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[quote name='ditchboy00' timestamp='1358373318' post='3077684']
I cant believe someone actually got so upset at D34th they attacked the guy. Shame to your friend for the ego boost he has provided.

I have not followed up on much of the BFF stuff but sorry to see you leaving the game for reasons that appear to be not of your own wishes. A friend of mine (similar situation founder of an alliance that got thrown under the bus) went through the same thing. I tried to talk him out of deleting but failed. He came back a few months later and had to start all over. I'll offer the same advise I gave him, you'll feel differently about this when more time has passed. Right now it appears you are letting people you've never probably cared what they thought get to you.
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If I return, I'll come back under the same name and take whatever shame people associate with it. For now, it's been a relaxing day not giving a !@#$ about what goes on here other than my thread here, trying to clear the names of those unjustly accused. But I get your point, comrade, and it is appreciated.

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Since it's an OOC forum, I'll refrain from talking about IC stuff.

You were always a cool dude to chat with and it would be a loss to CN if you decide to leave for good. As others have mentioned, take a break then come back when you're rested. Regardless, best of luck IRL (and with the zoo? :P)

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I need some Popcorn :popcorn:
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The departure from this dying game of a longtime, involved member is not something to be glad for.

Farewell, Chax.

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Agreed with James Dahl about allying Goldie being your first and most terrible mistake. Anyhow, believe it or not, you can be in some alliances and not have any responsibility and enjoy the benefits of being a part of the community. Try someone like NG for example. Or you could join NSO, hit those stupid Kasktards, and all enjoy our favorite past-time of bridge-dwelling Furqan. Anyhow, best of luck to whatever you do, though as usual, i'll join the chorus of imploring you to stay :)

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Dear Chax,


I was with you at the beginning of your CN career in the old Commonwealth of New England. The first post you made apart from your application was something hugely retarded. I believe it was a comment on a Ministry of Defense thread and you said something fantastically gay like "I rise on a Point of Parliamentary Order Number 10 As per the United Nations Charter" and went on to say something even more nonsensical. That was many years ago. Little did I know that little homo and I would grow up to be super bros. We have done so much together in this worthless game. CNE. TCW. UCN. The deformed love child of yours called Europa. We talked about how we would either stick it out to the end or do something spectuacular in-game to simultaneously get us banned and have Deebo hang himself. We didn't want it to end this way, but here we are. In the end, we know who was in the right and I count that as a victory. Friend, I don't see myself in this game without you. Who will call me at three in the morning and explain that some acronymn I've never heard of has just jumped some other acronym and that we'll be at war in five minutes? Who will text me with an amusing story about how much of a bummer Deebo is? Who will be terrified of para with me? You have nothing to be ashamed of and everything to be proud of. You are without a doubt among the best to ever play this game.

Sincerely,

MoSW

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Chax, I had your back from the first moment this thing went down, and I will have your back no matter what you decide to do. I will miss you if you vanish, our love was short, but it was hard, hot, and burned bright. Don't be a stranger.

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You're the best friend I've ever had on this game, and one of the best of any friends I've ever had.

No one should have experienced this. Especially not someone of your abilities.

You will always have my absolute respect.

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Chax, you're a fantastic guy. Sorry you had to be a victim of [by far] the most retarded ****storm I've ever seen take place here. And I've seen some pretty retarded ones. Considering there was no concrete evidence for anything whatsoever one way or the other, it's unbelievable the kind of character assassination that happened here. Retarded. Can't think of a better word for it all.

Anyhow, I second what BloodFury said. You've still got friends here, so if you must leave, don't stay away too long. We'll still be here.

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[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358371809' post='3077677']
[spoiler]For those who care to see what I was welcomed to, here is my last set of logs from our gov channel.


