Neo Uruk Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Sigrun Vapneir said: You just want to play "let's you and him fight." 2 hours ago, Sephiroth said: Do you know how much of a pussy you look like asking someone's protection status? If you want to find out, try something. Otherwise keep your mouth shut. ok but neither of you answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kiloist Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: It will take exactly ten more OWF threads to destroy me. Have fun! Someone quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes the wise Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I never knew there was a Libertarian alliance on Planet Bob, Kiwis been living under rocks. Nevertheless, congratulations, this Kiwi is a libertarian at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, wes the wise said: I never knew there was a Libertarian alliance on Planet Bob, Kiwis been living under rocks. Nevertheless, congratulations, this Kiwi is a libertarian at heart. LPCN isn't actually an alliance, it's a different level of organization, more like a bloc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Sigrun Vapneir said: LPCN isn't actually an alliance, it's a different level of organization, more like a bloc. Junka seems to think its an alliance, running around shouting attempted coup d'etat. You can't be coup d'etat from a bloc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: Junka seems to think its an alliance, running around shouting attempted coup d'etat. You can't be coup d'etat from a bloc. To the extent a bloc has government, and someone could conceivably declare themselves to be that government and make it stick, then I disagree. It's possible to coup a bloc. However the alliances forming that bloc, or at least a majority or plurality of them or something, would have to be onboard for it to work - which is why this one failed. No one was onboard, everyone was just going whiskey tango foxtrot. Edited January 19, 2017 by Sigrun Vapneir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Considering that Anarch's General Bangladesh is attacking Animalz because they didn't back his attempted coup, I'm not sure why Jay Kay is trying to split hairs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) This is why I'll never respect animalz again. For being so 'family orientated' and 'tough' (which is apparently another term for just getting beat on and claim that they're fighting back) it amazes me how quickly they would side with their former enemy for peace. But thats not all, my favorite part was how quickly Sir Kindle would leave a bloc, leave methrage behind, and attempt to whore his alliance out offering votes for friends. Everything I believed I knew about animalz has surely changed. The once free and unique alliance I once believed them to be has turn into a bunch of babies crying when their hand isn't held. The best thing they can do at this point is disband. Edited January 19, 2017 by Lord Hitchcock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: This is why I'll never respect animalz again. For being so 'family orientated' and 'resilient' (which is apparently another term for just getting beat on and claim that their fighting back) it amazes me how quickly they would side with their former enemy for peace. But thats not all, my favorite part was how quickly Sir Kindle would leave a bloc, leave methrage behind, and attempt to whore his alliance out offering votes for friends. Everything I believed I knew about animalz has surely changed. The once free and unique alliance I once believed them to be has turn into a bunch of babies crying when their hand isn't held. The best thing they can do at this point is disband. Then why did Monsters surrender long before Animalz left the battlefield? Edited January 19, 2017 by Immortan Junka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galerion Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: This is why I'll never respect animalz again. For being so 'family orientated' and 'tough' (which is apparently another term for just getting beat on and claim that they're fighting back) it amazes me how quickly they would side with their former enemy for peace. But thats not all, my favorite part was how quickly Sir Kindle would leave a bloc, leave methrage behind, and attempt to whore his alliance out offering votes for friends. Everything I believed I knew about animalz has surely changed. The once free and unique alliance I once believed them to be has turn into a bunch of babies crying when their hand isn't held. The best thing they can do at this point is disband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Sigrun Vapneir said: To the extent a bloc has government, and someone could conceivably declare themselves to be that government and make it stick, then I disagree. It's possible to coup a bloc. However the alliances forming that bloc, or at least a majority or plurality of them or something, would have to be onboard for it to work - which is why this one failed. No one was onboard, everyone was just going whiskey tango foxtrot. A bloc is a joint treaty between numerous alliances, you can't coup d'etat a treaty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Then why did Monsters surrender long before Animalz left the battlefield? There's surely a difference between surrending and joining the other side for peace. I'm sure LOF has his reasons. You see, fun story about animalz- about a year ago they got into a truffle with a micro GOONs alliance and GOONs was beating them to a pulp. Sir kindle was crying his little eyes out in the backchannel (it was pathetic). Methrage made the call to stick up for them, bear retrieval unit's war chest at the time was in the billions. And if I remember right, you even aided GOONs at this time, or publicly offered it. M Inc decided to step in and we took care of GOONs, only to see animalz pretend like they made a difference. Did anyone else stick up for animalz like methrage did? No, and it just shows the character sir kindle has when methrage returned. I for one, am extremely happy that we are not longer tied them. They are useless, they are cry babies, they whore themselves out for some type of relevancy, they need their precious hands held, and they're stupid. Edited January 19, 2017 by Lord Hitchcock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kay Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Considering that Anarch's General Bangladesh is attacking Animalz because they didn't back his attempted coup, I'm not sure why Jay Kay is trying to split hairs here. It isn't splitting hairs, its pointing out the wrong use of a word just because it sounds good at best or don't understand its meaning at worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jay Kay said: It isn't splitting hairs, its pointing out the wrong use of a word just because it sounds good at best or don't understand its