President S O Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1341164269' post='3001231'] That's what happens in wars guys, overwhelm the opponent through sheer strength and numbers as much as possible in order to end that front as fast as possible. The end result should already be obvious to people so why not just enjoy the fun? Lord knows we complain enough about boredom throughout peace. [/quote] [quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1341164622' post='3001235'] I would have been more concerned had TPF not jumped in the war. I don't think its piling on, they're defending their allies. Any issue I had with TPF was burned away in WWE/BiPolar, I would expect nothing less than them defending their allies just as we defended ours. [/quote] At least these guys get it. Hats off to you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol Navy Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1341174779' post='3001319'] It's a shame that TPF's loyalty is being turned to such foul use. [/quote] I can't really disagree a whole lot with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred von Tirpitz Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Balder' timestamp='1341185208' post='3001404'] I remember when we debated CB's or whether events were legitimately in the right or not. Now we just argue over the definition or what qualifies as a curb stomp. It's a brave new world. [/quote] You bring her flowers, arrive in a Jaguar, take her to Broadway... she does not call back. Maybe a bike, beer and a titty bar will work. Its all about different vectors of approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Balder' timestamp='1341185208' post='3001404'] I remember when we debated CB's or whether events were legitimately in the right or not. [/quote] I dont remember GOD debating any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldConqueror Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1341191749' post='3001456'] Actually if people stopped worrying about hurt feelings and dropped people for political decisions we may have a better world to live in. That's a side conversation to what you're talking about though. [/quote] Yes I know, however I was asking starfox what his solution is, since he is stating that VE should not drop GOD, but is lambasting VE's other allies for being in the position where VE voluntarily puts themselves on the other side. [quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1341196000' post='3001486'] But would assisting VE really jeopardize the greater war effort? If so, then you guys have a really shaky hegemony, if one small move can throw it off. [/quote] Were you always this transparent, or are you just not trying any more? Yes people could assist VE. However, when they engage X alliance that is attacking VE, that alliance will likely call in support, which by your reasoning will mean that VE's allies allies will have to engage them, and then you have one side cannibalizing itself during a war. Not exactly a smart move, but hopefully you can already see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='AAAAAAAAAAGGGG' timestamp='1341186785' post='3001413'] You could say the situation was very similar to TPF-STA in the last war. STA pretty much burned to a crisp while their fancy new MDoAP partners in TPF stuck with NPO as they normally did. That treaty still stands today - I'm assuming because there was a mutual agreement between TPF and STA prior to that war happening, so I'm not really sure why everyone gives Umbrella grief over this similar situation (edit: I actually do, I'm just humoring you guys). [/quote] You're correct. We discussed it long before the war started and agreed on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I'm torn here. In general I support those on 'my side', but I have no love for mhawk and certainly wish no harm on my allies in VE. o7 VE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Lord Boris' timestamp='1341158563' post='3001200'] I wonder how long before this incarnation of VE buckles under the pressure. [/quote] Are you holding your breath? Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1341236215' post='3001757'] I'm torn here. In general I support those on 'my side', but I have no love for mhawk and certainly wish no harm on my allies in VE. o7 VE [/quote] This is so amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1341196000' post='3001486'] But would assisting VE really jeopardize the greater war effort? If so, then you guys have a really shaky hegemony, if one small move can throw it off. [/quote] If GOONS changed sides, it wouldn't change a thing. If Umbrella changed sides, that amount of concentrated upper tier power would raise havoc among the entire coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1341278902' post='3002054'] This is so amusing. [/quote] Cool story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 On one hand I dislike TPF for betraying us. On the other hand VE had it coming and knew it would come to this months in advance. This whole front gets a "meh" from me. I personally hope they both burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddyyo Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Solaris' timestamp='1341244281' post='3001796'] Are you holding your breath? Good. [/quote] It's always amusing when those without experience in the current VE make comments relating the past and present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Kuse Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1341282367' post='3002067'] On one hand I dislike TPF for betraying us. On the other hand VE had it coming and knew it would come to this months in advance. This whole front gets a "meh" from me. I personally hope they both burn. [/quote] Tell me how you really feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KainIIIC Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I will say this: I congratulate VE for being one of the few alliances on both sides not to hide a big bulk of their nations in PM. Now to put Baltus on the throne next.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddyyo Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='President Kuse' timestamp='1341283996' post='3002082'] Tell me how you really feel. [/quote] Passionate, Kuse. He absolutely wants both VE and TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='President Kuse' timestamp='1341283996' post='3002082'] Tell me how you really feel. [/quote] And spoil the surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliph Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1341284627' post='3002086'] I will say this: I congratulate VE for being one of the few alliances on both sides not to hide a big bulk of their nations in PM. Now to put Baltus on the throne next.. [/quote] There are alliances on both sides of this conflict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkellz Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I'm jealous not to have you as direct allies myself \o TPF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord6dread Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Happy 4th all- Get 'em TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1341236215' post='3001757'] I'm torn here. In general I support those on 'my side', but I have no love for mhawk and certainly wish no harm on my allies in VE. o7 VE [/quote] You might be torn but your desire to hurt Super Friends outweighs your wish to see no harm come to your treaty partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1341413753' post='3003401'] You might be torn but your desire to hurt Super Friends outweighs your wish to see no harm come to your treaty partners. [/quote] That's not what he said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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