King Xander the Only Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Regardless of why you're leaving, congrats on getting out. Enjoy your freedom and don't look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Well Chax we don't know eachother but I tried to call the !@#$%^&* in that tbread. If I implied anything about innocent people...well too bad I guess. Good luck and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) [quote name='D Vibianto' timestamp='1358309109' post='3077356'] i am sorry to see you go Chax but we both knew., we both [i][b]knew[/b][/i] the truth. [/quote] We both still know it, Vibi. Until you're willing to admit you were wrong, the mud shall stay on me. It's just unfortunate that your suicide charge against some alliance or another had to come at my expense and the expense of all I've done. I vouched for keeping our treaty. I vouched for you personally. But you know what they say about trusting people; don't. e: in any case, I'm tired of this roundabout argument. Just let me leave in peace, my grave already has enough urine on it as-is. Edited January 16, 2013 by Ernesto Che Guevara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerdge Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Chax, I really can't say I know you well but I have been in a situation surprising similar to your account of your own present situation. I had spent a lot of time building something (AHEAD) and it got destroyed "by CN politics", leaving me disgusted at the thought of all the time and effort that had been wasted. The mis-representation of the truth, doctored logs, VE, FEAR and Lord Boris were too all part of my story (disclaimer: I am not saying or trying to imply that any of the people involved did anything bad.) I too was planning to leave the game. In hindsight, I was being stupid and I shouldn't have let a simple game disgust or disappoint me (D34th is right here). There are other things to do in life and you may very well leave and start spending your time in some other way - King Xander the Only isn't wrong here either - but you may also enjoy this stupid game again, if you want. It's up to you. My advice is: leave but don't leave. "Death" to the Chax that puts too much in the game and allows it to generate negative emotions. Long live the Chax that just wants to play. Good luck in losing the attachment and in embracing enlightenment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358311633' post='3077383'] Apologies accepted [/quote] Speaking of apologies, I'm sorry to report that a good RL friend of mine, Jonny Montana, lacks an account on the forums these days. He wanted me to say "Death comes to D34th" or something along those lines. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Nakara Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) I'm glad we cleared the air between us via pm months ago, you're actually an okay person. Good luck on the otherside, and don't come back to this !@#$ tip of a place. You will be better off without communicating to the majority of the oxygen thief's here. Enjoy the flip side. Edited January 16, 2013 by Hiro Nakara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King William Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [OOC]The reason I sometimes use tags is because I honestly have no idea which forums it belongs in or not. I don't want to get in trouble for slipping up and mentioning the voodoo magic of online forums[/OOC] Chax what can I say. Everyone already has, and I'm not nearly as close, but I kinda wish I bugged you the other day just to tell you I support you. Even if you're wrong, I support you not stressing out, and handling this (although honestly I don't think you're wrong). Love your humor, I liked your style, you should at least let your nation burn [OOC]delete[/OOC] but come back around to chat in diplomatic back rooms. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parandiac Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 i beseech you to stay, chax. at least stay minimally active and do the least required. i'll call you with reminders, if need be. [quote name='Alexander The Second' timestamp='1358301041' post='3077290'] When Chax got booted I didn't see an entire branch of the alliance stand up for him, and damn near bring the alliance to civil war. Anyway point is if he was really such a great alliance mate, how come no one put there name down to defend him even when logs were brought? Make some fake logs of me betraying the UPN and try to get my alliance to kick me out... I'd bet every last pixel they laugh and tell you to shove it. [/quote] i was fighting tooth and nail to get his trial put on hold and get the constitution amended because Lord Boris informed BFF that chax was removed from power pending an investigation, that the evidence was confirmed by an ally, and that if found guilty he would be kicked from the alliance. so the framework was already in place and there was no attempt at impartiality. then Boris went out with his lady friend and was incommunicado for twelve hours. the entirety of our triumvirate was nowhere to be found up until the split off and reformation of FEAR. so i charged boris with conduct unbecoming, requested a state of emergency be declared (which was granted by our Ombudsman, MOSW), and then pleaded with the elders in BFF to assist me in rewriting a portion of our charter in order to introduce alternative punishments instead of the only one that was listed: exile. i received input from three elders, one of whom left with the initial FEAR contingent and his only comment was griping. not one elder or government official that left to form FEAR lifted a finger to salvage anything. Turetel was planning on leaving to reform FEAR last friday and held off after speaking with The Don, who kept it under his hat until speaking with me about it yesterday. probably should have played that a little closer to your chest, don. because i won't ever trust you or the FEAR reformation. there was nothing to really defend when the people holding the trial sequester chax and then leave for the day. only to return, go with Plan B and leave the alliance. a member of FEAR owns the BFF forum and was asked repeatedly by The Don to bring the forum back up so that people could collect their wits and move to either The International, FEAR, Wolfpack, stay on BFF but move forums, or move elsewhere. Boris is going to bring the forum down on all their heads without giving them all the decency to migrate after his abortion of a coup failed. it's unfortunate that people who knew chax for much longer than i had known him decided to offer him up as a martyr and then abandon ship. i don't blame chax. with friends like boris and turetel, who needs enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358329231' post='3077440'] Speaking of apologies, I'm sorry to report that a good RL friend of mine, Jonny Montana, lacks an account on the forums these days. He wanted me to say "Death comes to D34th" or something along those lines. Enjoy. [/quote] I'll will, please say thanks to him, with STA not taking part of Dave War I think it was the most time I was playing CN without fight a war. Oh and tell him that what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger! Edited January 16, 2013 by D34th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmia Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Chax - I hate to lose players of any kind. I would suggest following what other players have said. Take a step back, breathe and then come back to it. Drama comes and goes, and yes, sometimes our work is for naught. Happens in this game, usually take a break, bum around for a bit and have some fun. That is what we are here for after all - to have fun. If it is no longer fun for you, then that is where you make your own decision. [quote name='Parandiac' timestamp='1358332869' post='3077447'] i beseech you to stay, chax. at least stay minimally active and do the least required. i'll call you with reminders, if need be. i was fighting tooth and nail to get his trial put on hold and get the constitution amended because Lord Boris informed BFF that chax was removed from power pending an investigation, that the evidence was confirmed by an ally, and that if found guilty he would be kicked from the alliance. so the framework was already in place and there was no attempt at impartiality. then Boris went out with his lady friend and was incommunicado for twelve hours. the entirety of our triumvirate was nowhere to be found up until the split off and reformation of FEAR. so i charged boris with conduct unbecoming, requested a state of emergency be declared (which was granted by our Ombudsman, MOSW), and then pleaded with the elders in BFF to assist me in rewriting a portion of our charter in order to introduce alternative punishments instead of the only one that was listed: exile. i received input from three elders, one of whom left with the initial FEAR contingent and his only comment was griping. not one elder or government official that left to form FEAR lifted a finger to salvage anything. Turetel was planning on leaving to reform FEAR last friday and held off after speaking with The Don, who kept it under his hat until speaking with me about it yesterday. probably should have played that a little closer to your chest, don. because i won't ever trust you or the FEAR reformation. there was nothing to really defend when the people holding the trial sequester chax and then leave for the day. only to return, go with Plan B and leave the alliance. a member of FEAR owns the BFF forum and was asked repeatedly by The Don to bring the forum back up so that people could collect their wits and move to either The International, FEAR, Wolfpack, stay on BFF but move forums, or move elsewhere. Boris is going to bring the forum down on all their heads without giving them all the decency to migrate after his abortion of a coup failed. it's unfortunate that people who knew chax for much longer than i had known him decided to offer him up as a martyr and then abandon ship. i don't blame chax. with friends like boris and turetel, who needs enemies? [/quote] On this topic - I am not sure why people keep using this argument. I am not going to touch the drama or the internal drama within a sixty foot pole, but yes Boris went out with his lady friend. This isn't a crime the last time I checked and is fairly normal. People's lives don't stop just because of a game. People usually have to leave communications and then discussions happen throughout the day, sometimes it happens faster, sometimes it doesn't.Seems silly considering people were wanting to give Chax time to respond to the allegations but then turn out around and use the same argument against Boris. That being said - I wish the best to all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Quitting is for wimps , best of luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358295576' post='3077213'] Goldie, somebody I saw as a friend and ally... [/quote] This was your first mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geerland Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Chax, I will be sad to see you go. To those who caused it, you will get your just returns, one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 If the word that NEW is going to hit BFF is true, I'll make a suicide run at them as long as my meager warchest allows. After that, I'm out. No rebuilding for me, but nobody $%&@s with my alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358363023' post='3077630'] nobody $%&@s with my alliance. [/quote] You mean, besides yourself right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358363023' post='3077630'] If the word that NEW is going to hit BFF is true, I'll make a suicide run at them as long as my meager warchest allows. After that, I'm out. No rebuilding for me, but nobody $%&@s with my alliance. [/quote] If this happens, its all the evidence I need to believe you were set up, granted I believe you already, it would just eliminate any doubt I have. Edited January 16, 2013 by USMC123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358363724' post='3077637'] You mean, besides yourself right? [/quote] Wow. Sick burn dude, that one really rustled my jimmies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vielwerth Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358363724' post='3077637'] You mean, besides yourself right? [/quote] Jesus Christ man. I've not logged into the CN forums for years and haven't posted for even longer, but such dickery as contained with your post compelled me to sign in and ask what on earth is wrong with you, dude? You weren't like this in CDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloin Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Class act D34TH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Vielwerth' timestamp='1358366839' post='3077653'] Jesus Christ man. I've not logged into the CN forums for years and haven't posted for even longer, but such dickery as contained with your post compelled me to sign in and ask what on earth is wrong with you, dude? You weren't like this in CDS. [/quote] D34th, helping the OWF forum to become more active since 2006. Also look what I found: [img]http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u190/TiagoJeronimo/Signatures/VormrzenSignature03.png[/img] Ps: For those who are outraged with my posts, truth hurts I know. Edited January 16, 2013 by D34th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC123 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I suspect at some point or another D34th is going to start quoting his own posts and telling himself how terrible he is and go on about he is a DH lapdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Che Guevara Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) For those who care to see what I was welcomed to, here is my last set of logs from our gov channel. Session Start: Mon Jan 14 13:12:33 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 03[13:12] * Now talking in #bloodforgov 03[13:12] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead' 03[13:12] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44 03[13:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF] 03[13:13] * Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@coldfront-C42767C0.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) has joined #bloodforgov 03[13:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Turetel[BFF] Turetel[BFF] 01[13:13] <&Chax[BFF]> Really now? 01[13:13] <&Chax[BFF]> I can't even see what I'm on trial for? [13:14] <%Ovidsidios> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1021.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1021.0[/url] 01[13:14] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, I'm demasked [13:15] <%Ovidsidios> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114761&st=0"]http://forums.cybern...pic=114761&st=0[/url] [13:15] <@SniperJoe> Ugh [13:15] <@SniperJoe> Boris probably [13:15] <@SniperJoe> Oh yeah, the trail !@#$ 01[13:20] <&Chax[BFF]> Sooooo [b]01[13:21] <&Chax[BFF]> Are we going to discuss this, or am I just kicked out, thrown into the mud and done?[/b] [b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> We're going to discuss it.[/b] [b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> I don't want to kick you out.[/b] [b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> And if anyone else does they can $%&@ off.