances please.

[Il Principe]

28) North Atlantic Defense Coalition

Colour: Blue

NS: 4.1M; Score: 15.7

The Itsy, Bitsy, Teenie, Weenie, Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini MDoAP: MDoAP with Legion; total NS 9.8M, tension 303 (73 per M NS)

NADC-MCXA MDoAP: MDoAP with MCXA; total NS 9.0M, tension 207 (50 per M NS)

The Peace and Love Train: MDoAP with TFD; total NS 6.9M, tension 93 (22 per M NS)

The Reconcilliation Accords: MDoAP with TFD; total NS 6.9M, tension 93 (22 per M NS)

UBD-NADC MDoAP: MDoAP with UBD; total NS 5.6M, tension 73 (17 per M NS)

NATO-NADC ODP: ODP with NATO; total NS 7.1M, tension 39 (9 per M NS)

NADC-WTF Friendship Pact: ToA with WTF; total NS 11.8M, tension 196 (47 per M NS)

NADC-NPO Friendship Pact: ToA with NPO; total NS 11.5M, tension 112 (27 per M NS)

Do NADC and TFD have 2 treaties?

I like how some alliances have a clear connection to one bloc, how some have strong ties to 2 blocs and how some have no clear policy (and lots of ties with different blocs) whatsoever.

[Bob Janova]

The Peace and Love Train is with a load of alliances that don't make the web, as well as those two.

[Il Principe]

The Peace and Love Train is with a load of alliances that don't make the web, as well as those two.

Thanks, I was wondering about those two, but now I understand.

I think it would be a great idea if someone would make his own topic (based on this one) to analyse the treaties of all these alliances.

[Wu Tang Clan]

70) The Dark Templar

Colour: Black

NS: 1.8M; Score: 6.69

DT-PC MADP: MADP with PC; total NS 4.6M, tension 86 (47 per M NS)

Dualing Archons Accords: MDoAP with MK; total NS 9.1M, tension 119 (65 per M NS)

DT-NV MDoAP: MDoAP with NV; total NS 5.7M, tension 94 (51 per M NS)

NoR-DT MDoAP: MDoAP with NoR; total NS 4.8M, tension 86 (47 per M NS)

DT-GR MDoAP: MDoAP with GR; total NS 4.7M, tension 56 (30 per M NS)

NOIR: ODP bloc with Immortals, FoB, Sparta, LoSS, Umb; total NS 27.6M, tension 129 (70 per M NS)

Immortals-DT ODP: ODP with Immortals; total NS 3.8M, tension 20 (10 per M NS)

Bolded treaty was cancelled. Not sure where/if it was announced but it's on the wiki if you don't believe me.

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/DT

Thanks Bob. Love this by the way.

[Tromp]

10) FOK

Colour: Orange

NS: 7.8M; Score: 28.92

[...]

TOOL-FOK PIAT: PIAT with TOOL; total NS 15.1M, tension 218 (27 per M NS)

Gutting Little Teddybears with Broken Winebottles: PIAT with Van; total NS 10.7M, tension 91 (11 per M NS)

Cancelled these, topic can be found here.

Thanks in advance Bob.

[King William IV]

No idea how to add it, but you are missing the Legion-MASH MDoAP

[im317]

No idea how to add it, but you are missing the Legion-MASH MDoAP

a rare M*A*S*H update, that makes a big change to the web. for some reason M*A*S*H has been hard to find treaty info on. anyway, updated.

[AttetNex73]

For the Treaty? Thats what I suspected. The potential referendums unless one huge pan-European referendum is planned would be too much costly for an issue that should be discussed among the governments only.

[Bob Janova]

Updated. A quiet two weeks on the movement front, with a lot of swapping around but not much in the way of big moves. The largest is Kronos who enter the web for the first time at 70th thanks to their recent merge with Syndicate. Joining them in the top 80 for the first time are iFOK, who displace their Stickmen colleagues at SLCB, and GUN also slip back out.

Thanks to the folks who finally updated M*A*S*H's treaties. Not a lot happening on the treaty front either in general. I added Stickmen to the web (that should have been on last time, with FCO and SLCB both on the web), and removed the SF-TT tie up, which was just causing an effective double-count of SF in web positioning.

[im317]

is it me or is the wiki page broken?

its better now, thought shouldn't The Watling Street Compact be off the web? source

Edited November 2, 2009 by im317

[Bob Janova]

Updated. A quiet time at the moment, with GUN and Kronos swapping again. The main point of interest is ODN moving into the C&G grouping, but because of C&G's positioning on the web, that doesn't show graphically very obviously.

And a new picture:

[King Louis the II]

Keep the outstanding job Bob!

I still hoping that the 3d model will become available

best!

[Xiphosis]

This is actually really useful, thanks Bob.

[Unsure]

I love this, but the 3D visualization really does not show up all that well when stuck onto a 2D surface. CnG's near-invisibility

Still, better than trying to puzzle it out with a pure 2D representation by miles.

[Adversity]

Wow really nice who ever did this must of put in alot of time and effort

o/

[Bob Janova]

I still hoping that the 3d model will become available

It is, come talk to people on IRC or the VE forum . And yeah, it's much easier to see the shape of things when you have the actual program. I guess I could start taking shots in stereo if you can do those magic eye things

[im317]

i have some conflicting treaty info, i wont change anything unless its 100% clear. at some point i will have to give you my file so you can see what we still have conflicting. its not in order which makes it hard for me to check individual treaties.

Pink Warrior Network MDoAP looks like its only Libertarian Socialist Federation and Bel Air now source

AZTEC MADP, is now NV,GLOF,1TF,RoA. RoA just added and PUKE has been gone for a while source

you seem to be missing Blood For Friends

you also still have tLC listed in frostbite, i removed that for you.

you seem to be missing the TOP OMFG MDoAP, i don't have a link for it though.

MK ODN treaty upgraded, i got that fixed for you.

[kriekfreak]

FCO is a purple alliance.

[Bob Janova]

MK's new treaty with ODN was already on the web (under its new title, 'Title Pending'). OMFG aren't in the top 80. Looks like you're right about the other ones.