Session Start: Mon Jan 14 13:12:33 2013
Session Ident: #bloodforgov
03[13:12] * Now talking in #bloodforgov
03[13:12] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead'
03[13:12] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44
03[13:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF]
03[13:13] * Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@coldfront-C42767C0.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) has joined #bloodforgov
03[13:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Turetel[BFF] Turetel[BFF]
01[13:13] <&Chax[BFF]> Really now?
01[13:13] <&Chax[BFF]> I can't even see what I'm on trial for?
[13:14] <%Ovidsidios> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1021.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1021.0[/url]
01[13:14] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, I'm demasked
[13:15] <%Ovidsidios> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114761&st=0"]http://forums.cybern...pic=114761&st=0[/url]
[13:15] <@SniperJoe> Ugh
[13:15] <@SniperJoe> Boris probably
[13:15] <@SniperJoe> Oh yeah, the trail !@#$
01[13:20] <&Chax[BFF]> Sooooo
[b]01[13:21] <&Chax[BFF]> Are we going to discuss this, or am I just kicked out, thrown into the mud and done?[/b]
[b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> We're going to discuss it.[/b]
[b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> I don't want to kick you out.[/b]
[b][13:21] <@SniperJoe> And if anyone else does they can $%&@ off.[/b]
[b][13:21] <%Ovidsidios> but you better have a damn good explanation[/b]
[b][13:22] <@DarkFox> If there is any evidence to begin with[/b]
[b]01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> I provided logs for you[/b]
[13:22] <@DarkFox> Facebook chat is hardly consistent
01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> and I'm kicked out
01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> that's my explanation
01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> Exactly what Fox said
[13:22] <%Ovidsidios> well then, we're just gonna have to wait for the trial
01[13:22] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox know sme IRL
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> In the meantime, my name is dragged through the mud, my reputation irreparibly damaged, and our entire alliance made to look awful
[13:23] <@SniperJoe> Why do the pictures look edited?
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> a trial I can't even take part in, so nevermind justice
[13:23] <@SniperJoe> Nevermind, not the place to discuss it.
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> They don't?
[13:23] <@SniperJoe> Relax.
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> Relax?
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> hah.
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> $%&@ that.
[13:23] <@SniperJoe> Boris took the limited access thing to remove your access to everything aparently
01[13:23] <&Chax[BFF]> This is my payment for all the hours I put in for this alliance?
[13:23] <@SniperJoe> We have to create a new subforum for this !@#$
[13:24] <@SniperJoe> Dude, this is not gonna help.
01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> And you think throwing me under the bus will?
01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> You could have said "We are discussing something involving the NEW matter, blah blah blah"
01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> instead of coming out and saying that I'd committed a crime before it's even been decided
[13:26] <@SniperJoe> Then Robster leaks everything
[13:26] <@SniperJoe> Spins it however he wants
01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> And we say we're discussing it!
[13:26] <@SniperJoe> The jackals jump all over it
01[13:26] <&Chax[BFF]> Nobody listens to Robster anyway
[13:26] <@SniperJoe> It ends up way worse
[13:26] <@SniperJoe> !@#$%^&*,t hey listen to anyone
[13:27] <@DarkFox> off topic but I think I just secured us some sellers!
[13:27] <@SniperJoe> LOL
[13:28] <@SniperJoe> Well done DarkFox.
04[13:28] <@DarkFox> GPF said there is a good chance. So its mostly Chax's doing
[13:28] <@DarkFox> I just need to sweet talk them
[13:30] <@SniperJoe> Alright
01[13:30] <&Chax[BFF]> GPF probably won't sell to us, I lied, right?
[13:30] <@DarkFox> I'll let you know when you lie.
[13:30] <@DarkFox> Until then $%&@ it
[b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox, have I ever lied to you IRL?[/b]
[b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> Hell, I worked for your family.[/b]
[b]01[13:31] <&Chax[BFF]> I handled money on a daily basis. Have I ever lied?[/b]
[13:32] <@SniperJoe> You can prove us all wrong later.
01[13:32] <&Chax[BFF]> And when I do, I want a full written apology from all of you sharks on the OWF
01[13:32] <&Chax[BFF]> as well as BOris's resignation
[13:33] <@SniperJoe> Whoa now
[b][13:33] <%Ovidsidios> You will get nothing more than what is written in our charter[/b]
[b]04[13:33] <@DarkFox> No Chax. I cant say you ever lied to me.[/b]
[13:34] <@SniperJoe> Chill Ovid
01[13:34] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, Ovid, with all due respect, go $%&@ yourself.
[b]04[13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you go $%&@ urself chax[/b]
01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Wow John, that's kind of you
[13:35] <@DarkFox> John go take a walk
[13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> no
01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Yo've been stabbing people in the back for a week now
[b][13:35] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> your not my boss[/b]
01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> like leaking Joe and Fox's logs to Deebo
01[13:35] <&Chax[BFF]> They trusted you and you sold them out to get elected next term
[b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> like hell i am running[/b]
[b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i rather deal with reform instead[/b]
04[13:36] <%Ovidsidios> Chax[BFF]: we are ruled by our charter
[b][13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> so cut the sociopath theatrics [/b]
[13:37] <@SniperJoe> All of you go take a walk.
[13:37] <@SniperJoe> John, don't og there.
01[13:37] <&Chax[BFF]> Yeah, our charter calls for a free trial
[13:37] <@SniperJoe> There will be one.
01[13:37] <&Chax[BFF]> Magicninja has my back more than my own allies
[13:39] <%Ovidsidios> SniperJoe: keeps telling you there will be a trial
[13:39] <%Ovidsidios> and you make us out to be inquisitors
01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Usually there's a trial before they release the verdic, bud.
01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Innocent until proven guilty
[b][13:39] <%Ovidsidios> there is no verdict[/b]
[b]01[13:39] <&Chax[BFF]> This is the opposite[/b]
[b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> Its on the OWF, champ[/b]
[b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> THat's a verdic[/b]
[b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> it doesn't say "We're investigating this"[/b]
[b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> it says "He played us"[/b]
[b][13:40] <%Ovidsidios> I respectively diagree[/b]
01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> things like that
[13:40] <%Ovidsidios> the evidense proves this
[13:40] <@SniperJoe> Uh
[13:40] <@SniperJoe> It actually says that we're going to have a trial
[13:40] <%Ovidsidios> ^^^^^
01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay, keep thinking that.
[b]01[13:40] <&Chax[BFF]> But the OWF post clearly doesn't have an air of neutrality[/b]
[13:41] <@SniperJoe> Dude.
[b][13:41] <%Ovidsidios> That's just media[/b]
[13:41] <@SniperJoe> I did what was best for BFF.
01[13:41] <&Chax[BFF]> That's just media, ovid?
01[13:41] <&Chax[BFF]> This whole game is media
[13:42] <%Ovidsidios> even the thoughts within an alliance?
[13:42] <%Ovidsidios> what they think and what we know
[13:42] <@DarkFox> Did anyone make a tech seller mask for me?
[13:42] <%Ovidsidios> are not the same
[13:42] <@DarkFox> Need one of those and a moderator mask for GPF
01[13:42] <&Chax[BFF]> Well Ovid, if I could see the trial, or at least the forums to discuss it, that'd be different
01[13:42] <&Chax[BFF]> but I can't.
[13:43] <%Ovidsidios> because that's in our charter, the trial wont start without you
[13:43] <%Ovidsidios> so you needn't worry about this trial happening just yet
[13:43] <%Ovidsidios> as it hasn't
[13:43] <@SniperJoe> ffs
[13:43] <@DarkFox> Was the Ombudsman contacted?
[13:43] <@SniperJoe> Boris changed your mask
[13:43] <@SniperJoe> subforum hasn't been created
[13:43] <@SniperJoe> chill
[13:44] <%Ovidsidios> in accordance with our charter
01[13:44] <&Chax[BFF]> The charter doesn't say anything about posting on the OWF first.
01[13:44] <&Chax[BFF]> The charter doesn't say anything about throwing me in a metaphorical prison and then deciding who is right and who is wrong
[13:45] <%Ovidsidios> Article IV: Rage 4.1)"...If approved by any one member of the Neapolitan Council or the Ombudsman, the member will then be placed on a restricted access level and given three days and a private section of the forum to plead their case."
[13:45] <%Ovidsidios> three days have not even begun
[13:45] <%Ovidsidios> nor the private section created
[b]01[13:45] <&Chax[BFF]> so why do we post on the OWF?[/b]
[b]01[13:45] <&Chax[BFF]> instead of saying !@#$ is underway, why am I being called guilty?[/b]
[b][13:46] <@SniperJoe> Because it was the right thing to do for BFF.[/b]
[b][13:46] <%Ovidsidios> SniperJoe: has already mentioned time and time again to avoid further damage to our already delicate alliance[/b]
[b][13:46] <%Ovidsidios> further the opinions of others will bear no input on the trial[/b]
01[13:46] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay. Well, if I'm innocent, there are going to be some massive, massive changes.
[13:46] <%Ovidsidios> yes
[13:46] <%Ovidsidios> indeed there will be
01[13:46] <&Chax[BFF]> and some goddamned good apologies.
[13:49] <@SniperJoe> EVERY LITTLE THING
[13:49] <@SniperJoe> IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT
01[13:50] <&Chax[BFF]> I'm going to clear my name and then I'm probably leaving BFF and CN
01[13:50] <&Chax[BFF]> $%&@ you guys if this is my payment
02[14:04] * &Turetel[BFF] (pollster.u@coldfront-C42767C0.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu) Quit (Quit: )
01[14:07] <&Chax[BFF]> So what makes more sense here? That I'd fabricate logs to create stress for Joe and I, or that NEW/Kaskus would fabricate them to clear their names?
[14:07] <@SniperJoe> Both explanations make no goddamn sense to me.