[/b] [b][13:21] <%Ovidsidios> but you better have a damn good explanation[/b] [b][13:22] <@DarkFox> If there is any evidence to begin with[/b] [b]01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> I provided logs for you[/b] [13:22] <@DarkFox> Facebook chat is hardly consistent 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> and I'm kicked out 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> that's my explanation 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> Exactly what Fox said [13:22] <%Ovidsidios> well then, we're just gonna have to wait for the trial 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox know sme IRL 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> In the meantime, my name is dragged through the mud, my reputation irreparibly damaged, and our entire alliance made to look awful [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Why do the pictures look edited? 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> a trial I can't even take part in, so nevermind justice [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Nevermind, not the place to discuss it. 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> They don't? [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Relax. 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> Relax? 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> hah. 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> $%&@ that. [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Boris took the limited access thing to remove your access to everything aparently 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> This is my payment for all the hours I put in for this alliance? [13:23] <@SniperJoe> We have to create a new subforum for this !@#$ [13:24] <@SniperJoe> Dude, this is not gonna help. 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> And you think throwing me under the bus will? 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> You could have said "We are discussing something involving the NEW matter, blah blah blah" 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> instead of coming out and saying that I'd committed a crime before it's even been decided [13:26] <@SniperJoe> Then Robster leaks everything [13:26] <@SniperJoe> Spins it however he wants 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> And we say we're discussing it! [13:26] <@SniperJoe> The jackals jump all over it 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> Nobody listens to Robster anyway [13:26] <@SniperJoe> It ends up way worse [13:26] <@SniperJoe> !@#$%^&*,t hey listen to anyone [13:27] <@DarkFox> off topic but I think I just secured us some sellers! [13:27] <@SniperJoe> LOL [13:28] <@SniperJoe> Well done DarkFox. 04[13:28] <@DarkFox> GPF said there is a good chance. So its mostly Chax's doing [13:28] <@DarkFox> I just need to sweet talk them [13:30] <@SniperJoe> Alright 01[13:30] <&Chax[BFF]> GPF probably won't sell to us, I lied, right? [13:30] <@DarkFox> I'll let you know when you lie. [13:30] <@DarkFox> Until then $%&@ it [b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox, have I ever lied to you IRL?[/b] [b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> Hell, I worked for your family.[/b] [b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> I handled money on a daily basis. Have I ever lied?[/b] [13:32] <@SniperJoe> You can prove us all wrong later. 01[13:32] <&Chax[BFF]> And when I do, I want a full written apology from all of you sharks on the OWF 01[13:32] <&Chax[BFF]> as well as BOris's resignation [13:33] <@SniperJoe> Whoa now [b][13:33] <%Ovidsidios> You will get nothing more than what is written in our charter[/b] [b]04[13:33] <@DarkFox> No Chax. I cant say you ever lied to me.[/b] [13:34] <@SniperJoe> Chill Ovid 01[13:34] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, Ovid, with all due respect, go $%&@ yourself. [b]04[13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you go $%&@ urself chax[/b] 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Wow John, that's kind of you [13:35] <@DarkFox> John go take a walk [13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> no 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Yo've been stabbing people in the back for a week now [b][13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> your not my boss[/b] 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> like leaking Joe and Fox's logs to Deebo 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> They trusted you and you sold them out to get elected next term [b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> like hell i am running[/b] [b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i rather deal with reform instead[/b] 04[13:36] <%Ovidsidios> Chax[BFF]: we are ruled by our charter [b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> so cut the sociopath theatrics [/b] [13:37] <@SniperJoe> All of you go take a walk. [13:37] <@SniperJoe> John, don't og there. 01[13:37] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, our charter calls for a free trial [13:37] <@SniperJoe> There will be one. 01[13:37] <&Chax[BFF]> Magicninja has my back more than my own allies [13:39] <%Ovidsidios> SniperJoe: keeps telling you there will be a trial [13:39] <%Ovidsidios> and you make us out to be inquisitors 01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Usually there's a trial before they release the verdic, bud. 01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Innocent until proven guilty [b][13:39] <%Ovidsidios> there is no verdict[/b] [b]01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> This is the opposite[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> Its on the OWF, champ[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> THat's a verdic[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> it doesn't say "We're investigating this"[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> it says "He played us"[/b] [b][13:40] <%Ovidsidios> I respectively diagree[/b] 01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> things like that [13:40] <%Ovidsidios> the evidense proves this [13:40] <@SniperJoe> Uh [13:40] <@SniperJoe> It actually says that we're going to have a trial [13:40] <%Ovidsidios> ^^^^^ 01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay, keep thinking that. [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> But the OWF post clearly doesn't have an air of neutrality[/b] [13:41] <@SniperJoe> Dude. [b][13:41] <%Ovidsidios> That's just media[/b] [13:41] <@SniperJoe> I did what was best for BFF. 01[13:41] <&Chax[BFF]> That's just media, ovid? 01[13:41] <&Chax[BFF]> This whole game is media [13:42] <%Ovidsidios> even the thoughts within an alliance? [13:42] <%Ovidsidios> what they think and what we know [13:42] <@DarkFox> Did anyone make a tech seller mask for me? [13:42] <%Ovidsidios> are not the same [13:42] <@DarkFox> Need one of those and a moderator mask for GPF 01[13:42] <&Chax[BFF]> Well Ovid, if I could see the trial, or at least the forums to discuss it, that'd be different 01[13:42] <&Chax[BFF]> but I can't. [13:43] <%Ovidsidios> because that's in our charter, the trial wont start without you [13:43] <%Ovidsidios> so you needn't worry about this trial happening just yet [13:43] <%Ovidsidios> as it hasn't [13:43] <@SniperJoe> ffs [13:43] <@DarkFox> Was the Ombudsman contacted? [13:43] <@SniperJoe> Boris changed your mask [13:43] <@SniperJoe> subforum hasn't been created [13:43] <@SniperJoe> chill [13:44] <%Ovidsidios> in accordance with our charter 01[13:44] <&Chax[BFF]> The charter doesn't say anything about posting on the OWF first. 01[13:44] <&Chax[BFF]> The charter doesn't say anything about throwing me in a metaphorical prison and then deciding who is right and who is wrong [13:45] <%Ovidsidios> Article IV: Rage 4.1)"...If approved by any one member of the Neapolitan Council or the Ombudsman, the member will then be placed on a restricted access level and given three days and a private section of the forum to plead their case." [13:45] <%Ovidsidios> three days have not even begun [13:45] <%Ovidsidios> nor the private section created [b]01[13:45] <&Chax[BFF]> so why do we post on the OWF?[/b] [b]01[13:45] <&Chax[BFF]> instead of saying !@#$ is underway, why am I being called guilty?[/b] [b][13:46] <@SniperJoe> Because it was the right thing to do for BFF.[/b] [b][13:46] <%Ovidsidios> SniperJoe: has already mentioned time and time again to avoid further damage to our already delicate alliance[/b] [b][13:46] <%Ovidsidios> further the opinions of others will bear no input on the trial[/b] 01[13:46] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay. Well, if I'm innocent, there are going to be some massive, massive changes. [13:46] <%Ovidsidios> yes [13:46] <%Ovidsidios> indeed there will be 01[13:46] <&Chax[BFF]> and some goddamned good apologies. [13:49] <@SniperJoe> EVERY LITTLE THING [13:49] <@SniperJoe> IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT 01[13:50] <&Chax[BFF]> I'm going to clear my name and then I'm probably leaving BFF and CN 01[13:50] <&Chax[BFF]> $%&@ you guys if this is my payment 02[14:04] * &Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@coldfront-C42767C0.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) Quit (Quit: ) 01[14:07] <&Chax[BFF]> So what makes more sense here? That I'd fabricate logs to create stress for Joe and I, or that NEW/Kaskus would fabricate them to clear their names? [14:07] <@SniperJoe> Both explanations make no goddamn sense to me. [14:07] <%Ovidsidios> we are not speculating anything until the trial [14:07] <%Ovidsidios> this is not the place for that kind of discussion [[b]14:08] <@DarkFox> Should not even be a trial without the Ombudsman [/b] [b]04[14:08] <@DarkFox> should not have even demasked Chax before MoSW was constacted[/b] [b][14:08] <@DarkFox> contacted'[/b] [b][14:09] <@DarkFox> for that matter a member of the NC being put on trial was not even covered in our charter[/b] [b][14:10] <%Ovidsidios> but the Ombudsman clause would cover that[/b] [b][14:10] <@DarkFox> So all of this was premature since I don't see MoSW and there obviously wasn't a talk to the complete government since Deebo and I weren't here.[/b] [b][14:11] <@SniperJoe> Read section 4.1[/b] [b][14:11] <@DarkFox> Yes only one member of the NC can start the trial[/b] [b][14:12] <@DarkFox> but now we are running with only 2 NC[/b] [14:14] <@SniperJoe> Huh? [14:19] <@DarkFox> what I am getting at is it maybe fully legal, but that doesnt make it right [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> those are two incomparable words in this situation as neither what is legal need be right nor what is right need be legal [14:20] <@DarkFox> I agree [14:20] <@DarkFox> we didnt plan for this though [14:20] <@DarkFox> and how could we? [14:20] <@DarkFox> Mistrust among the NC? [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> ^indeed [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> ^allegedly [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> we needn't jump to conclusions yet [14:20] <@DarkFox> Tell me a week ago this would have happened and I would have thought that you lost it 01[14:21] <&Chax[BFF]> lol jumping to conclusions 01[14:21] <&Chax[BFF]> glad we haven't done that today [14:21] <%Ovidsidios> well those in charge haven't [14:21] <@DarkFox> in any case we need an acting NC 04[14:21] <@DarkFox> while Chax is detained [14:21] <@SniperJoe> Boris and I are the NC. [14:22] <@SniperJoe> It doesn't say anything about an emergency election or anything. [14:22] <%Ovidsidios> our charter does not accommodate such a revision of our NC [14:22] <%Ovidsidios> the ombudsman will be enough to handle things from here on out [14:23] <@SniperJoe> Puh [14:23] <@DarkFox> he just logged on [14:23] <@DarkFox> give him access to the govt channel and I will get him in [14:24] <@SniperJoe> Nick? [14:24] <@DarkFox> minister_of_silly_walks|bff [14:25] <@DarkFox> he needs access to both here and the private channel [14:25] <%Ovidsidios> which he needs to register his name [14:25] <%Ovidsidios> because it's been longer than 30 days [14:25] <%Ovidsidios> (maybe) [14:26] <@DarkFox> it is registered [14:28] <%Ovidsidios> then someone send him an invite [14:28] <@SniperJoe> Someone add him, I' dealign with everyone in this !@#$@#$ ame 01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> So when is this trial starting? 01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> After 12 hours of slander? 01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> or the full 24? [14:29] <@DarkFox> I dont know the command to give access [14:31] <%Ovidsidios> same [14:32] <@SniperJoe> ./cs access #channel nick level [14:32] <@SniperJoe> 30 for voice and I think any of you could add him at that level 01[14:32] <&Chax[BFF]> I like how my guilt is hinging on whether or not I let somebody from CN have access to my computer 01[14:33] <&Chax[BFF]> I don't even let my best friends IRL onto my computer 01[14:33] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox knows this. I leave the table for 30 seconds and I lock it 05[14:34] -frozen.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- DarkFox invited Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF into the channel. 03[14:34] * Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF (chatzilla@coldfront-5352DD42.satx.res.rr.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF [14:34] <@DarkFox> there we !@#$@#$ go [14:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> !@#$@#$ finall [14:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> y 01[14:34] <&Chax[BFF]> welcome to the trial. [14:35] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Things people have never said to me before... 01[14:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Before we begin, I'd like to remind the ombudsman of the rules here; we are following the guidelines put in place by Joseph Stalin, so keep that in mind. 01[14:35] <&Chax[BFF]> This trial shall follow a similar route to those he has held, with as much consideration for the accused as was affored in the aforementioned trials. 01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> ITS FUNNY BECAUSE I'M GETTING SHAFTED [14:36] <%Ovidsidios> this channel is not the location of the trial 01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> it's a joke, Ovid [14:36] <%Ovidsidios> not the time or the place 01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> I'm comparing BFF's legal system to that of the former soviet union [14:37] <@SniperJoe> My name is Joe... [14:37] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> ...and you are an alcoholic? [b]03[14:38] * Chax[BFF] is now known as Leon_Trotsky|BFF [/b](Edit: Bolded to show when my nick changed) [14:38] <@SniperJoe> No, I am literally Stalin 01[14:38] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> More fitting imo 01[14:38] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> (not you, joe. lol) [14:39] <@SniperJoe> I know, just making a joke [14:39] <@DarkFox> I blame one person for this joke. [14:39] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Jokes have been forbidden by the Justice Tribunal of Justice [14:39] <@DarkFox> and I don't mean the attempts of humor here 01[14:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> "justice" 01[14:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> If the glove don't fit, throw him in jail anyway [14:41] <@DarkFox> and yet the blocks still fall from the sky 03[14:41] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +b *!tiramisu@*.ctvea.net 03[14:41] * Wolfprince was kicked by ChanServ (You are not permitted to be on this channel.) [14:42] <@SniperJoe> Someone add WP [14:44] <@DarkFox> done 05[14:44] -snow.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- DarkFox invited Wolfprince into the channel. 03[14:44] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:44] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Wolfprince [14:44] <+Wolfprince> well activity is up [14:45] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> lol 01[14:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> all I wanted to do was wake up, go to class, come back and talk to Sniperjoe while i masturbate 01[14:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> now I've got this $%&@ign icepick in my back to deal with [14:45] <@SniperJoe> Dude [14:45] <@SniperJoe> I had a !