King Louis the II Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Sorry for the double post but I came here to wish TOOL good luck. While none of the 13 wars that I waged were against TOOL, I respect you guys and wish you well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='astronaut jones' date='27 February 2010 - 11:23 PM' timestamp='1267331224' post='2207483'] so they gotta pay over a billion? .... that's actually pretty damn harsh given the circumstance. [/quote] Oh but there are pixelated cookies and muffins being distributed, so that makes it better. Sad to see TOOL get stuck with such a large bill, but I'm happy they get peace at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 wow, I could possibly understand Sparta gettin reps but not that friggin much. but Nemesis and MA, that is just BS for sure. frankly, if TOOL joined this war to defend an ally, they should not have gotten reps period. much love to RIA, LoSS, VE, and LOUD for not making TOOL pay out for no real reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabonnobar Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' date='28 February 2010 - 05:30 AM' timestamp='1267335244' post='2207672'] I think I have made my stance on Athens pretty clear. $%&@ you Londo. D: [/quote] Yet you remain in an alliance closely allied with them. So, if they are attacked and you end up in a war due to their stupidity, and get harsh terms from said war, it is perfectly justified, in your view? Whatever you get in such a scenario would be justified due to the incessant stupidity of an alliance you're allied with? Edited February 28, 2010 by rabonnobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Lord GVChamp' date='28 February 2010 - 12:08 AM' timestamp='1267333922' post='2207614'] Helpful advice, making threats to one of the largest alliances in the game is not gonna help your case. [/quote] That might be true if it was anyone but Sparta or GPA. Come to think of it that would be an interesting fight. Sparta vs GPA. Not sure who would win that one but, it sure would be a slow war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 congrats on peace! o/ VE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Louis the II Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='silentkiller' date='28 February 2010 - 12:30 AM' timestamp='1267335266' post='2207674'] You sure it had nothing to do with a lot of your top ranks staying in Peace mode while your allies fought in the upper ranks. say for example yew gate(your strongest nation) [/quote] Yew gate may not continue to be a spartan for that very reason. Ask about the opponents of Alexandros o Megas, Ethan the Lionheart, Tulak...they can tell you better. I have the logs actually. PS> Alexandros and Ethan were larger that yew gate,. They were ar war against Liquid Mercury and Extremelyaverage respectively. Edited February 28, 2010 by King Louis the II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='The Big Bad' date='28 February 2010 - 12:33 AM' timestamp='1267335436' post='2207685'] That might be true if it was anyone but Sparta or GPA. Come to think of it that would be an interesting fight. Sparta vs GPA. Not sure who would win that one but, it sure would be a slow war. [/quote] I think pretty much the rest of Planet Bob would win, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote n.ame='Salmia' date='27 February 2010 - 10:21 PM' timestamp='1267331095' post='2207476'] Peace [/quote] Congratz on peace TOOL. I'm sorry that the war was so bloody for you, and that your enemies decided to make you pay reps for following treaties. I'm sure you'll recover in no time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='rabonnobar' date='28 February 2010 - 12:33 AM' timestamp='1267335412' post='2207681'] Yet you remain in an alliance closely allied with them. So, if they are attacked and you end up in a war due to their stupidity, and get harsh terms from said war, it is perfectly justified, in your view? Whatever you get in such a scenario would be justified due to the incessant stupidity of an alliance you're allied with? [/quote] Define harsh terms, again. If you mean terms like this, completely acceptable. We know the risks of being allied to Athens, and we are responsible for what could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3nowned Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Crappy reps, but good fight o/ TOOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illini12day Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 o/ Sparta Victory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakyr Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Glad to see peace between TOOL and RIA o/ those who didn't ask for reps (and TOOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfe2015 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='rabonnobar' date='28 February 2010 - 12:00 AM' timestamp='1267333434' post='2207589'] Pathetic. To Sparta and the others who asked for exorbitant reps: people are taking notice. The post-war world, politically, could be chaotic. Remember that some of us will define our foreign affairs by actions such as these. Good luck TOOL. [/quote] This is the one post I wanted to choose out of them all... why... heaven knows. I'd say Sparta if any combatant in this event was more inclined reps perhaps followed by Nemesis since they took a heavy hit it would appear for their size. Fact is, they (Sparta) were defending their ally when you jumped in. I know you were defending your ally too, and the chaining, blah blah, but to the victors go the spoils? If you've been involved in any backchannels, you'd consider this light compared to what some people were saying. And I highly doubt Sparta will make it difficult on you to pay. The issue, in my honest opinion here, is that we've got one side versus another basically saying "Hey, you thief, stop taking reps from this war!" and then going "Of course we'd never have done this to you if the shoe was on the other foot!" But the problem is... we never really would know. It's quite possible in 3 months things get reversed and if alliance such as yourself (no disrespect intended) lay out the same or harsher terms it'll be dubbed fair, right? Meh... I'm tired of this war. Intelligence goes out the window in it and literally every war front is different from another. So my commenting here has to try and remain objective since I really don't know what went on overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reoga Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I never go to fight one of the "Real" members of TOOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantastico Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 A tip of the hat to RIA, LOUD and LoSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukapaka Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Good work Sparta! 