[14:07] <%Ovidsidios> we are not speculating anything until the trial
[14:07] <%Ovidsidios> this is not the place for that kind of discussion
[[b]14:08] <@DarkFox> Should not even be a trial without the Ombudsman [/b]
[b]04[14:08] <@DarkFox> should not have even demasked Chax before MoSW was constacted[/b]
[b][14:08] <@DarkFox> contacted'[/b]
[b][14:09] <@DarkFox> for that matter a member of the NC being put on trial was not even covered in our charter[/b]
[b][14:10] <%Ovidsidios> but the Ombudsman clause would cover that[/b]
[b][14:10] <@DarkFox> So all of this was premature since I don't see MoSW and there obviously wasn't a talk to the complete government since Deebo and I weren't here.[/b]
[b][14:11] <@SniperJoe> Read section 4.1[/b]
[b][14:11] <@DarkFox> Yes only one member of the NC can start the trial[/b]
[b][14:12] <@DarkFox> but now we are running with only 2 NC[/b]
[14:14] <@SniperJoe> Huh?
[14:19] <@DarkFox> what I am getting at is it maybe fully legal, but that doesnt make it right
[14:20] <%Ovidsidios> those are two incomparable words in this situation as neither what is legal need be right nor what is right need be legal
[14:20] <@DarkFox> I agree
[14:20] <@DarkFox> we didnt plan for this though
[14:20] <@DarkFox> and how could we?
[14:20] <@DarkFox> Mistrust among the NC?
[14:20] <%Ovidsidios> ^indeed
[14:20] <%Ovidsidios> ^allegedly
[14:20] <%Ovidsidios> we needn't jump to conclusions yet
[14:20] <@DarkFox> Tell me a week ago this would have happened and I would have thought that you lost it
01[14:21] <&Chax[BFF]> lol jumping to conclusions
01[14:21] <&Chax[BFF]> glad we haven't done that today
[14:21] <%Ovidsidios> well those in charge haven't
[14:21] <@DarkFox> in any case we need an acting NC
04[14:21] <@DarkFox> while Chax is detained
[14:21] <@SniperJoe> Boris and I are the NC.
[14:22] <@SniperJoe> It doesn't say anything about an emergency election or anything.
[14:22] <%Ovidsidios> our charter does not accommodate such a revision of our NC
[14:22] <%Ovidsidios> the ombudsman will be enough to handle things from here on out
[14:23] <@SniperJoe> Puh
[14:23] <@DarkFox> he just logged on
[14:23] <@DarkFox> give him access to the govt channel and I will get him in
[14:24] <@SniperJoe> Nick?
[14:24] <@DarkFox> minister_of_silly_walks|bff
[14:25] <@DarkFox> he needs access to both here and the private channel
[14:25] <%Ovidsidios> which he needs to register his name
[14:25] <%Ovidsidios> because it's been longer than 30 days
[14:25] <%Ovidsidios> (maybe)
[14:26] <@DarkFox> it is registered
[14:28] <%Ovidsidios> then someone send him an invite
[14:28] <@SniperJoe> Someone add him, I' dealign with everyone in this !@#$@#$ ame
01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> So when is this trial starting?
01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> After 12 hours of slander?
01[14:29] <&Chax[BFF]> or the full 24?
[14:29] <@DarkFox> I dont know the command to give access
[14:31] <%Ovidsidios> same
[14:32] <@SniperJoe> ./cs access #channel nick level
[14:32] <@SniperJoe> 30 for voice and I think any of you could add him at that level
01[14:32] <&Chax[BFF]> I like how my guilt is hinging on whether or not I let somebody from CN have access to my computer
01[14:33] <&Chax[BFF]> I don't even let my best friends IRL onto my computer
01[14:33] <&Chax[BFF]> Fox knows this. I leave the table for 30 seconds and I lock it
05[14:34] -frozen.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- DarkFox invited Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF into the channel.
03[14:34] * Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF (chatzilla@coldfront-5352DD42.satx.res.rr.com) has joined #bloodforgov
03[14:34] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF
[14:34] <@DarkFox> there we !@#$@#$ go
[14:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> !@#$@#$ finall
[14:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> y
01[14:34] <&Chax[BFF]> welcome to the trial.
[14:35] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Things people have never said to me before...
01[14:35] <&Chax[BFF]> Before we begin, I'd like to remind the ombudsman of the rules here; we are following the guidelines put in place by Joseph Stalin, so keep that in mind.
01[14:35] <&Chax[BFF]> This trial shall follow a similar route to those he has held, with as much consideration for the accused as was affored in the aforementioned trials.
01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> ITS FUNNY BECAUSE I'M GETTING SHAFTED
[14:36] <%Ovidsidios> this channel is not the location of the trial
01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> it's a joke, Ovid
[14:36] <%Ovidsidios> not the time or the place
01[14:36] <&Chax[BFF]> I'm comparing BFF's legal system to that of the former soviet union
[14:37] <@SniperJoe> My name is Joe...
[14:37] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> ...and you are an alcoholic?
[b]03[14:38] * Chax[BFF] is now known as Leon_Trotsky|BFF [/b](Edit: Bolded to show when my nick changed)
[14:38] <@SniperJoe> No, I am literally Stalin
01[14:38] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> More fitting imo
01[14:38] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> (not you, joe. lol)
[14:39] <@SniperJoe> I know, just making a joke
[14:39] <@DarkFox> I blame one person for this joke.
[14:39] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Jokes have been forbidden by the Justice Tribunal of Justice
[14:39] <@DarkFox> and I don't mean the attempts of humor here
01[14:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> "justice"
01[14:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> If the glove don't fit, throw him in jail anyway
[14:41] <@DarkFox> and yet the blocks still fall from the sky
03[14:41] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov
03[14:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +b *!tiramisu@*.ctvea.net
03[14:41] * Wolfprince was kicked by ChanServ (You are not permitted to be on this channel.)
[14:42] <@SniperJoe> Someone add WP
[14:44] <@DarkFox> done
05[14:44] -snow.coldfront.net:@#bloodforgov- DarkFox invited Wolfprince into the channel.
03[14:44] * Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) has joined #bloodforgov
03[14:44] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Wolfprince
[14:44] <+Wolfprince> well activity is up
[14:45] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> lol
01[14:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> all I wanted to do was wake up, go to class, come back and talk to Sniperjoe while i masturbate
01[14:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> now I've got this $%&@ign icepick in my back to deal with
[14:45] <@SniperJoe> Dude
[14:45] <@SniperJoe> I had a !@#$@#$ awesome day
[14:45] <@SniperJoe> And I wanted to talk to you about it too
[14:45] <@SniperJoe> Now I have a headache.
02[14:45] * +Wolfprince (tiramisu@coldfront-3607244F.ctvea.net) Quit (Client exited)
[14:46] <@DarkFox> I too had a wonderful day. One of my close friends getting $%&@ed. Great times.
[14:47] <%Ovidsidios> I've had a miserable morning, and now an even !@#$tier day
[14:47] <%Ovidsidios> let's get that private subforum up
[14:47] <%Ovidsidios> this trial over with
[14:47] <%Ovidsidios> and back to !@#$@#$ nothing
[14:47] <%Ovidsidios> cause this over activity
[14:47] <%Ovidsidios> is straight up dumb
01[14:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe, all I wanted to do was masturbate and talk to you
[14:48] <@DarkFox> masturbate "while" talking with you
[14:48] <@SniperJoe> lol
03[14:52] * SniperJoe sets mode: -b *!tiramisu@*.ctvea.net
01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Well yeah
01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> how else will I cum?
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01[14:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> WHo put boris on trial?
[14:52] <%Wolfprince> Howl!!
[14:53] <@SniperJoe> What?
[14:53] <@SniperJoe> Jesus $%&@
[14:53] <@SniperJoe> You're all demons and this is hell.
01[14:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> so
01[14:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I read that as "You're all deinos and this is hell"
[14:55] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> You play CN too much
01[14:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol
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[14:56] <@SniperJoe> Story of my life
[14:56] <@DarkFox> lol para
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04[15:32] <%Wolfprince> how is supposed to set up the thread/mask chax so he can defend himself and speak to the alliance??
[15:32] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Boris I believe has already taken it upon himself to do that
[15:32] <%Wolfprince> link don't
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[15:33] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1021.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1021.0[/url]
[b]01[15:33] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I'm going to let a neutral 3rd party remote my desktop[/b]
[b]01[15:33] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> since that's apparently required in the land of injustice[/b]
[15:33] <@SniperJoe> There we go.
04[15:34] <%Wolfprince> Chax cant see that thread can he?
[15:34] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> He cannot
[15:35] <%Wolfprince> WTF
[15:35] <%Wolfprince> There is suppose to be a thread made (which) he can see where we get his side of this cluster$%&@
[15:36] <@SniperJoe> The subforum hasn't been created.
[15:36] <@SniperJoe> Everyone !@#$@#$ relax.
[15:36] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> The trial is on hold until we re-write a section of the charter
[15:36] <%Wolfprince> I will relax when we do right by our member
[15:37] <%Wolfprince> He has been accused, He deserves a place to defend himself
[15:37] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Wolf don't worry. he will get it
[15:37] <@SniperJoe> No it's not, what are you talking about?
[15:38] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?topic=1028.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...hp?topic=1028.0[/url]
[15:38] <@SniperJoe> Boris help me ;_;
[15:39] <%Wolfprince> we are splintering apart over this dumb !@#$ and need to have a thread where he can speak to all members
[b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> RushSykes|TLR I've seen Chax's desktop[/b]
[b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> made him refresh to prove he didn't edit the html[/b]
[b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:38] <&Nascar8FanGA> he didn't fake them[/b]
[b]01[15:39] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you can all call on Nas if you want[/b]