@#$@#$ awesome day [14:45] <@SniperJoe> And I wanted to talk to you about it too [14:45] <@SniperJoe> Now I have a headache. 02[14:45] * +Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) Quit (Client exited) [14:46] <@DarkFox> I too had a wonderful day. One of my close friends getting $%&@ed. Great times. [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> I've had a miserable morning, and now an even !@#$tier day [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> let's get that private subforum up [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> this trial over with [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> and back to !@#$@#$ nothing [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> cause this over activity [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> is straight up dumb 01[14:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe, all I wanted to do was masturbate and talk to you [14:48] <@DarkFox> masturbate "while" talking with you [14:48] <@SniperJoe> lol 03[14:52] * SniperJoe sets mode: -b *!tiramisu@*.ctvea.net 01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Well yeah 01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> how else will I cum? 05[14:52] -snow.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- SniperJoe invited Wolfprince into the channel. 03[14:52] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +h Wolfprince 01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> WHo put boris on trial? [14:52] <%Wolfprince> Howl!! [14:53] <@SniperJoe> What? [14:53] <@SniperJoe> Jesus $%&@ [14:53] <@SniperJoe> You're all demons and this is hell. 01[14:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> so 01[14:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I read that as "You're all deinos and this is hell" [14:55] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> You play CN too much 01[14:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol 02[14:55] * %Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) Quit (Client exited) [14:56] <@SniperJoe> Story of my life [14:56] <@DarkFox> lol para 03[14:59] * @SniperJoe (SniperJoe@coldfront-8174244A.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) has left #bloodforgov 03[15:01] * SniperJoe (SniperJoe@coldfront-8174244A.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o SniperJoe 02[15:04] * @DarkFox (Mibbit@coldfront-77D0A4F5.or.wavecable.com) Quit (Quit: [url="http://www.mibbit.com"]http://www.mibbit.com[/url] ajax IRC Client) 03[15:15] * Wolfprince (WebGuest26@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +h Wolfprince 03[15:24] * Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|BFF Lord_Boris|BFF 02[15:25] * ~Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) 02[15:25] * ~Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) 03[15:26] * Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|BFF Lord_Boris|BFF 04[15:32] <%Wolfprince> how is supposed to set up the thread/mask chax so he can defend himself and speak to the alliance?? [15:32] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Boris I believe has already taken it upon himself to do that [15:32] <%Wolfprince> link don't 03[15:32] * Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@277B8F40.42DE7F9E.6534539E.IP) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:32] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Turetel[BFF] Turetel[BFF] [15:33] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1021.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1021.0[/url] [b]01[15:33] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I'm going to let a neutral 3rd party remote my desktop[/b] [b]01[15:33] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> since that's apparently required in the land of injustice[/b] [15:33] <@SniperJoe> There we go. 04[15:34] <%Wolfprince> Chax cant see that thread can he? [15:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> He cannot [15:35] <%Wolfprince> WTF [15:35] <%Wolfprince> There is suppose to be a thread made (which) he can see where we get his side of this cluster$%&@ [15:36] <@SniperJoe> The subforum hasn't been created. [15:36] <@SniperJoe> Everyone !@#$@#$ relax. [15:36] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> The trial is on hold until we re-write a section of the charter [15:36] <%Wolfprince> I will relax when we do right by our member [15:37] <%Wolfprince> He has been accused, He deserves a place to defend himself [15:37] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Wolf don't worry. he will get it [15:37] <@SniperJoe> No it's not, what are you talking about? [15:38] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1028.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1028.0[/url] [15:38] <@SniperJoe> Boris help me ;_; [15:39] <%Wolfprince> we are splintering apart over this dumb !@#$ and need to have a thread where he can speak to all members [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> RushSykes|TLR I've seen Chax's desktop[/b] [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> made him refresh to prove he didn't edit the html[/b] [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> he didn't fake them[/b] [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you can all call on Nas if you want[/b] [15:39] <@SniperJoe> Are [15:39] <@SniperJoe> you [15:39] <@SniperJoe> !@#$@#$ [15:39] <@SniperJoe> kidding me [15:39] <@SniperJoe> This never ends. [15:40] <@SniperJoe> This is the rest of my life. 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Spergatory 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you earned it 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> all that masturbating, bro 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you had to know that sin would sting you [15:41] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> Yet Don had skype with vibi and had shown this [url="https://www.dropbox.com/s/2bv2synkmkvaizh/ChaxFiltered.bmp"]https://www.dropbox....haxFiltered.bmp[/url] 03[15:42] * Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:42] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|AFK Lord_Boris|AFK 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Cool story Johnap88 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> so now we've got even evidence on either side 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and it's my word against Vibi's 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and you're going to take his? [15:43] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> seen this last night, right when skype happened 01[15:43] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> okay 01[15:44] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> well this just happened about 5 minutes ago 02[15:44] * ~Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [b][15:44] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> nothing can change my mind right now. its really hard to even argue against this[/b] 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> How is that true? 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What makes more sense? That I colluded with Nas to set NEW up so...so Joe and I would have a !@#$storm to deal with? 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Or that NEW is covering their asses with Robster's help so TORN won't leave them for being !@#$bags? [15:45] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> oh please 03[15:45] * Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:45] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris Lord_Boris [15:45] <@SniperJoe> Both of them are ridiculous as !@#$. 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> John, even when I set Muddog up I didn't lie about it 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I've always been honest 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> that was a !@#$storm I had to deal with and I flatout admitted it [15:46] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you came out cuz people had a problem with it 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> no, i came out because muddog asked me 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> go ahead and query him about it [15:47] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> cuz people !@#$%*ed to him 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> nobody talked to me before he did 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> why are you so dead-set against me, john? 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> This is starting to smell like a coup 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and you've admitted you wanted an NC spot [15:47] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> oh whatever 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> prove it isn't. 02[15:47] * ~Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> so anyone who wants to run is 01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I'm convinced this is an attempt to grab power. [15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> wanting a coup? 01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> yup [b][15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> ur $%&@ed in the head[/b] [b]01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> am I?[/b] [b][15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> HELL YES[/b] [b]01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Why are you mad? If you're innocent you shouldn't be mad.[/b] [15:48] <%Wolfprince> children stop the dumb !@#$ 01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Let me remote your desktop and prove it isn't a coup. [15:48] <@SniperJoe> If I ever find out that anyone ever causes me this much trouble to seize power in a goddamn internet game I will hunt them down in real life and strangle them to death. [15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i only wanted to run and made it clear that i felt INTERIOR IS NEGLECTED BY ALL OF YOU [15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> !@#$@#$ A [b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and what's my justification for making this up, john?[/b] [b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> It seems you've got more reason to coup me than I have to fake this.[/b] [b][15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> Evidence shows you lied[/b] [b][15:49] <@SniperJoe> Let's not get dramatic here.[/b] [b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Evidence shows I didn't.[/b] [b][15:49] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Too late[/b] [b][15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> YES[/b] 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> We have equal evidence on both sides 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:40 PM] Nascar8FanGA: Also 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:42 PM] Nascar8FanGA: Bern came to me 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:48 PM] Chax: lol 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:49 PM] Nascar8FanGA: saying he agreed with me 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:58 PM] Nascar8FanGA: and said it was Robster just trying to hurt you [15:50] <%Wolfprince> there will be no more talk of a coup, dont be childish [b][15:50] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> anyone can !@#$@#$ say that[/b] [b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> can say what?[/b] [b][15:50] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> back his !@#$[/b] [b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> why are you so dead-set against me, dude?[/b] [b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You haven't even tried to listen to me[/b] [b]01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've been nailing me to the cross since before i even came on today[/b] [b][15:51] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i am sick and tired of the theatrics and ur !@#$%^&*[/b] 01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> where's the justice there? 01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> How is this my !@#$%^&*? You didn't even let me talk before you were against me 02[15:51] * ~Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) 03[15:51] * Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:51] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris Lord_Boris [b][15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> why talk? you told us the other side of the story was lies and we found out the truth. why more talk?[/b] 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Did you find the truth? 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Then why have a trial if that's the truth? 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You found a conflicting story, not the truth [b][15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> we are gonna have a trial[/b] 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> conflict =/= negation 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've already put the noose around my neck there, bud. [b][15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> and you seen a demo of what it is gonna look like[/b] 01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What could I possibly say, show or prove that would change your mind? 01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Yeah. It's gonna look like you already against me. [b][15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you better get one hell of a lawyer[/b] 01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> is that what you're saying? [15:53] <@SniperJoe> He has Mogar. [15:53] <@SniperJoe> Also, arguing never solves jack !@#$. 01[15:54] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF, in your power as ombudsman I hereby request that you censure Johnap88 for the duration of his trial on grounds of insubordination. Further, I humbly request that he be barred from sitting on the jury in my trial. 01[15:54] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> *this trial [15:54] <@SniperJoe> Now, see [15:55] <@SniperJoe> This is the kind of !@#$%^&* that just makes things worse. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> This is ridiculous. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Are you all not even trying to see my perspective here? [15:55] <@SniperJoe> I am. [15:55] <@SniperJoe> I'm also being objective. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You all had your minds made up before i even came on IRC. Hence the Trotsky nick. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> we are gonna have a trial 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> conflict =/= negation 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've already put the noose around my neck there, bud. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> and you seen a demo of what it is gonna look like 04[15:55] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> I don't have that authority, CHax 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> He's stating right there that he is going to be against me 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You do, MoSW. In legal proceedings your word is law. [15:56] <@SniperJoe> No, I didn't. [15:56] <@SniperJoe> That's why I'm asking you to provide more evidence. [15:56] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> On the jury thing yes, on the other thing no 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have screenshots [15:56] <@SniperJoe> I'm the last !@#$@#$ person who wants you to be guilty of this crap. 