3 down, 2 to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabonnobar Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='lonewolfe2015' date='28 February 2010 - 05:48 AM' timestamp='1267336300' post='2207702'] This is the one post I wanted to choose out of them all... why... heaven knows. I'd say Sparta if any combatant in this event was more inclined reps perhaps followed by Nemesis since they took a heavy hit it would appear for their size. Fact is, they (Sparta) were defending their ally when you jumped in. I know you were defending your ally too, and the chaining, blah blah, but to the victors go the spoils? If you've been involved in any backchannels, you'd consider this light compared to what some people were saying. And I highly doubt Sparta will make it difficult on you to pay. The issue, in my honest opinion here, is that we've got one side versus another basically saying "Hey, you thief, stop taking reps from this war!" and then going "Of course we'd never have done this to you if the shoe was on the other foot!" But the problem is... we never really would know. It's quite possible in 3 months things get reversed and if alliance such as yourself (no disrespect intended) lay out the same or harsher terms it'll be dubbed fair, right? Meh... I'm tired of this war. Intelligence goes out the window in it and literally every war front is different from another. So my commenting here has to try and remain objective since I really don't know what went on overall. [/quote] I'm not in TOOL. However, I will take the points as applying to me, sure, since I made the post. We [i]would[/i] know if I would require reps or not because I [i]did[/i] lead my alliance into a victorious war. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=34237"]I gave white peace.[/url] I also did so knowing I would get flak for it. And I was, indeed, threatened by chefjoe/Valhalla for doing so, as I made it clear in my announcement that I did not like how Valhalla was going about things. I understand how it is annoying that many ex-hegemony that gave harsh terms in the past are now whining about them. To be quite honest, I don't like that/them neither. Some of us, though, do remain consistent. I did not like the Hegemony giving harsh terms, and I do not like such things now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='rabonnobar' date='28 February 2010 - 12:57 AM' timestamp='1267336846' post='2207719'] I'm not in TOOL. However, I will take the points as applying to me, sure, since I made the post. We [i]would[/i] know if I would require reps or not because I [i]did[/i] lead my alliance into a victorious war. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=34237"]I gave white peace.[/url] I also did so knowing I would get flak for it. And I was, indeed, threatened by chefjoe/Valhalla for doing so, as I made it clear in my announcement that I did not like how Valhalla was going about things. I understand how it is annoying that many ex-hegemony that gave harsh terms in the past are now whining about them. To be quite honest, I don't like that/them neither. Some of us, though, do remain consistent. I did not like the Hegemony giving harsh terms, and I do not like such things now. [/quote] I can state that I have nothing but respect for you as an individual, and for the former alliance of Defcon. Consistency is a thing many people lack, and you are not among them. While I may disagree with your assessment of harsh terms, everyone has a different interpretation. Also so i may remain consistent. Kill ZoomZoomZoom. Edited February 28, 2010 by Penlugue Solaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Be happy, TOOL. You'll never see terms this light in the future. I will promise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Velocity111' date='27 February 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1267331561' post='2207497'] Reps are cool and all, but what exactly did TOOL do to warrant 1.775 billion worth of reps? >_> [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]Not a thing. Except Sparta is a useless alliance full of petty individuals. Same can be said for Nemesis and MA.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='lebubu' date='27 February 2010 - 09:13 PM' timestamp='1267334228' post='2207629'] Terms are too light. [/quote] MK overall is coming off quite pathetic in this thread. Being leader of the bloc to take more reps than any other bloc in history is starting to show. Tool, congrats on peace. My respect for you only rises every time I see you in action. Edited February 28, 2010 by mhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Fantastico' date='27 February 2010 - 09:52 PM' timestamp='1267336575' post='2207711'] A tip of the hat to RIA, LOUD and LoSS. [/quote] Don't forget VE. I heard nothing but respect for them from our camp during wartime. And to be fair, Sparta was pretty cool about the whole thing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphosis Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote]MK overall is coming off quite pathetic in this thread. [/quote] Your alliance has been overall pathetic for years. You had TheBigBad in government for how long? You're the last person who can talk, mhawk. You've lost every war you've overseen for TPF and you remain a bitter loser. Keep sucking those lemons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Xiphosis' date='28 February 2010 - 05:59 AM' timestamp='1267336999' post='2207724'] Be happy, TOOL. You'll never see terms this light in the future. I will promise that. [/quote] You are quite hilarious sometimes, you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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