[15:39] <@SniperJoe> Are
[15:39] <@SniperJoe> you
[15:39] <@SniperJoe> !@#$@#$
[15:39] <@SniperJoe> kidding me
[15:39] <@SniperJoe> This never ends.
[15:40] <@SniperJoe> This is the rest of my life.
01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Spergatory
01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you earned it
01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> all that masturbating, bro
01[15:40] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you had to know that sin would sting you
[15:41] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> Yet Don had skype with vibi and had shown this [url="https://www.dropbox.com/s/2bv2synkmkvaizh/ChaxFiltered.bmp"]https://www.dropbox....haxFiltered.bmp[/url]
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01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Cool story Johnap88
01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> so now we've got even evidence on either side
01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and it's my word against Vibi's
01[15:42] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and you're going to take his?
[15:43] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> seen this last night, right when skype happened
01[15:43] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> okay
01[15:44] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> well this just happened about 5 minutes ago
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[b][15:44] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> nothing can change my mind right now. its really hard to even argue against this[/b]
01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> How is that true?
01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What makes more sense? That I colluded with Nas to set NEW up so...so Joe and I would have a !@#$storm to deal with?
01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Or that NEW is covering their asses with Robster's help so TORN won't leave them for being !@#$bags?
[15:45] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> oh please
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[15:45] <@SniperJoe> Both of them are ridiculous as !@#$.
01[15:45] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> John, even when I set Muddog up I didn't lie about it
01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I've always been honest
01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> that was a !@#$storm I had to deal with and I flatout admitted it
[15:46] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you came out cuz people had a problem with it
01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> no, i came out because muddog asked me
01[15:46] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> go ahead and query him about it
[15:47] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> cuz people !@#$%*ed to him
01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> nobody talked to me before he did
01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> why are you so dead-set against me, john?
01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> This is starting to smell like a coup
01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and you've admitted you wanted an NC spot
[15:47] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> oh whatever
01[15:47] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> prove it isn't.
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[15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> so anyone who wants to run is
01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I'm convinced this is an attempt to grab power.
[15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> wanting a coup?
01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> yup
[b][15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> ur $%&@ed in the head[/b]
[b]01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> am I?[/b]
[b][15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> HELL YES[/b]
[b]01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Why are you mad? If you're innocent you shouldn't be mad.[/b]
[15:48] <%Wolfprince> children stop the dumb !@#$
01[15:48] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Let me remote your desktop and prove it isn't a coup.
[15:48] <@SniperJoe> If I ever find out that anyone ever causes me this much trouble to seize power in a goddamn internet game I will hunt them down in real life and strangle them to death.
[15:48] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i only wanted to run and made it clear that i felt INTERIOR IS NEGLECTED BY ALL OF YOU
[15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> !@#$@#$ A
[b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and what's my justification for making this up, john?[/b]
[b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> It seems you've got more reason to coup me than I have to fake this.[/b]
[b][15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> Evidence shows you lied[/b]
[b][15:49] <@SniperJoe> Let's not get dramatic here.[/b]
[b]01[15:49] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Evidence shows I didn't.[/b]
[b][15:49] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Too late[/b]
[b][15:49] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> YES[/b]
01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> We have equal evidence on both sides
01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:40 PM] Nascar8FanGA: Also
01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:42 PM] Nascar8FanGA: Bern came to me
01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:48 PM] Chax: lol
01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:49 PM] Nascar8FanGA: saying he agreed with me
01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [3:48:58 PM] Nascar8FanGA: and said it was Robster just trying to hurt you
[15:50] <%Wolfprince> there will be no more talk of a coup, dont be childish
[b][15:50] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> anyone can !@#$@#$ say that[/b]
[b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> can say what?[/b]
[b][15:50] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> back his !@#$[/b]
[b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> why are you so dead-set against me, dude?[/b]
[b]01[15:50] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You haven't even tried to listen to me[/b]
[b]01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've been nailing me to the cross since before i even came on today[/b]
[b][15:51] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i am sick and tired of the theatrics and ur !@#$%^&*[/b]
01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> where's the justice there?
01[15:51] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> How is this my !@#$%^&*? You didn't even let me talk before you were against me
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[b][15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> why talk? you told us the other side of the story was lies and we found out the truth. why more talk?[/b]
01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Did you find the truth?
01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Then why have a trial if that's the truth?
01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You found a conflicting story, not the truth
[b][15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> we are gonna have a trial[/b]
01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> conflict =/= negation
01[15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've already put the noose around my neck there, bud.
[b][15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> and you seen a demo of what it is gonna look like[/b]
01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What could I possibly say, show or prove that would change your mind?
01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Yeah. It's gonna look like you already against me.
[b][15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> you better get one hell of a lawyer[/b]
01[15:53] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> is that what you're saying?
[15:53] <@SniperJoe> He has Mogar.
[15:53] <@SniperJoe> Also, arguing never solves jack !@#$.
01[15:54] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF, in your power as ombudsman I hereby request that you censure Johnap88 for the duration of his trial on grounds of insubordination. Further, I humbly request that he be barred from sitting on the jury in my trial.
01[15:54] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> *this trial
[15:54] <@SniperJoe> Now, see
[15:55] <@SniperJoe> This is the kind of !@#$%^&* that just makes things worse.
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> This is ridiculous.
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Are you all not even trying to see my perspective here?
[15:55] <@SniperJoe> I am.
[15:55] <@SniperJoe> I'm also being objective.
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You all had your minds made up before i even came on IRC. Hence the Trotsky nick.
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> we are gonna have a trial
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> conflict =/= negation
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:52] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you've already put the noose around my neck there, bud.
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [15:53] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> and you seen a demo of what it is gonna look like
04[15:55] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> I don't have that authority, CHax
01[15:55] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> He's stating right there that he is going to be against me
01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You do, MoSW. In legal proceedings your word is law.
[15:56] <@SniperJoe> No, I didn't.
[15:56] <@SniperJoe> That's why I'm asking you to provide more evidence.
[15:56] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> On the jury thing yes, on the other thing no
01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have screenshots
[15:56] <@SniperJoe> I'm the last !@#$@#$ person who wants you to be guilty of this crap.
01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop has been remote accessed
01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> You have my word as friend and IC companion
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01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you have no MO against me