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop has been remote accessed 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You have my word as friend and IC companion 03[15:56] * Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|AFK Lord_Boris|AFK 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you have no MO against me 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> but the MO is gainst NEW [15:56] <@SniperJoe> vibi has more evidence on his side at this point. 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What more evidence? [15:57] <@SniperJoe> The screenshot of his desktop. 01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Nas saw my desktop 01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I gave you a screenshot 01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Stalin had a $%&@ton of evidence against Trotsky, that doesn't mean he was right. [15:57] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Guys, none of this decides anything. This isn't the trial [15:57] <@SniperJoe> What you didn't give me is a screenshot of your desktop, and that is what I need. [15:58] <@SniperJoe> And yes, you're right. 01[15:58] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop or the FB message? 02[15:58] * ~Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:58] <@SniperJoe> Your desktop 01[15:59] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> ok...ay. [15:59] <%Wolfprince> can someone explain to me WHY he would fake those logs? [15:59] <@SniperJoe> No, I !@#$@#$ can't. [15:59] <@SniperJoe> None of this makes any sense. [15:59] <%Wolfprince> what is the MO Why would he do it? 01[15:59] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> hence the lack of an MO 03[16:02] * Deebo[BFF] (chatzilla@D482FC14.81F41BF6.F28BBE0C.IP) has joined #bloodforgov 03[16:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Deebo[BFF] [16:02] <@Deebo[BFF]> o [16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> whats going on/ [16:03] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Sup !@#$%* 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114761&st=140"]http://forums.cybern...c=114761&st=140[/url] 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> that [16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> and again why wasn't I told? 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I wasn't either [16:03] <@SniperJoe> Because shti happens rapidly. [16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> who is leon 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I tried to log in and my account was restricted 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Chax, bro [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> well [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> see [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> this is what needs to happen [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> I need to be told 01[16:04] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe: [url="http://i.imgur.com/YguDv.jpg"]http://i.imgur.com/YguDv.jpg[/url] [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> I thought this !@#$ was put in the open a while back 01[16:05] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Deebo, I agree 01[16:05] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I wish I'd been told before I was chastised on the OWf, too [16:05] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> That cat is creepy as $%&@ [16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> yes [16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> again 01[16:06] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol [16:06] <@SniperJoe> That is not what I meant [16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> we've made ourselves look like a bunch of slapdicks infront of the international community [16:06] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Also: RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, good choice 01[16:06] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and JFK reloaded [16:06] <@SniperJoe> It was unavoidable, robster or someone was gonna leak it. 01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> which is a game (free) in which you kill JFK 01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> loads of fun, would recommend [16:07] <@Deebo[BFF]> see 01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe, what do you want a screen of? [16:09] <@SniperJoe> I want you to let me remote access your computer and take screenshots of your Facebook exchange with vibi. 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> good lord 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you know I'm !@#$@#$ paranoid bro 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you know how hard it was for me to let Nas do it the first time? 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I don't really trust you enough right now. no offense. [16:09] <@SniperJoe> Then I don't know what to tell you. 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I don't know what else there is to say [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> I still [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> Dont know what is going on 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> johnap88[BFF|DoD] 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> if joe sees my desktop, will that convince you? [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> if I can get a tl;dr [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> that would be fantastic 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Robster and vibi made fake screens 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> showed them to BFF 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> ????? 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> profit 01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> GODDAMNIT WHY ARE ALL THE !@#$POSTERS ON THE OWF TAKING MY SIDE? 01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Don't they know that HURTS my defense? [16:12] <@Deebo[BFF]> why the blue $%&@ are we listening to Robster? [16:12] <@SniperJoe> literally magicninja 01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol [16:12] <@SniperJoe> TheDon got a screencap of vibi's Facebook, Deebo [16:12] <@Deebo[BFF]> the guy who has wanted to roll us the past 4 wars [16:12] <@SniperJoe> And those screens look sketchy as hell [16:13] <@SniperJoe> But AGAIN [16:13] <@SniperJoe> Not the time or place. [16:13] <@Deebo[BFF]> I think it should be considered in high evidence that Robster can't be trusted 01[16:15] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Thank you Deebo [16:16] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Joe and Boris, please check your forum inboxes [16:16] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> BRB [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> more or less [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> I want to know why the post on the OWF was posted [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> that was a goddamn joke [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> because you see [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> I have to build these bridges back with the world [16:16] <@SniperJoe> I !@#$@#$ told you why. [16:16] <@SniperJoe> Read. [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> you didn't [16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> say not one goddamn word why you decided to post it on the OWF [16:17] <@SniperJoe> IF WE DIDN'T IT WOULD HAVE LEAKED ANYWAY AND THIS ALLOWS US TO CONTROL THE PERSPECTIVE [16:17] <@SniperJoe> k? [16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> how was it going to leak [16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> robster? [16:18] <@SniperJoe> That or someone else. [16:18] <@SniperJoe> It was already out there. [16:18] <@Deebo[BFF]> we should have it be [16:19] <@Deebo[BFF]> our image has been so damnaged this month [16:19] <@SniperJoe> We should have allowed Robster or whoever to paint it however they damn well please? [16:19] <@SniperJoe> $%&@ no. [16:19] <@SniperJoe> I made the right decision for BFF, sorry. 04[16:20] <%Wolfprince> We acted in haste! now we have to live with it. But I see know reason YET to treat CHAX as a traitor! [16:20] <@SniperJoe> We didn't act with haste. [16:20] <@Deebo[BFF]> well [16:20] <@SniperJoe> And nobody is treating him as a traitor. [16:20] <@SniperJoe> People are pissed off and being dramatic. [16:20] <%Wolfprince> then we disagree on that [16:20] <@SniperJoe> And we're not having a trial until people are calm. [16:21] <%Wolfprince> Make a thread where he can defend himself against these charges 01[16:21] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Okay, this is my final say in the matter, please here me out and record this for trial purposes: 01[16:21] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have not now, or have I ever fabricated logs, screenshots, or anything of that matter. I have given my word to several of you, several of my closest IC and OOC friends, that I have not lied. 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have engaged in shady dealings in the past, that much cannot be claimed to the contrary. However, I implore you to contact Muddog and ask him if I was anything but truthful when questioned. 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have provided screenshots proving my side of the story 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop has been remotely accessed by a third party, further proving my side of the story. 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have no MO to lie about this; Vibi and co do. 01[16:23] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> There is nothing more I can say, do, or send that will provide further evidence short of allowing one of you to log into my facebook account, which will not happen. 01[16:23] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> At the end of the day, my personal OOC security comes before IC matters. I will not be letting anybody remote access my desktop again. This is a wild goose chase; a witch hunt. I will not entertain it further. 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> On a final note, should this show trial fall against me, I will be resigning my membership in BFF effective immediately and permanently, as well as my membership in Cybernations. 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Ball is in your court. If I am to be given a fair trial and allowed to see the forums once more, somebody should inform me via text message. 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Respectfully signed, 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Ernesto Che Guevara -- "Chax" 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Founder, leader, and friend of BFF [16:25] <@SniperJoe> I've said 100 times to just wait and that it was going to happen. [16:25] <@Deebo[BFF]> I feel I should say this, no member below the rank of director will post in that OWF thread 01[16:25] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> 'till then, in the words of so many before me: toodles, cupcake Session Close: Mon Jan 14 16:25:25 2013 Session Start: Mon Jan 14 16:25:25 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 02[16:25] * Disconnected Session Close: Mon Jan 14 16:25:28 2013 Session Start: Mon Jan 14 20:28:18 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 03[20:28] * Now talking in #bloodforgov 03[20:28] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead' 03[20:28] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44 03[20:28] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF] 01[20:28] <&Chax[BFF]> Is everybody here? [20:28] <@SniperJoe> Yes. 03[20:29] * &Turetel[FEAR] (pollster.u@277B8F40.42DE7F9E.6534539E.IP) has left #bloodforgov [20:34] <@constable|BFF> i dont think i have limped more people on the boards before tonight [20:34] <@constable|BFF> except spaar [20:34] <@SniperJoe> Limped? [20:35] <@constable|BFF> limp dick a post [20:35] <@SniperJoe> Ah 03[20:35] * DarkFox (Mibbit@coldfront-77D0A4F5.or.wavecable.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[20:35] * ChanServ sets mode: +o DarkFox 06[20:35] * &TheDon125 hands DarkFox a bucket [20:36] <@DarkFox> what will you have me do with it bro [20:36] <&TheDon125> start bailing [20:36] <&TheDon125> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?board=116.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...php?board=116.0[/url] [20:36] <@DarkFox> mmm [20:37] <@SniperJoe> Start trying to throw the water off this sinking ship 04[20:37] <@DarkFox> $%&@ that. Chax and those who want to keep BFF alive will need me [20:37] <@SniperJoe> Or don't, I don't give a $%&@ anymore [20:37] <&TheDon125> Wrong form of bailing, DarkFox [20:37] <@Deebo[BFF]> lol [20:37] <&TheDon125> as in, start heaving water out [20:38] <@DarkFox> i see lol [20:38] <@Deebo[BFF]> well lets see [20:38] <@Deebo[BFF]> whats next? 04[20:38] <@DarkFox> well I got Chax's back until things stabilize. Though I am regretting leaving IRON. [20:38] <@DarkFox> could sit back and gain tech there with no work [20:38] <@constable|BFF> blame deebo? [20:38] <&TheDon125> Well, obviously this won't be the end of people leaving BFF 01[20:38] <&Chax[BFF]> Sorry we had a fire drill 01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay, who all here is staying? 04[20:39] <&TheDon125> Chax[BFF]: I'd suggest returning to the fire drill, sounds like it'd be more fun 01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Because I was literally just about to resign from CN 01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Nah, it's over. [20:41] <@DarkFox> the inactives wont even realize anything happened [20:41] <@DarkFox> we will lose a good chunk of NS though [20:41] <@DarkFox> probably forums too Session Close: Mon Jan 14 20:46:30 2013 Session Start: Mon Jan 14 20:46:30 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 02[20:46] * Disconnected 02[20:48] * Attempting to rejoin channel #bloodforgov 03[20:53] * Rejoined channel #bloodforgov 03[20:53] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead' 03[20:53] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44 03[20:53] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF] 01[20:53] <&Chax[BFF]> forgot to identify 01[20:53] <&Chax[BFF]> :x [20:54] <@constable|BFF> my name is constable and I'm an alcoholic. i ride through life on the wings of a pegasus through a sea of electricity. I have no idea what the $%&@ is going on [20:54] <@SniperJoe> I !@#$@#$ love you [20:54] <@constable|BFF> so anyone want to chat [20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> I'm going to peel an orange [20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> and eat it [20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> then brb [20:55] <&TheDon125> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114771"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=114771[/url] [20:56] <&TheDon125> FEAR now re-exists [20:56] <@constable|BFF> yeah i know [20:57] <~Lord_Boris> I love how people are raging at me for not being online because I was having a planned evening out with my better half. [20:57] <~Lord_Boris> You people really are a lost cause. [20:57] <@constable|BFF> so roll Sentinel? 01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> Well yeah 01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> obvs [b][20:58] <@DarkFox> You start !@#$ and disappear. Then call us the lost cause. You worry me bro. [/b] 01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> for now, we sit tight [20:58] <@SniperJoe> I wasn't raging if you're talking about me [20:58] <@SniperJoe> Just crying in desperation 03[20:59] * %Ovidsidios (Mibbit@coldfront-8686181E.