Sognatore Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Grats, everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Not sure, I didn't ask them. They don't generally ask my opinion when they sign MDPs and I would never expect them to. This looks more like an MDoAP to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well....this is interesting. Nevertheless, my congratulations to both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 This looks more like an MDoAP to me. The answer is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I tip my hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncruzore85 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Howdy neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) Misr raising his post count:Worthless. You being original: Not likely. You acting like you're important: Likely You trying to be funny: Priceless Edited January 2, 2010 by The AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyrinx Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Interesting move. I wonder what your allies in STA and NpO have to say about this. Should be fun to watch this play out. Not happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Can't say I'm surprised, really, but I do think this puts undue pressure on your closest allies in Frostbite. For every mistake or fumble you've made they've gone to bat for you, and still they stand by you, and will no doubt they will continue to stand by you. That you're willing to yet again take advantage of that friendship to slight Athens is really just... tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Not sure, I didn't ask them. They don't generally ask my opinion when they sign MDPs and I would never expect them to. Well hey, crapping on the people who have stuck their necks out where others have not always makes for good drama. Hope it works out the way you want it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 This looks more like an MDoAP to me. Same thing They don't generally ask my opinion when they sign MDPs and I would never expect them to. Really? Most blocs have at least an informal discussion before making further commitments to military defence, particularly when it has strong treaty web implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I've liked you guys ever since we had the Q&A session, glad to see this Hi Heft o/ NSO o/ IRON Hi. What? The Sith are fair-weather supporters of the oppressive old order? Well I'm just shocked! Absolutely shocked!Well, maybe not that shocked. If this counts as "fair weather" it's only because the new order is doing a terrible job of running things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
519 Nigras Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I thought that entire point of the NSO was to have an alliance that wasn't clustered in with the rest of the minions in the treaty web. Ivan, you sold out - my man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarikmo Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 You being original:Not likely. You acting like you're important: Likely You trying to be funny: Priceless You're saying this? You, out of all people? Congrats NSO, although I thought it was a joke treaty at first, now that I know it's real, congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunk the Great Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 You being original:Not likely. You acting like you're important: Likely You trying to be funny: Priceless Some things treaties can't buy, for everything else there's mastercard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Can't say I'm surprised, really, but I do think this puts undue pressure on your closest allies in Frostbite. For every mistake or fumble you've made they've gone to bat for you, and still they stand by you, and will no doubt they will continue to stand by you. That you're willing to yet again take advantage of that friendship to slight Athens is really just... tragic. What you see as mistakes we see as shining moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddog241 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 i find this to be subpar meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 What? The Sith are fair-weather supporters of the oppressive old order? Well I'm just shocked! Absolutely shocked!Well, maybe not that shocked. I came here to say pretty much this. We've known where you've stood for a long time, NSO. This is nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguybil Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Obligatory: Hail to the Sith, baby! I would like to formally welcome our new sith overlords. We had alot of fun with NSO in our Q&A a while back. I'm glad to see there might be some more fun to be had in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 You're saying this? You, out of all people?Congrats NSO, although I thought it was a joke treaty at first, now that I know it's real, congrats. My last two threads have been of more worth than your useless "tarikmo lolounge" You guys rag on NSO then complain when they leave. MK, CnG, be happy! You are free! Brave new world Doitzel, I now believe in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asriel Belacqua Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 While it is true that we do not need such a clause in order to get involved that will not stop us from entering an agreement if there is such a clause. I see no reason to get huffy about something we could care less about. Our stance on aggression is well known. If we see fit to get involved we will get involved. End of story. Yea, well, Preambles don't really mean a whole lot either. In or out doesn't make much of a difference. Sorry if you mistook my post as getting huffy, I was just wondering. It was more of a "did NSO add this in just to make things clear, did IRON add it in to make sure, or is it just there just because?" type question than a "lul NSO and IRON adding in things they consider useless and I'm laughing" type question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 If this counts as "fair weather" it's only because the new order is doing a terrible job of running things. Yeah. Honestly I liked it much better when you were keeping me on EZI, Heft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Well hey, crapping on the people who have stuck their necks out where others have not always makes for good drama. Hope it works out the way you want it to. I don't understand your point. Are you stating that by NSO acting as a sovereign alliance that it is somehow acting against its allies? How does that work? I have never been consulted when Polar or STA have upgraded or signed treaties with some alliances that have sought to pull NSO into wars so that they can roll them so why would they be concerned that after nearly four months of discussion I would sign a simple treaty with IRON, who have not declared upon anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 The time is nigh! o/ NSO o/ IRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I don't understand your point.Are you stating that by NSO acting as a sovereign alliance that it is somehow acting against its allies? How does that work? I have never been consulted when Polar or STA have upgraded or signed treaties with some alliances that have sought to pull NSO into wars so that they can roll them so why would they be concerned that after nearly four months of discussion I would sign a simple treaty with IRON, who have not declared upon anyone? I am going to bow out of this conversation before this starts because my IQ has dropped enough today. I concede this one to you Mr. Moldavi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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