01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> but the MO is gainst NEW
[15:56] <@SniperJoe> vibi has more evidence on his side at this point.
01[15:56] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> What more evidence?
[15:57] <@SniperJoe> The screenshot of his desktop.
01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Nas saw my desktop
01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I gave you a screenshot
01[15:57] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Stalin had a $%&@ton of evidence against Trotsky, that doesn't mean he was right.
[15:57] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Guys, none of this decides anything. This isn't the trial
[15:57] <@SniperJoe> What you didn't give me is a screenshot of your desktop, and that is what I need.
[15:58] <@SniperJoe> And yes, you're right.
01[15:58] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop or the FB message?
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[15:58] <@SniperJoe> Your desktop
01[15:59] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> ok...ay.
[15:59] <%Wolfprince> can someone explain to me WHY he would fake those logs?
[15:59] <@SniperJoe> No, I !@#$@#$ can't.
[15:59] <@SniperJoe> None of this makes any sense.
[15:59] <%Wolfprince> what is the MO Why would he do it?
01[15:59] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> hence the lack of an MO
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[16:02] <@Deebo[BFF]> o
[16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> whats going on/
[16:03] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Sup !@#$%*
01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114761&st=140"]http://forums.cybern...c=114761&st=140[/url]
01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> that
[16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> and again why wasn't I told?
01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I wasn't either
[16:03] <@SniperJoe> Because shti happens rapidly.
[16:03] <@Deebo[BFF]> who is leon
01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I tried to log in and my account was restricted
01[16:03] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Chax, bro
[16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> well
[16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> see
[16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> this is what needs to happen
[16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> I need to be told
01[16:04] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe: [url="http://i.imgur.com/YguDv.jpg"]http://i.imgur.com/YguDv.jpg[/url]
[16:04] <@Deebo[BFF]> I thought this !@#$ was put in the open a while back
01[16:05] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Deebo, I agree
01[16:05] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I wish I'd been told before I was chastised on the OWf, too
[16:05] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> That cat is creepy as $%&@
[16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> yes
[16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> again
01[16:06] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol
[16:06] <@SniperJoe> That is not what I meant
[16:06] <@Deebo[BFF]> we've made ourselves look like a bunch of slapdicks infront of the international community
[16:06] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Also: RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, good choice
01[16:06] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> and JFK reloaded
[16:06] <@SniperJoe> It was unavoidable, robster or someone was gonna leak it.
01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> which is a game (free) in which you kill JFK
01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> loads of fun, would recommend
[16:07] <@Deebo[BFF]> see
01[16:07] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Joe, what do you want a screen of?
[16:09] <@SniperJoe> I want you to let me remote access your computer and take screenshots of your Facebook exchange with vibi.
01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> good lord
01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you know I'm !@#$@#$ paranoid bro
01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> you know how hard it was for me to let Nas do it the first time?
01[16:09] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I don't really trust you enough right now. no offense.
[16:09] <@SniperJoe> Then I don't know what to tell you.
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I don't know what else there is to say
[16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> I still
[16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> Dont know what is going on
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> johnap88[BFF|DoD]
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> if joe sees my desktop, will that convince you?
[16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> if I can get a tl;dr
[16:10] <@Deebo[BFF]> that would be fantastic
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Robster and vibi made fake screens
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> showed them to BFF
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> ?????
01[16:10] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> profit
01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> GODDAMNIT WHY ARE ALL THE !@#$POSTERS ON THE OWF TAKING MY SIDE?
01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Don't they know that HURTS my defense?
[16:12] <@Deebo[BFF]> why the blue $%&@ are we listening to Robster?
[16:12] <@SniperJoe> literally magicninja
01[16:12] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> lol
[16:12] <@SniperJoe> TheDon got a screencap of vibi's Facebook, Deebo
[16:12] <@Deebo[BFF]> the guy who has wanted to roll us the past 4 wars
[16:12] <@SniperJoe> And those screens look sketchy as hell
[16:13] <@SniperJoe> But AGAIN
[16:13] <@SniperJoe> Not the time or place.
[16:13] <@Deebo[BFF]> I think it should be considered in high evidence that Robster can't be trusted
01[16:15] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Thank you Deebo
[16:16] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> Joe and Boris, please check your forum inboxes
[16:16] <+Minister_of_Silly_Walks|BFF> BRB
[16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> more or less
[16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> I want to know why the post on the OWF was posted
[16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> that was a goddamn joke
[16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> because you see
[16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> I have to build these bridges back with the world
[16:16] <@SniperJoe> I !@#$@#$ told you why.
[16:16] <@SniperJoe> Read.
[16:16] <@Deebo[BFF]> you didn't
[16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> say not one goddamn word why you decided to post it on the OWF
[16:17] <@SniperJoe> IF WE DIDN'T IT WOULD HAVE LEAKED ANYWAY AND THIS ALLOWS US TO CONTROL THE PERSPECTIVE
[16:17] <@SniperJoe> k?
[16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> how was it going to leak
[16:17] <@Deebo[BFF]> robster?
[16:18] <@SniperJoe> That or someone else.
[16:18] <@SniperJoe> It was already out there.
[16:18] <@Deebo[BFF]> we should have it be
[16:19] <@Deebo[BFF]> our image has been so damnaged this month
[16:19] <@SniperJoe> We should have allowed Robster or whoever to paint it however they damn well please?
[16:19] <@SniperJoe> $%&@ no.
[16:19] <@SniperJoe> I made the right decision for BFF, sorry.
04[16:20] <%Wolfprince> We acted in haste! now we have to live with it. But I see know reason YET to treat CHAX as a traitor!
[16:20] <@SniperJoe> We didn't act with haste.
[16:20] <@Deebo[BFF]> well
[16:20] <@SniperJoe> And nobody is treating him as a traitor.
[16:20] <@SniperJoe> People are pissed off and being dramatic.
[16:20] <%Wolfprince> then we disagree on that
[16:20] <@SniperJoe> And we're not having a trial until people are calm.
[16:21] <%Wolfprince> Make a thread where he can defend himself against these charges
01[16:21] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Okay, this is my final say in the matter, please here me out and record this for trial purposes:
01[16:21] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have not now, or have I ever fabricated logs, screenshots, or anything of that matter. I have given my word to several of you, several of my closest IC and OOC friends, that I have not lied.
01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have engaged in shady dealings in the past, that much cannot be claimed to the contrary. However, I implore you to contact Muddog and ask him if I was anything but truthful when questioned.
01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have provided screenshots proving my side of the story
01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> my desktop has been remotely accessed by a third party, further proving my side of the story.
01[16:22] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> I have no MO to lie about this; Vibi and co do.
01[16:23] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> There is nothing more I can say, do, or send that will provide further evidence short of allowing one of you to log into my facebook account, which will not happen.
01[16:23] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> At the end of the day, my personal OOC security comes before IC matters. I will not be letting anybody remote access my desktop again. This is a wild goose chase; a witch hunt. I will not entertain it further.
01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> On a final note, should this show trial fall against me, I will be resigning my membership in BFF effective immediately and permanently, as well as my membership in Cybernations.
01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Ball is in your court. If I am to be given a fair trial and allowed to see the forums once more, somebody should inform me via text message.
01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Respectfully signed,
01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Ernesto Che Guevara -- "Chax"
01[16:24] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> Founder, leader, and friend of BFF
[16:25] <@SniperJoe> I've said 100 times to just wait and that it was going to happen.
[16:25] <@Deebo[BFF]> I feel I should say this, no member below the rank of director will post in that OWF thread
01[16:25] <&Leon_Trotsky|BFF> 'till then, in the words of so many before me: toodles, cupcake
Session Close: Mon Jan 14 16:25:25 2013