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has left #bloodforgov [21:27] <&TheDon125> Well gents, guess it's my turn to depart. [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> that was fast 03[21:28] * TheDon125 is now known as TheDon125|afk 01[21:28] <&Chax[BFF]> lol 01[21:28] <&Chax[BFF]> I think he meant from IRC [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> oh [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> well [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> $%&@ [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> me [b][21:29] <&TheDon125|afk> Also, motion to have trial suspended for reason of we kinda need a functioning gov.[/b] [21:48] <@DarkFox> that makes too much sense [21:48] <@DarkFox> have a good one Don 01[21:49] <&Chax[BFF]> lol 02[21:50] * @constable|BFF (Mibbit@coldfront-5469281F.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: [url="http://www.mibbit.com"]http://www.mibbit.com[/url] ajax IRC Client) 03[21:59] * TheDon125|afk is now known as TheDon125 Session Close: Mon Jan 14 22:05:56 2013 The above logs show how dead-set things were against me from the get-go. The trial thread was never created. I was upset, sure, but I woke up to find myself locked out of our forums with the accusations leveled against me. The trial thread never ended up happening; people jumped ship for FEAR before the trial could start. Boris did what he could, but with those who would sit on the trial already gone...why would he even try anymore? I fault him not at all. He did his best, but he has RL stuff to deal with. I'd like to take the time to clear the air on a few issues as well. To my former comrades in BFF: I tried, boys. I tried to do the best for the alliance. I was prepared to leave and take the blame for all this, admit to what I hadn't done, but FEAR's people split off while I was typing my post on the OWF. I was going to do what was best for all of you. I'm sorry things ended the way they did. Good luck in the future. You're always friends in my heart. On D34th: Yeah, he's being sorta dickish in this thread, but to be absolutely fair, I've spent the last month or so attacking everything he's posted. Why? I didn't agree with him IC, but I was still being a jerk. D34th, I'm sorry about that. I understand your animosity and it's entirely deserved. On Goldie/VE: I was quick recently to piss on VE, especially Goldie. However, from his perspective, it appeared (and still does) that I flatout lied to his face and made him look like a fool on the OWF by supporting me. I understand their position and I apologize for putting them in a tough situation. I still affirm that I was innocent, but it was wrong of me to lash out against them. Fight or flight reaction, even in CN. I shiver to think I just made that comparison and it'll be weeks before I forgive myself for comparing CN to an RL fight. But to reiterate: Goldie, I am sorry. You did nothing wrong, and I still see you as a friend. On Sniper Joe: As I've said time and time again, your hand was forced. I love you, bro. Someday you'll move to Oregon and we'll snuggle or something. Haha gross. To The International: I wish the merger had gone smoother. We inadvertently got you all !@#$ on, too. You've been the most supportive allies anybody could ask for this entire time. Love you guys. To ODN and GOONS, as well as Prototype: Much line Int, you've been there for us the entire time. In past alliances I've seen allies bail in times of conflict. You're truly better than that. I wish you the best of luck. Also roll Sardonic. To VE and Deinos: My Dinohouse Brethren, I wish we could forget this, go back, and roll UPN together or something. We started our venture with high hopes for our future, but it's sorta dashed now. I'll keep in touch with you all (Chey wouldn't let me walk away, obviously, so I'll be around IRC sometimes). See the end of this message for more info. To MK: You guys came outta left field, you really did. I wish I could say I'd join you as so many have asked me to, but I think I'm well and truly done for at least a few months. AllahArchon, I thank you for blessing us with CN, and your noble servant the Citadel of Infinity has been nothing but kind to me in the last few weeks. I don't care what people say, you're good friends and cool people. To NEW: We'll never agree on those logs, but you guys were stellar allies in the past. From my beginnings with Margi to my last conversation with Coekrix (ask him for the logs, they're much too vulgar for these forums), you've always had a special place in my heart. Too bad things ended so poorly. To TORN: So thick. I'll miss you guys. Thickness, we still need to talk about the male anatomy more sometime. To Sentinel, UPN in particular, MCXA and The Legion: You guys were good sparring partners. Sorry for the animosity between us, OOC I've always thought you were a pretty cool bunch. IC I hated you (Sentinel) but that's the game, ya know? And despite my best efforts I couldn't make you all lose heart. Damn you. To my former PnL mates in CCC and NADC, among others: The recent outpouring of support was surprising, but pleasant. You were solid blocmates, damn the haters. I'll miss ya. Invicta: You're not done with me, shut your !@#$@#$ mouths. I'm still doing Jorost Radio, you've yet to see the last of me. Roll Nas. If I've forgotten you, I apologize. This is a big enough wall of text as it is. This should have been my OP but I was too emotional at the time. CN is srsbsns. To Hiro, Schatt, and all the others I've argued with on the OWF and talked peace with later in PM, you guys are legit. Thanks for not letting IC carry into OOC. I'll monitor these forums for a while more to see how my old comrades are doing. And let me reaffirm that if NEW hits BFF as rumor states, my meager warchest will be rolling against them. edit: Language, warning. Recent events have left me feeling this way, and I hope for a chance to carry it out. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQzZbNxZZ0"]https://www.youtube....h?v=dgQzZbNxZZ0[/url] For those who wish to stay in touch, I'm MrChax09 on Skype and Steam. toodles, cupcakes. Edited January 16, 2013 by Ernesto Che Guevara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Joe Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Oh man, this is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358329231' post='3077440'] Speaking of apologies, I'm sorry to report that a good RL friend of mine, Jonny Montana, lacks an account on the forums these days. He wanted me to say "Death comes to D34th" or something along those lines. Enjoy. [/quote] I cant believe someone actually got so upset at D34th they attacked the guy. Shame to your friend for the ego boost he has provided. I have not followed up on much of the BFF stuff but sorry to see you leaving the game for reasons that appear to be not of your own wishes. A friend of mine (similar situation founder of an alliance that got thrown under the bus) went through the same thing. I tried to talk him out of deleting but failed. He came back a few months later and had to start all over. I'll offer the same advise I gave him, you'll feel differently about this when more time has passed. Right now it appears you are letting people you've never probably cared what they thought get to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Nakara Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358371809' post='3077677'] For those who care to see what I was welcomed to, here is my last set of logs from our gov channel. Session Start: Mon Jan 14 13:12:33 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 03[13:12] * Now talking in #bloodforgov 03[13:12] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead' 03[13:12] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44 03[13:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF] 03[13:13] * Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@coldfront-C42767C0.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) has joined #bloodforgov 03[13:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Turetel[BFF] Turetel[BFF] 01[13:13] <&Chax[BFF]> Really now? 01[13:13] <&Chax[BFF]> I can't even see what I'm on trial for? [13:14] <%Ovidsidios> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1021.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1021.0[/url] 01[13:14] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, I'm demasked [13:15] <%Ovidsidios> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114761&st=0"]http://forums.cybern...pic=114761&st=0[/url] [13:15] <@SniperJoe> Ugh [13:15] <@SniperJoe> Boris probably [13:15] <@SniperJoe> Oh yeah, the trail !@#$ 01[13:20] <&Chax[BFF]> Sooooo [b]01[13:21] <&Chax[BFF]> Are we going to discuss this, or am I just kicked out, thrown into the mud and done?[/b] [b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> We're going to discuss it.[/b] [b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> I don't want to kick you out.[/b] [b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> And if anyone else does they can $%&@ off.[/b] [b][13:21] <%Ovidsidios> but you better have a damn good explanation[/b] [b][13:22] <@DarkFox> If there is any evidence to begin with[/b] [b]01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> I provided logs for you[/b] [13:22] <@DarkFox> Facebook chat is hardly consistent 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> and I'm kicked out 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> that's my explanation 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> Exactly what Fox said [13:22] <%Ovidsidios> well then, we're just gonna have to wait for the trial 01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox know sme IRL 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> In the meantime, my name is dragged through the mud, my reputation irreparibly damaged, and our entire alliance made to look awful [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Why do the pictures look edited? 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> a trial I can't even take part in, so nevermind justice [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Nevermind, not the place to discuss it. 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> They don't? [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Relax. 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> Relax? 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> hah. 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> $%&@ that. [13:23] <@SniperJoe> Boris took the limited access thing to remove your access to everything aparently 01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> This is my payment for all the hours I put in for this alliance? [13:23] <@SniperJoe> We have to create a new subforum for this !@#$ [13:24] <@SniperJoe> Dude, this is not gonna help. 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> And you think throwing me under the bus will? 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> You could have said "We are discussing something involving the NEW matter, blah blah blah" 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> instead of coming out and saying that I'd committed a crime before it's even been decided [13:26] <@SniperJoe> Then Robster leaks everything [13:26] <@SniperJoe> Spins it however he wants 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> And we say we're discussing it! [13:26] <@SniperJoe> The jackals jump all over it 01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> Nobody listens to Robster anyway [13:26] <@SniperJoe> It ends up way worse [13:26] <@SniperJoe> !@#$%^&*,t hey listen to anyone [13:27] <@DarkFox> off topic but I think I just secured us some sellers! [13:27] <@SniperJoe> LOL [13:28] <@SniperJoe> Well done DarkFox. 04[13:28] <@DarkFox> GPF said there is a good chance. So its mostly Chax's doing [13:28] <@DarkFox> I just need to sweet talk them [13:30] <@SniperJoe> Alright 01[13:30] <&Chax[BFF]> GPF probably won't sell to us, I lied, right? [13:30] <@DarkFox> I'll let you know when you lie. [13:30] <@DarkFox> Until then $%&@ it [b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox, have I ever lied to you IRL?[/b] [b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> Hell, I worked for your family.[/b] [b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> I handled money on a daily basis. Have I ever lied?[/b] [13:32] <@SniperJoe> You can prove us all wrong later. 01[13:32] <&Chax[BFF]> And when I do, I want a full written apology from all of you sharks on the OWF 01[13:32] <&Chax[BFF]> as well as BOris's resignation [13:33] <@SniperJoe> Whoa now [b][13:33] <%Ovidsidios> You will get nothing more than what is written in our charter[/b] [b]04[13:33] <@DarkFox> No Chax. I cant say you ever lied to me.[/b] [13:34] <@SniperJoe> Chill Ovid 01[13:34] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, Ovid, with all due respect, go $%&@ yourself. [b]04[13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you go $%&@ urself chax[/b] 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Wow John, that's kind of you [13:35] <@DarkFox> John go take a walk [13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> no 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Yo've been stabbing people in the back for a week now [b][13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> your not my boss[/b] 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> like leaking Joe and Fox's logs to Deebo 01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> They trusted you and you sold them out to get elected next term [b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> like hell i am running[/b] [b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i rather deal with reform instead[/b] 04[13:36] <%Ovidsidios> Chax[BFF]: we are ruled by our charter [b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> so cut the sociopath theatrics [/b] [13:37] <@SniperJoe> All of you go take a walk. [13:37] <@SniperJoe> John, don't og there. 01[13:37] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, our charter calls for a free trial [13:37] <@SniperJoe> There will be one. 01[13:37] <&Chax[BFF]> Magicninja has my back more than my own allies [13:39] <%Ovidsidios> SniperJoe: keeps telling you there will be a trial [13:39] <%Ovidsidios> and you make us out to be inquisitors 01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Usually there's a trial before they release the verdic, bud. 01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Innocent until proven guilty [b][13:39] <%Ovidsidios> there is no verdict[/b] [b]01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> This is the opposite[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> Its on the OWF, champ[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> THat's a verdic[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> it doesn't say "We're investigating this"[/b] [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> it says "He played us"[/b] [b][13:40] <%Ovidsidios> I respectively diagree[/b] 01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> things like that [13:40] <%Ovidsidios> the evidense proves this [13:40] <@SniperJoe> Uh [13:40] <@SniperJoe> It actually says that we're going to have a trial [13:40] <%Ovidsidios> ^^^^^ 01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay, keep thinking that. [b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> But the OWF post clearly doesn't have an air of neutrality[/b] [13:41] <@SniperJoe> Dude. [b][13:41] <%Ovidsidios> That's just media[/b] [13:41] <@SniperJoe> I did what was best for BFF. 01[13:41] <&Chax[BFF]> That's just media, ovid? 01[13:41] <&Chax[BFF]> This whole game is media [13:42] <%Ovidsidios> even the thoughts within an alliance? [13:42] <%Ovidsidios> what they think and what we know [13:42] <@DarkFox> Did anyone make a tech seller mask for me? [13:42] <%Ovidsidios> are not the same [13:42] <@DarkFox> Need one of those and a moderator mask for GPF 01[13:42] <&Chax[BFF]> Well Ovid, if I could see the trial, or at least the forums to discuss it, that'd be different 01[13:42] <&Chax[BFF]> but I can't. [13:43] <%Ovidsidios> because that's in our charter, the trial wont start without you [13:43] <%Ovidsidios> so you needn't worry about this trial happening just yet [13:43] <%Ovidsidios> as it hasn't [13:43] <@SniperJoe> ffs [13:43] <@DarkFox> Was the Ombudsman contacted? [13:43] <@SniperJoe> Boris changed your mask [13:43] <@SniperJoe> subforum hasn't been created [13:43] <@SniperJoe> chill [13:44] <%Ovidsidios> in accordance with our charter 01[13:44] <&Chax[BFF]> The charter doesn't say anything about posting on the OWF first. 