Haflinger Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 [quote name='AirMe' date='27 February 2010 - 12:07 PM' timestamp='1267290638' post='2206650'] Tell me where to send the 3 mill and I will do it on your behalf. [/quote] Stuff like this is why AirMe is better than most of us. [quote name='Penkala' date='27 February 2010 - 12:17 PM' timestamp='1267291235' post='2206666'] Honestly, you supported forced disbandments and viceroys. You don't get an opinion on this. [/quote] You're talking to the alliance leader who paid your ally a whole bunch in reps to get Kaiser Martens free from EZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlashill Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 So who was Billy Ray and who was Winthorpe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gekaEzqj5g Congrats on peace to all parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinnai Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Congrats NSO to a well fought war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 (edited) Good to see. The question is [img]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/darth_vader10/GotMilk.jpg[/img] [quote name='Penkala' date='27 February 2010 - 12:36 PM' timestamp='1267292428' post='2206691'] Oh I know. I like DK. But she chose her friends, and she chose the side to defend when it came down to the big showdown that would determine the direction of reps, viceroys, etc. [b]And she chose to stand by those who supported implementing viceroys, EZIs and harsh reps[/b]. [/quote] So how is RoK, VE, GOD doing? Don't you remember when Hoo was a viceroy? Or when GOD put Kaiser on PZI? Or when VE helped disband Inertia? Yeah, some of us still remember. Edit: lolwut Penk Edited February 27, 2010 by Believland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niedalry Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Congrats to NSO on finally obtaining peace. Have fun rebuilding guys. o/ NSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinfat Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Didn't care for the "forum front" of the war, but the NSO nations who I traded pixels with on the battlefield were solid and classy people. Also want to give a shout out to Methrage - a diplo to Fark. We didn't always (ever?) see eye to eye, but I appreciated your efforts and the manner in which you conducted yourself on our boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Obama Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Congratulations on a well-deserved peace NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrinx Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Let me get this straight: * Ivan's signature is on this document. * Ivan resigns as Emperor and appoints Lint Wad knowing that Lint Wad will have NSO surrender in the current war. And this somehow qualifies as Ivan not surrendering and thus not breaking his word. Man, Ivan (or NSO as a whole) loves semantics and technicalities a lot. I'm going to have to echo what was said in an earlier post: what measurable difference does it make to the alliance if Ivan surrenders or Lint Wad does? Better yet, what difference does it make to Ivan's promise if he's resigning simply to put someone in place who will have the alliance surrender immediately? I mean, I guess it upholds the technical requirement of the promise to not surrender as long as he's Emperor, but that's a pretty shallow interpretation. If someone said to me something along the lines of "as long as I am leader we won't surrender" I don't take it literally; I find resigning and appointing someone to surrender for you to be breaking the spirit of that promise. But whatever. I think Ivan shouldn't have made such a ridiculous promise to begin with. Congrats on your peace NSO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The General Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Jyrinx' date='27 February 2010 - 09:18 PM' timestamp='1267323724' post='2207288'] I think Ivan shouldn't have made such a ridiculous promise to begin with. Congrats on your peace NSO. [/quote] Bottom line, Ivan pawnd himself. Kinda funny if you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Jyrinx' date='27 February 2010 - 09:18 PM' timestamp='1267323724' post='2207288'] Let me get this straight: * Ivan's signature is on this document. * Ivan resigns as Emperor and appoints Lint Wad knowing that Lint Wad will have NSO surrender in the current war. And this somehow qualifies as Ivan not surrendering and thus not breaking his word. Man, Ivan (or NSO as a whole) loves semantics and technicalities a lot. I'm going to have to echo what was said in an earlier post: what measurable difference does it make to the alliance if Ivan surrenders or Lint Wad does? Better yet, what difference does it make to Ivan's promise if he's resigning simply to put someone in place who will have the alliance surrender immediately? I mean, I guess it upholds the technical requirement of the promise to not surrender as long as he's Emperor, but that's a pretty shallow interpretation. If someone said to me something along the lines of "as long as I am leader we won't surrender" I don't take it literally; I find resigning and appointing someone to surrender for you to be breaking the spirit of that promise. But whatever. I think Ivan shouldn't have made such a ridiculous promise to begin with. Congrats on your peace NSO. [/quote] You answered your own questions within your post but your lack of apparent comprehension allows you to post such drivel anyway. I never stated I would not surrender. I stated that the NSO wouldn't so long as I was Emperor. But I did surrender, my name is there for anyone to see, as you just pointed out. So what is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3nowned Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Peace at last! o/ NSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 How could you have surrendered for the NSO when you weren't Emperor anymore? Do NSO Imperator Emiriti have that authority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Monkey Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Voytek' date='27 February 2010 - 07:44 PM' timestamp='1267328855' post='2207422'] How could you have surrendered for the NSO when you weren't Emperor anymore? Do NSO Imperator Emiriti have that authority? [/quote] He is Ivan Moldavi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 You guys must be even more of a personality cult than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krack Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Voytek' date='27 February 2010 - 09:44 PM' timestamp='1267328855' post='2207422'] How could you have surrendered for the NSO when you weren't Emperor anymore? [/quote] I've been waiting all day for someone to ask this