Session Start: Mon Jan 14 16:25:25 2013
Session Ident: #bloodforgov
02[16:25] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Jan 14 16:25:28 2013

Session Start: Mon Jan 14 20:28:18 2013
Session Ident: #bloodforgov
03[20:28] * Now talking in #bloodforgov
03[20:28] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead'
03[20:28] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44
03[20:28] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF]
01[20:28] <&Chax[BFF]> Is everybody here?
[20:28] <@SniperJoe> Yes.
03[20:29] * &Turetel[FEAR] (pollster.u@277B8F40.42DE7F9E.6534539E.IP) has left #bloodforgov
[20:34] <@constable|BFF> i dont think i have limped more people on the boards before tonight
[20:34] <@constable|BFF> except spaar
[20:34] <@SniperJoe> Limped?
[20:35] <@constable|BFF> limp dick a post
[20:35] <@SniperJoe> Ah
03[20:35] * DarkFox (Mibbit@coldfront-77D0A4F5.or.wavecable.com) has joined #bloodforgov
03[20:35] * ChanServ sets mode: +o DarkFox
06[20:35] * &TheDon125 hands DarkFox a bucket
[20:36] <@DarkFox> what will you have me do with it bro
[20:36] <&TheDon125> start bailing
[20:36] <&TheDon125> [url="http://bff.cnfear.com/index.php?board=116.0"]http://bff.cnfear.co...php?board=116.0[/url]
[20:36] <@DarkFox> mmm
[20:37] <@SniperJoe> Start trying to throw the water off this sinking ship
04[20:37] <@DarkFox> $%&@ that. Chax and those who want to keep BFF alive will need me
[20:37] <@SniperJoe> Or don't, I don't give a $%&@ anymore
[20:37] <&TheDon125> Wrong form of bailing, DarkFox
[20:37] <@Deebo[BFF]> lol
[20:37] <&TheDon125> as in, start heaving water out :P
[20:38] <@DarkFox> i see lol
[20:38] <@Deebo[BFF]> well lets see
[20:38] <@Deebo[BFF]> whats next?
04[20:38] <@DarkFox> well I got Chax's back until things stabilize. Though I am regretting leaving IRON.
[20:38] <@DarkFox> could sit back and gain tech there with no work
[20:38] <@constable|BFF> blame deebo?
[20:38] <&TheDon125> Well, obviously this won't be the end of people leaving BFF
01[20:38] <&Chax[BFF]> Sorry we had a fire drill
01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Okay, who all here is staying?
04[20:39] <&TheDon125> Chax[BFF]: I'd suggest returning to the fire drill, sounds like it'd be more fun
01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Because I was literally just about to resign from CN
01[20:39] <&Chax[BFF]> Nah, it's over.
[20:41] <@DarkFox> the inactives wont even realize anything happened
[20:41] <@DarkFox> we will lose a good chunk of NS though
[20:41] <@DarkFox> probably forums too
Session Close: Mon Jan 14 20:46:30 2013