01[13:44] <&Chax[BFF]> The charter doesn't say anything about throwing me in a metaphorical prison and then deciding who is right and who is wrong [13:45] <%Ovidsidios> Article IV: Rage 4.1)"...If approved by any one member of the Neapolitan Council or the Ombudsman, the member will then be placed on a restricted access level and given three days and a private section of the forum to plead their case." [13:45] <%Ovidsidios> three days have not even begun [13:45] <%Ovidsidios> nor the private section created [b]01[13:45] <&Chax[BFF]> so why do we post on the OWF?[/b] [b]01[13:45] <&Chax[BFF]> instead of saying !@#$ is underway, why am I being called guilty?[/b] [b][13:46] <@SniperJoe> Because it was the right thing to do for BFF.[/b] [b][13:46] <%Ovidsidios> SniperJoe: has already mentioned time and time again to avoid further damage to our already delicate alliance[/b] [b][13:46] <%Ovidsidios> further the opinions of others will bear no input on the trial[/b] 01[13:46] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay. Well, if I'm innocent, there are going to be some massive, massive changes. [13:46] <%Ovidsidios> yes [13:46] <%Ovidsidios> indeed there will be 01[13:46] <&Chax[BFF]> and some goddamned good apologies. [13:49] <@SniperJoe> EVERY LITTLE THING [13:49] <@SniperJoe> IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT 01[13:50] <&Chax[BFF]> I'm going to clear my name and then I'm probably leaving BFF and CN 01[13:50] <&Chax[BFF]> $%&@ you guys if this is my payment 02[14:04] * &Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@coldfront-C42767C0.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) Quit (Quit: ) 01[14:07] <&Chax[BFF]> So what makes more sense here? That I'd fabricate logs to create stress for Joe and I, or that NEW/Kaskus would fabricate them to clear their names? [14:07] <@SniperJoe> Both explanations make no goddamn sense to me. [14:07] <%Ovidsidios> we are not speculating anything until the trial [14:07] <%Ovidsidios> this is not the place for that kind of discussion [[b]14:08] <@DarkFox> Should not even be a trial without the Ombudsman [/b] [b]04[14:08] <@DarkFox> should not have even demasked Chax before MoSW was constacted[/b] [b][14:08] <@DarkFox> contacted'[/b] [b][14:09] <@DarkFox> for that matter a member of the NC being put on trial was not even covered in our charter[/b] [b][14:10] <%Ovidsidios> but the Ombudsman clause would cover that[/b] [b][14:10] <@DarkFox> So all of this was premature since I don't see MoSW and there obviously wasn't a talk to the complete government since Deebo and I weren't here.[/b] [b][14:11] <@SniperJoe> Read section 4.1[/b] [b][14:11] <@DarkFox> Yes only one member of the NC can start the trial[/b] [b][14:12] <@DarkFox> but now we are running with only 2 NC[/b] [14:14] <@SniperJoe> Huh? [14:19] <@DarkFox> what I am getting at is it maybe fully legal, but that doesnt make it right [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> those are two incomparable words in this situation as neither what is legal need be right nor what is right need be legal [14:20] <@DarkFox> I agree [14:20] <@DarkFox> we didnt plan for this though [14:20] <@DarkFox> and how could we? [14:20] <@DarkFox> Mistrust among the NC? [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> ^indeed [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> ^allegedly [14:20] <%Ovidsidios> we needn't jump to conclusions yet [14:20] <@DarkFox> Tell me a week ago this would have happened and I would have thought that you lost it 01[14:21] <&Chax[BFF]> lol jumping to conclusions 01[14:21] <&Chax[BFF]> glad we haven't done that today [14:21] <%Ovidsidios> well those in charge haven't [14:21] <@DarkFox> in any case we need an acting NC 04[14:21] <@DarkFox> while Chax is detained [14:21] <@SniperJoe> Boris and I are the NC. [14:22] <@SniperJoe> It doesn't say anything about an emergency election or anything. [14:22] <%Ovidsidios> our charter does not accommodate such a revision of our NC [14:22] <%Ovidsidios> the ombudsman will be enough to handle things from here on out [14:23] <@SniperJoe> Puh [14:23] <@DarkFox> he just logged on [14:23] <@DarkFox> give him access to the govt channel and I will get him in [14:24] <@SniperJoe> Nick? [14:24] <@DarkFox> minister_of_silly_walks|bff [14:25] <@DarkFox> he needs access to both here and the private channel [14:25] <%Ovidsidios> which he needs to register his name [14:25] <%Ovidsidios> because it's been longer than 30 days [14:25] <%Ovidsidios> (maybe) [14:26] <@DarkFox> it is registered [14:28] <%Ovidsidios> then someone send him an invite [14:28] <@SniperJoe> Someone add him, I' dealign with everyone in this !@#$@#$ ame 01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> So when is this trial starting? 01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> After 12 hours of slander? 01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> or the full 24? [14:29] <@DarkFox> I dont know the command to give access [14:31] <%Ovidsidios> same [14:32] <@SniperJoe> ./cs access #channel nick level [14:32] <@SniperJoe> 30 for voice and I think any of you could add him at that level 01[14:32] <&Chax[BFF]> I like how my guilt is hinging on whether or not I let somebody from CN have access to my computer 01[14:33] <&Chax[BFF]> I don't even let my best friends IRL onto my computer 01[14:33] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox knows this. I leave the table for 30 seconds and I lock it 05[14:34] -frozen.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- DarkFox invited Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF into the channel. 03[14:34] * Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF (chatzilla@coldfront-5352DD42.satx.res.rr.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF [14:34] <@DarkFox> there we !@#$@#$ go [14:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> !@#$@#$ finall [14:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> y 01[14:34] <&Chax[BFF]> welcome to the trial. [14:35] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Things people have never said to me before... 01[14:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Before we begin, I'd like to remind the ombudsman of the rules here; we are following the guidelines put in place by Joseph Stalin, so keep that in mind. 01[14:35] <&Chax[BFF]> This trial shall follow a similar route to those he has held, with as much consideration for the accused as was affored in the aforementioned trials. 01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> ITS FUNNY BECAUSE I'M GETTING SHAFTED [14:36] <%Ovidsidios> this channel is not the location of the trial 01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> it's a joke, Ovid [14:36] <%Ovidsidios> not the time or the place 01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> I'm comparing BFF's legal system to that of the former soviet union [14:37] <@SniperJoe> My name is Joe... [14:37] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> ...and you are an alcoholic? [b]03[14:38] * Chax[BFF] is now known as Leon_Trotsky|BFF [/b](Edit: Bolded to show when my nick changed) [14:38] <@SniperJoe> No, I am literally Stalin 01[14:38] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> More fitting imo 01[14:38] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> (not you, joe. lol) [14:39] <@SniperJoe> I know, just making a joke [14:39] <@DarkFox> I blame one person for this joke. [14:39] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Jokes have been forbidden by the Justice Tribunal of Justice [14:39] <@DarkFox> and I don't mean the attempts of humor here 01[14:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> "justice" 01[14:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> If the glove don't fit, throw him in jail anyway [14:41] <@DarkFox> and yet the blocks still fall from the sky 03[14:41] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +b *!tiramisu@*.ctvea.net 03[14:41] * Wolfprince was kicked by ChanServ (You are not permitted to be on this channel.) [14:42] <@SniperJoe> Someone add WP [14:44] <@DarkFox> done 05[14:44] -snow.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- DarkFox invited Wolfprince into the channel. 03[14:44] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:44] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Wolfprince [14:44] <+Wolfprince> well activity is up [14:45] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> lol 01[14:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> all I wanted to do was wake up, go to class, come back and talk to Sniperjoe while i masturbate 01[14:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> now I've got this $%&@ign icepick in my back to deal with [14:45] <@SniperJoe> Dude [14:45] <@SniperJoe> I had a !@#$@#$ awesome day [14:45] <@SniperJoe> And I wanted to talk to you about it too [14:45] <@SniperJoe> Now I have a headache. 02[14:45] * +Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) Quit (Client exited) [14:46] <@DarkFox> I too had a wonderful day. One of my close friends getting $%&@ed. Great times. [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> I've had a miserable morning, and now an even !@#$tier day [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> let's get that private subforum up [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> this trial over with [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> and back to !@#$@#$ nothing [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> cause this over activity [14:47] <%Ovidsidios> is straight up dumb 01[14:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe, all I wanted to do was masturbate and talk to you [14:48] <@DarkFox> masturbate "while" talking with you [14:48] <@SniperJoe> lol 03[14:52] * SniperJoe sets mode: -b *!tiramisu@*.ctvea.net 01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Well yeah 01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> how else will I cum? 05[14:52] -snow.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- SniperJoe invited Wolfprince into the channel. 03[14:52] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[14:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +h Wolfprince 01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> WHo put boris on trial? [14:52] <%Wolfprince> Howl!! [14:53] <@SniperJoe> What? [14:53] <@SniperJoe> Jesus $%&@ [14:53] <@SniperJoe> You're all demons and this is hell. 01[14:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> so 01[14:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I read that as "You're all deinos and this is hell" [14:55] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> You play CN too much 01[14:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol 02[14:55] * %Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) Quit (Client exited) [14:56] <@SniperJoe> Story of my life [14:56] <@DarkFox> lol para 03[14:59] * @SniperJoe (SniperJoe@coldfront-8174244A.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) has left #bloodforgov 03[15:01] * SniperJoe (SniperJoe@coldfront-8174244A.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o SniperJoe 02[15:04] * @DarkFox (Mibbit@coldfront-77D0A4F5.or.wavecable.com) Quit (Quit: [url="http://www.mibbit.com"]http://www.mibbit.com[/url] ajax IRC Client) 03[15:15] * Wolfprince (WebGuest26@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +h Wolfprince 03[15:24] * Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|BFF Lord_Boris|BFF 02[15:25] * ~Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) 02[15:25] * ~Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) 03[15:26] * Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|BFF Lord_Boris|BFF 04[15:32] <%Wolfprince> how is supposed to set up the thread/mask chax so he can defend himself and speak to the alliance?? [15:32] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Boris I believe has already taken it upon himself to do that [15:32] <%Wolfprince> link don't 03[15:32] * Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@277B8F40.42DE7F9E.6534539E.IP) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:32] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Turetel[BFF] Turetel[BFF] [15:33] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1021.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1021.0[/url] [b]01[15:33] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I'm going to let a neutral 3rd party remote my desktop[/b] [b]01[15:33] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> since that's apparently required in the land of injustice[/b] [15:33] <@SniperJoe> There we go. 04[15:34] <%Wolfprince> Chax cant see that thread can he? [15:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> He cannot [15:35] <%Wolfprince> WTF [15:35] <%Wolfprince> There is suppose to be a thread made (which) he can see where we get his side of this cluster$%&@ [15:36] <@SniperJoe> The subforum hasn't been created. [15:36] <@SniperJoe> Everyone !@#$@#$ relax. [15:36] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> The trial is on hold until we re-write a section of the charter [15:36] <%Wolfprince> I will relax when we do right by our member [15:37] <%Wolfprince> He has been accused, He deserves a place to defend himself [15:37] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Wolf don't worry. he will get it [15:37] <@SniperJoe> No it's not, what are you talking about? [15:38] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1028.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1028.0[/url] [15:38] <@SniperJoe> Boris help me ;_; [15:39] <%Wolfprince> we are splintering apart over this dumb !@#$ and need to have a thread where he can speak to all members [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> RushSykes|TLR I've seen Chax's desktop[/b] [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> made him refresh to prove he didn't edit the html[/b] [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> he didn't fake them[/b] [b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you can all call on Nas if you want[/b] [15:39] <@SniperJoe> Are [15:39] <@SniperJoe> you [15:39] <@SniperJoe> !@#$@#$ [15:39] <@SniperJoe> kidding me [15:39] <@SniperJoe> This never ends. [15:40] <@SniperJoe> This is the rest of my life. 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Spergatory 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you earned it 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> all that masturbating, bro 01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you had to know that sin would sting you [15:41] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> Yet Don had skype with vibi and had shown this [url="https://www.dropbox.com/s/2bv2synkmkvaizh/ChaxFiltered.bmp"]https://www.dropbox....haxFiltered.bmp[/url] 03[15:42] * Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:42] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|AFK Lord_Boris|AFK 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Cool story Johnap88 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> so now we've got even evidence on either side 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and it's my word against Vibi's 01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and you're going to take his? [15:43] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> seen this last night, right when skype happened 01[15:43] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> okay 01[15:44] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> well this just happened about 5 minutes ago 02[15:44] * ~Lord_Boris|BFF (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [b][15:44] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> nothing can change my mind right now. its really hard to even argue against this[/b] 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> How is that true? 