question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChairmanHal Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Voytek' date='27 February 2010 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1267328855' post='2207422'] How could you have surrendered for the NSO when you weren't Emperor anymore? Do NSO Imperator Emiriti have that authority? [/quote] Presumably he surrendered along with the rest of the NSO membership as an influential member, not as emperor. The current Emperor's signature is on the surrender document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Voytek' date='27 February 2010 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1267328855' post='2207422'] How could you have surrendered for the NSO when you weren't Emperor anymore? Do NSO Imperator Emiriti have that authority? [/quote] You do see Emperor LintWads signature on there, right? Edit: Hal beat me to it. [quote name='Voytek' date='27 February 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1267330056' post='2207450'] You guys must be even more of a personality cult than I thought. [/quote] You're really helping NSO/Polar relations with your insults, buddy. Edited February 28, 2010 by Corinan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrinx Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Ivan Moldavi' date='27 February 2010 - 10:04 PM' timestamp='1267326486' post='2207372'] You answered your own questions within your post but your lack of apparent comprehension allows you to post such drivel anyway. I never stated I would not surrender. I stated that the NSO wouldn't so long as I was Emperor. But I did surrender, my name is there for anyone to see, as you just pointed out. So what is your point? [/quote] My point was that you did break your promise, just not in the absurdly technical sense. You didn't literally break it, but you're just playing with semantics and technicalities at that point. I presumed that the entire point of you saying NSO won't surrender as long as you're Emperor was to take a stance that your actions won't lead to NSO surrendering. It makes this entire thing look less like keeping your promise and more like finding a loophole to let NSO surrender while also claiming to keep your promise in the shallow technical sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wad of Lint Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Jyrinx' date='27 February 2010 - 11:35 PM' timestamp='1267331963' post='2207520'] My point was that you did break your promise, just not in the absurdly technical sense. You didn't literally break it, but you're just playing with semantics and technicalities at that point. I presumed that the entire point of you saying NSO won't surrender as long as you're Emperor was to take a stance that your actions won't lead to NSO surrendering. It makes this entire thing look less like keeping your promise and more like finding a loophole to let NSO surrender while also claiming to keep your promise in the shallow technical sense. [/quote] Surrendering was ultimately my decision, thus my signature. You're barking up the wrong tree here Jyrinx. Edited February 28, 2010 by Wad of Lint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrinx Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Wad of Lint' date='27 February 2010 - 11:38 PM' timestamp='1267332117' post='2207529'] Surrendering was ultimately my decision, thus my signature. You're barking up the wrong tree here Jyrinx. [/quote] Meh, technicalities again: from what I'm gathering (and perhaps I misread something) he resigned and had you appointed knowing that you'd surrender. It's surrendering by proxy in my opinion. Obviously neither Ivan nor you is going to admit that, my posting was just getting my thoughts on record for the rest of the world to know what I think (in the odd chance they for some reason care ). Since this won't be going anywhere else, I'll leave it at that. Edited February 28, 2010 by Jyrinx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wad of Lint Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Jyrinx' date='27 February 2010 - 11:42 PM' timestamp='1267332382' post='2207538'] Meh, technicalities again: from what I'm gathering (and perhaps I misread something) he resigned and had you appointed knowing that you'd surrender. It's surrendering by proxy in my opinion. Obviously neither Ivan nor you is going to admit that, my posting was just getting my thoughts on record for the rest of the world to know what I think (in the odd chance they for some reason care ). Since this won't be going anywhere else, I'll leave it at that. [/quote] You make a lot of assumptions. I'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='Believland' date='27 February 2010 - 03:02 PM' timestamp='1267301183' post='2206837'] Good to see. The question is [img]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/darth_vader10/GotMilk.jpg[/img] So how is RoK, VE, GOD doing? Don't you remember when Hoo was a viceroy? Or when GOD put Kaiser on PZI? Or when VE helped disband Inertia? Yeah, some of us still remember. Edit: lolwut Penk [/quote] Yes, clearly Hoo accepting viceroyalty of an alliance is just as bad as an institutionalized method of systematically dismantling alliances (for no reason) who posed threats, banishing competent leaders from the world so that no strength may be mustered, and giving permanent war and / or terms. Clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiuseppeG Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I think when people make fun or hate on NSO is cute, because they can't face the fact that they are good fighters and have common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 [quote name='ChairmanHal' date='28 February 2010 - 02:20 PM' timestamp='1267331048' post='2207475'] Presumably he surrendered along with the rest of the NSO membership as an influential member, not as emperor. The current Emperor's signature is on the surrender document. [/quote] Oh, OK. That's fair. (interesting that it had to come from an uninvolved party however) [quote name='Corinan' date='28 February 2010 - 02:22 PM' timestamp='1267331151' post='2207478']You're really helping NSO/Polar relations with your insults, buddy.[/quote] Why don't you ask your good friend NSO member "TehChron" about NSO/Polar relations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Voytek' date='27 February 2010 - 11:17 PM' timestamp='1267334475' post='2207643'] Oh, OK. That's fair. (interesting that it had to come from an uninvolved party however) Why don't you ask your good friend NSO member "TehChron" about NSO/Polar relations? [/quote] I can't imagine how that relationship could be strained at all. It's not like twice leaving the same ally behind to die in your fire could lead to any issues. Edited February 28, 2010 by Roadie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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