Session Start: Mon Jan 14 20:46:30 2013
Session Ident: #bloodforgov
02[20:46] * Disconnected
02[20:48] * Attempting to rejoin channel #bloodforgov
03[20:53] * Rejoined channel #bloodforgov
03[20:53] * Topic is 'Official channel for BFF Member Alliances Government | Margi[NEW] Deebo sucks, long live the new Deebo! | Canik: MIA, presumed nation perma-dead'
03[20:53] * Set by Turetel[BFF] on Sun Dec 09 07:53:44
03[20:53] * ChanServ sets mode: +oa Chax[BFF] Chax[BFF]
01[20:53] <&Chax[BFF]> forgot to identify
01[20:53] <&Chax[BFF]> :x
[20:54] <@constable|BFF> my name is constable and I'm an alcoholic. i ride through life on the wings of a pegasus through a sea of electricity. I have no idea what the $%&@ is going on
[20:54] <@SniperJoe> I !@#$@#$ love you
[20:54] <@constable|BFF> so anyone want to chat
[20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> I'm going to peel an orange
[20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> and eat it
[20:55] <@Deebo[BFF]> then brb
[20:55] <&TheDon125> [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114771"]http://forums.cybern...howtopic=114771[/url]
[20:56] <&TheDon125> FEAR now re-exists
[20:56] <@constable|BFF> yeah i know
[20:57] <~Lord_Boris> I love how people are raging at me for not being online because I was having a planned evening out with my better half.
[20:57] <~Lord_Boris> You people really are a lost cause.
[20:57] <@constable|BFF> so roll Sentinel?
01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> Well yeah
01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> obvs
[b][20:58] <@DarkFox> You start !@#$ and disappear. Then call us the lost cause. You worry me bro. [/b]
01[20:58] <&Chax[BFF]> for now, we sit tight
[20:58] <@SniperJoe> I wasn't raging if you're talking about me
[20:58] <@SniperJoe> Just crying in desperation
03[20:59] * %Ovidsidios (Mibbit@coldfront-8686181E.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has left #bloodforgov
[21:27] <&TheDon125> Well gents, guess it's my turn to depart.
[21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> that was fast
03[21:28] * TheDon125 is now known as TheDon125|afk
01[21:28] <&Chax[BFF]> lol
01[21:28] <&Chax[BFF]> I think he meant from IRC
[21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> oh
[21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> well
[21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> $%&@
[21:28] <@Deebo[BFF]> me
[b][21:29] <&TheDon125|afk> Also, motion to have trial suspended for reason of we kinda need a functioning gov.[/b]
[21:48] <@DarkFox> that makes too much sense
[21:48] <@DarkFox> have a good one Don
01[21:49] <&Chax[BFF]> lol
02[21:50] * @constable|BFF (Mibbit@coldfront-5469281F.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: [url="http://www.mibbit.com"]http://www.mibbit.com[/url] ajax IRC Client)
03[21:59] * TheDon125|afk is now known as TheDon125
Session Close: Mon Jan 14 22:05:56 2013