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What makes more sense? That I colluded with Nas to set NEW up so...so Joe and I would have a !@#$storm to deal with? 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Or that NEW is covering their asses with Robster's help so TORN won't leave them for being !@#$bags? [15:45] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> oh please 03[15:45] * Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:45] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris Lord_Boris [15:45] <@SniperJoe> Both of them are ridiculous as !@#$. 01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> John, even when I set Muddog up I didn't lie about it 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I've always been honest 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> that was a !@#$storm I had to deal with and I flatout admitted it [15:46] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you came out cuz people had a problem with it 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> no, i came out because muddog asked me 01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> go ahead and query him about it [15:47] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> cuz people !@#$%*ed to him 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> nobody talked to me before he did 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> why are you so dead-set against me, john? 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> This is starting to smell like a coup 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and you've admitted you wanted an NC spot [15:47] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> oh whatever 01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> prove it isn't. 02[15:47] * ~Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> so anyone who wants to run is 01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I'm convinced this is an attempt to grab power. [15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> wanting a coup? 01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> yup [b][15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> ur $%&@ed in the head[/b] [b]01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> am I?[/b] [b][15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> HELL YES[/b] [b]01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Why are you mad? If you're innocent you shouldn't be mad.[/b] [15:48] <%Wolfprince> children stop the dumb !@#$ 01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Let me remote your desktop and prove it isn't a coup. [15:48] <@SniperJoe> If I ever find out that anyone ever causes me this much trouble to seize power in a goddamn internet game I will hunt them down in real life and strangle them to death. [15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i only wanted to run and made it clear that i felt INTERIOR IS NEGLECTED BY ALL OF YOU [15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> !@#$@#$ A [b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and what's my justification for making this up, john?[/b] [b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> It seems you've got more reason to coup me than I have to fake this.[/b] [b][15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> Evidence shows you lied[/b] [b][15:49] <@SniperJoe> Let's not get dramatic here.[/b] [b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Evidence shows I didn't.[/b] [b][15:49] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Too late[/b] [b][15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> YES[/b] 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> We have equal evidence on both sides 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:40 PM] Nascar8FanGA: Also 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:42 PM] Nascar8FanGA: Bern came to me 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:48 PM] Chax: lol 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:49 PM] Nascar8FanGA: saying he agreed with me 01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:58 PM] Nascar8FanGA: and said it was Robster just trying to hurt you [15:50] <%Wolfprince> there will be no more talk of a coup, dont be childish [b][15:50] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> anyone can !@#$@#$ say that[/b] [b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> can say what?[/b] [b][15:50] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> back his !@#$[/b] [b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> why are you so dead-set against me, dude?[/b] [b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You haven't even tried to listen to me[/b] [b]01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've been nailing me to the cross since before i even came on today[/b] [b][15:51] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i am sick and tired of the theatrics and ur !@#$%^&*[/b] 01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> where's the justice there? 01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> How is this my !@#$%^&*? You didn't even let me talk before you were against me 02[15:51] * ~Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) 03[15:51] * Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:51] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris Lord_Boris [b][15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> why talk? you told us the other side of the story was lies and we found out the truth. why more talk?[/b] 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Did you find the truth? 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Then why have a trial if that's the truth? 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You found a conflicting story, not the truth [b][15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> we are gonna have a trial[/b] 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> conflict =/= negation 01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've already put the noose around my neck there, bud. [b][15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> and you seen a demo of what it is gonna look like[/b] 01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What could I possibly say, show or prove that would change your mind? 01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Yeah. It's gonna look like you already against me. [b][15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you better get one hell of a lawyer[/b] 01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> is that what you're saying? [15:53] <@SniperJoe> He has Mogar. [15:53] <@SniperJoe> Also, arguing never solves jack !@#$. 01[15:54] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF, in your power as ombudsman I hereby request that you censure Johnap88 for the duration of his trial on grounds of insubordination. Further, I humbly request that he be barred from sitting on the jury in my trial. 01[15:54] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> *this trial [15:54] <@SniperJoe> Now, see [15:55] <@SniperJoe> This is the kind of !@#$%^&* that just makes things worse. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> This is ridiculous. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Are you all not even trying to see my perspective here? [15:55] <@SniperJoe> I am. [15:55] <@SniperJoe> I'm also being objective. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You all had your minds made up before i even came on IRC. Hence the Trotsky nick. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> we are gonna have a trial 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> conflict =/= negation 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've already put the noose around my neck there, bud. 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> and you seen a demo of what it is gonna look like 04[15:55] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> I don't have that authority, CHax 01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> He's stating right there that he is going to be against me 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You do, MoSW. In legal proceedings your word is law. [15:56] <@SniperJoe> No, I didn't. [15:56] <@SniperJoe> That's why I'm asking you to provide more evidence. [15:56] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> On the jury thing yes, on the other thing no 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have screenshots [15:56] <@SniperJoe> I'm the last !@#$@#$ person who wants you to be guilty of this crap. 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop has been remote accessed 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You have my word as friend and IC companion 03[15:56] * Lord_Boris|AFK (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[15:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +oq Lord_Boris|AFK Lord_Boris|AFK 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you have no MO against me 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> but the MO is gainst NEW [15:56] <@SniperJoe> vibi has more evidence on his side at this point. 01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What more evidence? [15:57] <@SniperJoe> The screenshot of his desktop. 01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Nas saw my desktop 01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I gave you a screenshot 01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Stalin had a $%&@ton of evidence against Trotsky, that doesn't mean he was right. [15:57] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Guys, none of this decides anything. This isn't the trial [15:57] <@SniperJoe> What you didn't give me is a screenshot of your desktop, and that is what I need. [15:58] <@SniperJoe> And yes, you're right. 01[15:58] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop or the FB message? 02[15:58] * ~Lord_Boris (Lord_Boris@coldfront-30D8CF4A.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [15:58] <@SniperJoe> Your desktop 01[15:59] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> ok...ay. [15:59] <%Wolfprince> can someone explain to me WHY he would fake those logs? [15:59] <@SniperJoe> No, I !@#$@#$ can't. [15:59] <@SniperJoe> None of this makes any sense. [15:59] <%Wolfprince> what is the MO Why would he do it? 01[15:59] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> hence the lack of an MO 03[16:02] * Deebo[BFF] (chatzilla@D482FC14.81F41BF6.F28BBE0C.IP) has joined #bloodforgov 03[16:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Deebo[BFF] [16:02] <@Deebo[BFF]> o [16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> whats going on/ [16:03] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Sup !@#$%* 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114761&st=140"]http://forums.cybern...c=114761&st=140[/url] 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> that [16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> and again why wasn't I told? 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I wasn't either [16:03] <@SniperJoe> Because shti happens rapidly. [16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> who is leon 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I tried to log in and my account was restricted 01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Chax, bro [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> well [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> see [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> this is what needs to happen [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> I need to be told 01[16:04] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe: [url="http://i.imgur.com/YguDv.jpg"]http://i.imgur.com/YguDv.jpg[/url] [16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> I thought this !@#$ was put in the open a while back 01[16:05] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Deebo, I agree 01[16:05] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I wish I'd been told before I was chastised on the OWf, too [16:05] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> That cat is creepy as $%&@ [16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> yes [16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> again 01[16:06] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol [16:06] <@SniperJoe> That is not what I meant [16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> we've made ourselves look like a bunch of slapdicks infront of the international community [16:06] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Also: RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, good choice 01[16:06] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and JFK reloaded [16:06] <@SniperJoe> It was unavoidable, robster or someone was gonna leak it. 01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> which is a game (free) in which you kill JFK 01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> loads of fun, would recommend [16:07] <@Deebo[BFF]> see 01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe, what do you want a screen of? [16:09] <@SniperJoe> I want you to let me remote access your computer and take screenshots of your Facebook exchange with vibi. 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> good lord 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you know I'm !@#$@#$ paranoid bro 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you know how hard it was for me to let Nas do it the first time? 01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I don't really trust you enough right now. no offense. [16:09] <@SniperJoe> Then I don't know what to tell you. 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I don't know what else there is to say [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> I still [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> Dont know what is going on 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> johnap88[BFF|DoD] 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> if joe sees my desktop, will that convince you? [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> if I can get a tl;dr [16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> that would be fantastic 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Robster and vibi made fake screens 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> showed them to BFF 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> ????? 01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> profit 01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> GODDAMNIT WHY ARE ALL THE !