meaning at worse. Any organization can be couped... whether a corporation, a street gang, or a CN bloc. I'm not sure why you are trying to limit it only to a strict alliance government definition when, even if only informally, it applies to Methrage's actions and intent here. Edited January 19, 2017 by Immortan Junka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: There's surely a difference between surrending and joining the other side for peace. I'm sure LOF has his reasons. You see, fun story about animalz- about a year ago they got into a truffle with a micro GOONs alliance and GOONs was beating them to a pulp. Sir kindle was crying his little eyes out in the backchannel (it was pathetic). Methrage made the call to stick up for them, bear retrieval unit's war chest at the time was in the billions. And if I remember right, you even aided GOONs at this time, or publicly offered it. M Inc decided to step in and we took care of GOONs, only to see animalz pretend like they made a difference. Somehow I doubt the details of your story since Methrage hated GOONS for years now and was always fighting them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Immortan Junka said: Somehow I doubt the details of your story since Methrage hated GOONS for years now and was always fighting them anyway. And kindle didn't? Do we have to pull up the old forum boards where sir Kindle acted like a junior high drama queen? He cried like a baby then, and he cries like a baby now. Edited January 19, 2017 by Lord Hitchcock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord Hitchcock said: And kindle didn't? Do we have to pull up the old forum boards where sir Kindle acted like a junior high drama queen? And you are supporting Methrage today who is acting like a "junior high drama queen." You had no problem with Animalz before because you found them useful. But now they are aligned with the Imperium you have chosen to hate and so you bring up years-old stuff against them. Just stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Immortan Junka said: And you are supporting Methrage today who is acting like a "junior high drama queen." You had no problem with Animalz before because you found them useful. But now they are aligned with the Imperium you have chosen to hate Animalz was never 'useful', we tolerated them (and even helped them) because we both liked methrage and he has battled to hell and back for them. The recent signing was a blessing. Seeing how they've recently treated a former 'family member' is also a blessing as we have taken note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: There's surely a difference between surrending and joining the other side for peace. I'm sure LOF has his reasons. I did, we started as 12 nations in monsters and were down to i think 4 nations only. I felt we couldn't as 4 nations take on 11 alliances as some of the guys that left were also our wealthiest nations. for me, it was time to admit defeat and i didn't pursue white peace as come on.. 4 nations can only do so much, we had to be realistic. Animalz were aware we were in peace talks, Junka made sure that Monsters would have to negotiate separately from Animalz, why so he could do the sneaky deal he just did, I was informed that the same terms would be offered to animalz as to what we took, so we could leave the battlefield together. Junka, misrepresented this, took advantage of the facts and managed to turn Animalz into traitors actually... respect!! It was a sneaky but a fine move Edited January 19, 2017 by ericsw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lord Hitchcock said: Animalz was never 'useful', we tolerated them (and even helped them) because we both liked methrage and he has battled to hell and back for them. The recent signing was a blessing. Seeing how they've recently treated a former 'family member' is also a blessing as we have taken note. The sooner people abandon the idea that there are debts in political relations the sooner alliances can move forward and be productive. Every relationship between allies should be based on mutual self-interest. Animalz owes Methrage nothing, Methrage owes Animalz nothing. Where Methrage crossed the line is demanding fealty from his old bloc simply for breathing air. That's not something I expect from any past or present ally I have worked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Nice move anim-o-tards, you got played like a piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, wes the wise said: I never knew there was a Libertarian alliance on Planet Bob, Kiwis been living under rocks. Nevertheless, congratulations, this Kiwi is a libertarian at heart. Dude, there's been a libertarian alliance on Bob for more than a decade. The Libertarian Socialist Federation. LSF. You can tell they're actually libertarian as well by the fact they have no leaders and not government. I was in LSF when I found out Meth is a liar and an idiot. He messaged me asking if LSF would back him as a senator. I told him that I'd start a thread about it on the LSF forums and we'd talk about it. He then messaged every LSF member telling them I'd said they should vote for him for the senate. The weird little 'libertarian' seemed to think I was the leader of LSF when in fact I was just the most gobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 also I should mention.. i looked at what Animalz were doing, they were all turtling and doing absolutely no damage to the enemy at all. We were the only one's actually fighting at that point check out their damage stats! you can see for yourself. they were a liability anyway, they have a very similar fighting style to SNX which is not meant to flatter them!! It's better to oppose guys like them rather than carry them on your back, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz24 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, ericsw said: Animalz were aware we were in peace talks, Junka made sure that Monsters would have to negotiate separately from Animalz Facts from the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ericsw said: also I should mention.. i looked at what Animalz were doing, they were all turtling and doing absolutely no damage to the enemy at all. We were the only one's actually fighting at that point check out their damage stats! you can see for yourself. they were a liability anyway, they have a very similar fighting style to SNX which is not meant to flatter them!! It's better to oppose guys like them rather than carry them on your back, You don't really seem like a very intelligent fellow when you admit you surrendered because you ran out of money, yet fail to acknowledge that Animalz was also out of money. TLDR it's ok for you to fold because you ran out of money, but Animalz can't sign a treaty when they do. Edited January 19, 2017 by Immortan Junka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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