The above logs show how dead-set things were against me from the get-go. The trial thread was never created. I was upset, sure, but I woke up to find myself locked out of our forums with the accusations leveled against me. The trial thread never ended up happening; people jumped ship for FEAR before the trial could start. Boris did what he could, but with those who would sit on the trial already gone...why would he even try anymore? I fault him not at all. He did his best, but he has RL stuff to deal with.


I'd like to take the time to clear the air on a few issues as well.

To my former comrades in BFF: I tried, boys. I tried to do the best for the alliance. I was prepared to leave and take the blame for all this, admit to what I hadn't done, but FEAR's people split off while I was typing my post on the OWF. I was going to do what was best for all of you. I'm sorry things ended the way they did. Good luck in the future. You're always friends in my heart.

On D34th: Yeah, he's being sorta dickish in this thread, but to be absolutely fair, I've spent the last month or so attacking everything he's posted. Why? I didn't agree with him IC, but I was still being a jerk. D34th, I'm sorry about that. I understand your animosity and it's entirely deserved.


On Goldie/VE: I was quick recently to piss on VE, especially Goldie. However, from his perspective, it appeared (and still does) that I flatout lied to his face and made him look like a fool on the OWF by supporting me. I understand their position and I apologize for putting them in a tough situation. I still affirm that I was innocent, but it was wrong of me to lash out against them. Fight or flight reaction, even in CN. I shiver to think I just made that comparison and it'll be weeks before I forgive myself for comparing CN to an RL fight. But to reiterate: Goldie, I am sorry. You did nothing wrong, and I still see you as a friend.

On Sniper Joe: As I've said time and time again, your hand was forced. I love you, bro. Someday you'll move to Oregon and we'll snuggle or something. Haha gross.

To The International: I wish the merger had gone smoother. We inadvertently got you all !@#$ on, too. You've been the most supportive allies anybody could ask for this entire time. Love you guys.

To ODN and GOONS, as well as Prototype: Much line Int, you've been there for us the entire time. In past alliances I've seen allies bail in times of conflict. You're truly better than that. I wish you the best of luck. Also roll Sardonic.

To VE and Deinos: My Dinohouse Brethren, I wish we could forget this, go back, and roll UPN together or something. We started our venture with high hopes for our future, but it's sorta dashed now. I'll keep in touch with you all (Chey wouldn't let me walk away, obviously, so I'll be around IRC sometimes). See the end of this message for more info.

To MK: You guys came outta left field, you really did. I wish I could say I'd join you as so many have asked me to, but I think I'm well and truly done for at least a few months. AllahArchon, I thank you for blessing us with CN, and your noble servant the Citadel of Infinity has been nothing but kind to me in the last few weeks. I don't care what people say, you're good friends and cool people.

To NEW: We'll never agree on those logs, but you guys were stellar allies in the past. From my beginnings with Margi to my last conversation with Coekrix (ask him for the logs, they're much too vulgar for these forums), you've always had a special place in my heart. Too bad things ended so poorly.

To TORN: So thick. I'll miss you guys. Thickness, we still need to talk about the male anatomy more sometime.

To Sentinel, UPN in particular, MCXA and The Legion: You guys were good sparring partners. Sorry for the animosity between us, OOC I've always thought you were a pretty cool bunch. IC I hated you (Sentinel) but that's the game, ya know? And despite my best efforts I couldn't make you all lose heart. Damn you.

To my former PnL mates in CCC and NADC, among others: The recent outpouring of support was surprising, but pleasant. You were solid blocmates, damn the haters. I'll miss ya.

Invicta: You're not done with me, shut your !@#$@#$ mouths. I'm still doing Jorost Radio, you've yet to see the last of me. Roll Nas.

If I've forgotten you, I apologize. This is a big enough wall of text as it is. This should have been my OP but I was too emotional at the time. CN is srsbsns. To Hiro, Schatt, and all the others I've argued with on the OWF and talked peace with later in PM, you guys are legit. Thanks for not letting IC carry into OOC.

I'll monitor these forums for a while more to see how my old comrades are doing. And let me reaffirm that if NEW hits BFF as rumor states, my meager warchest will be rolling against them.


edit: Language, warning.

Recent events have left me feeling this way, and I hope for a chance to carry it out. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQzZbNxZZ0"]https://www.youtube....h?v=dgQzZbNxZZ0[/url]

For those who wish to stay in touch, I'm MrChax09 on Skype and Steam. toodles, cupcakes.
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While I don't know (OOC) who is right in this situation as I've seen little of the evidence, I have to ask, why didn't you just let this go to trial if you were so sure of your innocence?

Regardless best of luck with the rest of your life.

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[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358371809' post='3077677']
To TORN: So thick. I'll miss you guys. Thickness, we still need to talk about the male anatomy more sometime.
[/quote]

Your training is almost complete.

Adios if you do go, but you'll be back. They always come back.

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[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1358418849' post='3077961']
While I don't know (OOC) who is right in this situation as I've seen little of the evidence, I have to ask, why didn't you just let this go to trial if you were so sure of your innocence?

Regardless best of luck with the rest of your life.
[/quote]

I did. The people trying me left for FEAR before the trial began.

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Couple things:

I have known Chax (Ernesto Che Guevara) for a long time, and while he is many things -- repressed homosexual, budding serial killer, guy standing on corner ranting -- he is not a liar. He is a scoundrel, but he is an honest scoundrel. That's refreshing. If he says he didn't do it, you can bet your bottom dollar he didn't do it.

Second, and this is for Chax, you are not going to resign from the game. Put that idea right out of your head. I could use the implant I had placed in your head as part of the terms of your being on [i]Jorost & Friends[/i], but I don't need to. Because you don't want to leave, and you know it.

That said, if and when you decide to stay you are welcome in Invicta any time. I'll even waive the application fee. You will still have to participate in the acceptance ritual, though. So you might want to do a little manscaping.

And bring something to bite down on.

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Due in no small part to the support I've felt in this thread, I'll be sticking around in a limited fashion. Until my nation autodeletes, I'll do all I can to help my beloved BFF keep on ticking. I was part of the botched INT merger, and that's my mistake and I accept that. I wasn't totally in charge, but I didn't try to stop it either. That's on me, and I have to deal with that.

However, I'm not leaving BFF hanging. The ship is sinking, but not beyond saving.

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Chax I've always liked you and hope you do stay. If not best of luck in the wild wild world of RL. But also hope you can put all of this behind you. Arguing it serves no purpose. Particularly since it doesn't matter whether you finessed a solitary facebook conversation of all things. Sadly the biggest mistake both BFF and International made is keeping a treaty with a rowdy raiding alliance without having adequate communication with them. And by communication I mean multiple lines of real communication where everyone clearly understands exactly what the other side is trying to express. It wasn't there and that was a collective error on all sides.

But you know what? It happens. I mess up scores of times myself. And that is just during the timespan between when I wake up and 9am each day.

Put your nation on ice for a bit without deleting to clear your mind. Come back and put your differences aside with your adversaries over a sixpack of cyberbeer and become an active member of the community again.

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