@#$POSTERS ON THE OWF TAKING MY SIDE? 01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Don't they know that HURTS my defense? [16:12] <@Deebo[BFF]> why the blue $%&@ are we listening to Robster? [16:12] <@SniperJoe> literally magicninja 01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol [16:12] <@SniperJoe> TheDon got a screencap of vibi's Facebook, Deebo [16:12] <@Deebo[BFF]> the guy who has wanted to roll us the past 4 wars [16:12] <@SniperJoe> And those screens look sketchy as hell [16:13] <@SniperJoe> But AGAIN [16:13] <@SniperJoe> Not the time or place. [16:13] <@Deebo[BFF]> I think it should be considered in high evidence that Robster can't be trusted 01[16:15] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Thank you Deebo [16:16] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Joe and Boris, please check your forum inboxes [16:16] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> BRB [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> more or less [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> I want to know why the post on the OWF was posted [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> that was a goddamn joke [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> because you see [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> I have to build these bridges back with the world [16:16] <@SniperJoe> I !@#$@#$ told you why. [16:16] <@SniperJoe> Read. [16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> you didn't [16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> say not one goddamn word why you decided to post it on the OWF [16:17] <@SniperJoe> IF WE DIDN'T IT WOULD HAVE LEAKED ANYWAY AND THIS ALLOWS US TO CONTROL THE PERSPECTIVE [16:17] <@SniperJoe> k? [16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> how was it going to leak [16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> robster? [16:18] <@SniperJoe> That or someone else. [16:18] <@SniperJoe> It was already out there. [16:18] <@Deebo[BFF]> we should have it be [16:19] <@Deebo[BFF]> our image has been so damnaged this month [16:19] <@SniperJoe> We should have allowed Robster or whoever to paint it however they damn well please? [16:19] <@SniperJoe> $%&@ no. [16:19] <@SniperJoe> I made the right decision for BFF, sorry. 04[16:20] <%Wolfprince> We acted in haste! now we have to live with it. But I see know reason YET to treat CHAX as a traitor! [16:20] <@SniperJoe> We didn't act with haste. [16:20] <@Deebo[BFF]> well [16:20] <@SniperJoe> And nobody is treating him as a traitor. [16:20] <@SniperJoe> People are pissed off and being dramatic. [16:20] <%Wolfprince> then we disagree on that [16:20] <@SniperJoe> And we're not having a trial until people are calm. [16:21] <%Wolfprince> Make a thread where he can defend himself against these charges 01[16:21] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Okay, this is my final say in the matter, please here me out and record this for trial purposes: 01[16:21] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have not now, or have I ever fabricated logs, screenshots, or anything of that matter. I have given my word to several of you, several of my closest IC and OOC friends, that I have not lied. 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have engaged in shady dealings in the past, that much cannot be claimed to the contrary. However, I implore you to contact Muddog and ask him if I was anything but truthful when questioned. 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have provided screenshots proving my side of the story 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop has been remotely accessed by a third party, further proving my side of the story. 01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have no MO to lie about this; Vibi and co do. 01[16:23] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> There is nothing more I can say, do, or send that will provide further evidence short of allowing one of you to log into my facebook account, which will not happen. 01[16:23] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> At the end of the day, my personal OOC security comes before IC matters. I will not be letting anybody remote access my desktop again. This is a wild goose chase; a witch hunt. I will not entertain it further. 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> On a final note, should this show trial fall against me, I will be resigning my membership in BFF effective immediately and permanently, as well as my membership in Cybernations. 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Ball is in your court. If I am to be given a fair trial and allowed to see the forums once more, somebody should inform me via text message. 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Respectfully signed, 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Ernesto Che Guevara -- "Chax" 01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Founder, leader, and friend of BFF [16:25] <@SniperJoe> I've said 100 times to just wait and that it was going to happen. [16:25] <@Deebo[BFF]> I feel I should say this, no member below the rank of director will post in that OWF thread 01[16:25] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> 'till then, in the words of so many before me: toodles, cupcake Session Close: Mon Jan 14 16:25:25 2013 Session Start: Mon Jan 14 16:25:25 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 02[16:25] * Disconnected Session Close: Mon Jan 14 16:25:28 2013 Session Start: Mon Jan 14 20:28:18 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 03[20:28] * Now talking in #bloodforgov 03[20:28] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead' 03[20:28] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44 03[20:28] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF] 01[20:28] <&Chax[BFF]> Is everybody here? [20:28] <@SniperJoe> Yes. 03[20:29] * &Turetel[FEAR] (pollster.u@277B8F40.42DE7F9E.6534539E.IP) has left #bloodforgov [20:34] <@constable|BFF> i dont think i have limped more people on the boards before tonight [20:34] <@constable|BFF> except spaar [20:34] <@SniperJoe> Limped? [20:35] <@constable|BFF> limp dick a post [20:35] <@SniperJoe> Ah 03[20:35] * DarkFox (Mibbit@coldfront-77D0A4F5.or.wavecable.com) has joined #bloodforgov 03[20:35] * ChanServ sets mode: +o DarkFox 06[20:35] * &TheDon125 hands DarkFox a bucket [20:36] <@DarkFox> what will you have me do with it bro [20:36] <&TheDon125> start bailing [20:36] <&TheDon125> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?board=116.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...php?board=116.0[/url] [20:36] <@DarkFox> mmm [20:37] <@SniperJoe> Start trying to throw the water off this sinking ship 04[20:37] <@DarkFox> $%&@ that. Chax and those who want to keep BFF alive will need me [20:37] <@SniperJoe> Or don't, I don't give a $%&@ anymore [20:37] <&TheDon125> Wrong form of bailing, DarkFox [20:37] <@Deebo[BFF]> lol [20:37] <&TheDon125> as in, start heaving water out [20:38] <@DarkFox> i see lol [20:38] <@Deebo[BFF]> well lets see [20:38] <@Deebo[BFF]> whats next? 04[20:38] <@DarkFox> well I got Chax's back until things stabilize. Though I am regretting leaving IRON. [20:38] <@DarkFox> could sit back and gain tech there with no work [20:38] <@constable|BFF> blame deebo? [20:38] <&TheDon125> Well, obviously this won't be the end of people leaving BFF 01[20:38] <&Chax[BFF]> Sorry we had a fire drill 01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay, who all here is staying? 04[20:39] <&TheDon125> Chax[BFF]: I'd suggest returning to the fire drill, sounds like it'd be more fun 01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Because I was literally just about to resign from CN 01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Nah, it's over. [20:41] <@DarkFox> the inactives wont even realize anything happened [20:41] <@DarkFox> we will lose a good chunk of NS though [20:41] <@DarkFox> probably forums too Session Close: Mon Jan 14 20:46:30 2013 Session Start: Mon Jan 14 20:46:30 2013 Session Ident: #bloodforgov 02[20:46] * Disconnected 02[20:48] * Attempting to rejoin channel #bloodforgov 03[20:53] * Rejoined channel #bloodforgov 03[20:53] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead' 03[20:53] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44 03[20:53] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF] 01[20:53] <&Chax[BFF]> forgot to identify 01[20:53] <&Chax[BFF]> :x [20:54] <@constable|BFF> my name is constable and I'm an alcoholic. i ride through life on the wings of a pegasus through a sea of electricity. I have no idea what the $%&@ is going on [20:54] <@SniperJoe> I !@#$@#$ love you [20:54] <@constable|BFF> so anyone want to chat [20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> I'm going to peel an orange [20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> and eat it [20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> then brb [20:55] <&TheDon125> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114771"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=114771[/url] [20:56] <&TheDon125> FEAR now re-exists [20:56] <@constable|BFF> yeah i know [20:57] <~Lord_Boris> I love how people are raging at me for not being online because I was having a planned evening out with my better half. [20:57] <~Lord_Boris> You people really are a lost cause. [20:57] <@constable|BFF> so roll Sentinel? 01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> Well yeah 01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> obvs [b][20:58] <@DarkFox> You start !@#$ and disappear. Then call us the lost cause. You worry me bro. [/b] 01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> for now, we sit tight [20:58] <@SniperJoe> I wasn't raging if you're talking about me [20:58] <@SniperJoe> Just crying in desperation 03[20:59] * %Ovidsidios (Mibbit@coldfront-8686181E.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has left #bloodforgov [21:27] <&TheDon125> Well gents, guess it's my turn to depart. [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> that was fast 03[21:28] * TheDon125 is now known as TheDon125|afk 01[21:28] <&Chax[BFF]> lol 01[21:28] <&Chax[BFF]> I think he meant from IRC [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> oh [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> well [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> $%&@ [21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> me [b][21:29] <&TheDon125|afk> Also, motion to have trial suspended for reason of we kinda need a functioning gov.[/b] [21:48] <@DarkFox> that makes too much sense [21:48] <@DarkFox> have a good one Don 01[21:49] <&Chax[BFF]> lol 02[21:50] * @constable|BFF (Mibbit@coldfront-5469281F.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: [url="http://www.mibbit.com"]http://www.mibbit.com[/url] ajax IRC Client) 03[21:59] * TheDon125|afk is now known as TheDon125 Session Close: Mon Jan 14 22:05:56 2013 The above logs show how dead-set things were against me from the get-go. The trial thread was never created. I was upset, sure, but I woke up to find myself locked out of our forums with the accusations leveled against me. The trial thread never ended up happening; people jumped ship for FEAR before the trial could start. Boris did what he could, but with those who would sit on the trial already gone...why would he even try anymore? I fault him not at all. He did his best, but he has RL stuff to deal with. I'd like to take the time to clear the air on a few issues as well. To my former comrades in BFF: I tried, boys. I tried to do the best for the alliance. I was prepared to leave and take the blame for all this, admit to what I hadn't done, but FEAR's people split off while I was typing my post on the OWF. I was going to do what was best for all of you. I'm sorry things ended the way they did. Good luck in the future. You're always friends in my heart. On D34th: Yeah, he's being sorta dickish in this thread, but to be absolutely fair, I've spent the last month or so attacking everything he's posted. Why? I didn't agree with him IC, but I was still being a jerk. D34th, I'm sorry about that. I understand your animosity and it's entirely deserved. On Goldie/VE: I was quick recently to piss on VE, especially Goldie. However, from his perspective, it appeared (and still does) that I flatout lied to his face and made him look like a fool on the OWF by supporting me. I understand their position and I apologize for putting them in a tough situation. I still affirm that I was innocent, but it was wrong of me to lash out against them. Fight or flight reaction, even in CN. I shiver to think I just made that comparison and it'll be weeks before I forgive myself for comparing CN to an RL fight. But to reiterate: Goldie, I am sorry. You did nothing wrong, and I still see you as a friend. On Sniper Joe: As I've said time and time again, your hand was forced. I love you, bro. Someday you'll move to Oregon and we'll snuggle or something. Haha gross. To The International: I wish the merger had gone smoother. We inadvertently got you all !@#$ on, too. You've been the most supportive allies anybody could ask for this entire time. Love you guys. To ODN and GOONS, as well as Prototype: Much line Int, you've been there for us the entire time. In past alliances I've seen allies bail in times of conflict. You're truly better than that. I wish you the best of luck. Also roll Sardonic. To VE and Deinos: My Dinohouse Brethren, I wish we could forget this, go back, and roll UPN together or something. We started our venture with high hopes for our future, but it's sorta dashed now. I'll keep in touch with you all (Chey wouldn't let me walk away, obviously, so I'll be around IRC sometimes). See the end of this message for more info. To MK: You guys came outta left field, you really did. I wish I could say I'd join you as so many have asked me to, but I think I'm well and truly done for at least a few months. AllahArchon, I thank you for blessing us with CN, and your noble servant the Citadel of Infinity has been nothing but kind to me in the last few weeks. I don't care what people say, you're good friends and cool people. To NEW: We'll never agree on those logs, but you guys were stellar allies in the past. From my beginnings with Margi to my last conversation with Coekrix (ask him for the logs, they're much too vulgar for these forums), you've always had a special place in my heart. Too bad things ended so poorly. To TORN: So thick. I'll miss you guys. Thickness, we still need to talk about the male anatomy more sometime. To Sentinel, UPN in particular, MCXA and The Legion: You guys were good sparring partners. Sorry for the animosity between us, OOC I've always thought you were a pretty cool bunch. IC I hated you (Sentinel) but that's the game, ya know? And despite my best efforts I couldn't make you all lose heart. Damn you. To my former PnL mates in CCC and NADC, among others: The recent outpouring of support was surprising, but pleasant. You were solid blocmates, damn the haters. I'll miss ya. Invicta: You're not done with me, shut your !@#$@#$ mouths. I'm still doing Jorost Radio, you've yet to see the last of me. Roll Nas. If I've forgotten you, I apologize. This is a big enough wall of text as it is. This should have been my OP but I was too emotional at the time. CN is srsbsns. [b]To Hiro, Schatt, and all the others I've argued with on the OWF and talked peace with later in PM, you guys are legit. Thanks for not letting IC carry into OOC.[/b] I'll monitor these forums for a while more to see how my old comrades are doing. And let me reaffirm that if NEW hits BFF as rumor states, my meager warchest will be rolling against them. edit: Language, warning. Recent events have left me feeling this way, and I hope for a chance to carry it out. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQzZbNxZZ0"]https://www.youtube....h?v=dgQzZbNxZZ0[/url] For those who wish to stay in touch, I'm MrChax09 on Skype and Steam. toodles, cupcakes. [/quote] Nah, don't stress man, I never stress about arguements from folks here You're an okay bloke as I said before. It's been fun going back and forth and its been a pleasure chatting via private messages. Take it easy wherever you land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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