Alterego Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 He's saying, can you track his AA for all 1200 days and can you even verify that his second nation was 1200 days old given the fact it's now deleted? Im sure any alliances he was in will make themselves known when they see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Rishnokof created a multi and used it to spy on other alliances. His spy nation is 1,200 days old. He was Triumvir of RoK less than 1,200 days ago.You're right, my logic must be flawed. The OP didn't even prove that Rish was passing information, just that his multi tried to instigate conflict between TOP and NSO and that it had membership in other alliances. Yet you can assume he passed information in the distant past when you can't prove he did it recently? You can't even prove he controlled the nation at that time -- he might've been given it last month for all you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I never accused him of anything (at least before the events in the OP). I simply wondered why he had the multi and what he did with it while he was gov of RoK. Touche, you sneaky bugger. I will get you next time. What I meant to say was: You'd get solid proof if he was or wasn't spying, assuming he told you the truth. But since no one has bothered to contact him (somehow), that piece of evidence is left in limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFedistan Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Rishnokof created a multi and used it to spy on other alliances. His spy nation is 1,200 days old. He was Triumvir of RoK less than 1,200 days ago. Therein lies the rub... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Stukov II Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 And I'd like to know what Dr. Dan did with his while Grandmaster of TOP. Alas, we'll never know. You mean Dr. Dan's roommate who was a member of TOP the whole time? The same roommate who he reported to mods over 3 years ago. Clearly both of these situations are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Actually I believe you could using UE's stats if you so desired. So what alliance was his multi in during his time in RoK govt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 The OP didn't even prove that Rish was passing information, just that his multi tried to instigate conflict between TOP and NSO and that it had membership in other alliances. Yet you can assume he passed information in the distant past when you can't prove he did it recently? You can't even prove he controlled the nation at that time -- he might've been given it last month for all you know. I think I might need to start quoting this along with Hoo's apology; it's certain to get lost in the... what did shahenshah call it? Volume? of the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Rishnokof created a multi and used it to spy on other alliances. His spy nation is 1,200 days old. He was Triumvir of RoK less than 1,200 days ago.You're right, my logic must be flawed. Was it that old? I honestly am not aware of the multi's age. Regardless, I'd like to note that Ragnarok is less than 1200 days old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) And I'd like to know what Dr. Dan did with his while Grandmaster of TOP. Alas, we'll never know. Dr. Dan had a roommate that played from work. The roommate must have signed on from their apartment when Dan was deleted. Even if he did have a multi, said person/multi was in TOP. EDIT: why did I put never in there? It just makes me look stupid Edited January 1, 2010 by Kaiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Virus Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 You are all going on the assumption that the nation always belonged to him, perhaps it was gifted to him after the original ruler got bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankdolf Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I applaud the inaction taken by NATO, IRON, and TOP on this matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deth2munkies Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Im sure any alliances he was in will make themselves known when they see this. Why do I doubt that? Even if they did, none of them will have anything else to say or any proof of anything whatsoever because they haven't come forward already and the information would be too old to properly dig up. 2222 post count Edited January 1, 2010 by deth2munkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I guess this is what we do now, dig up dirt on each other instead of fight. Or call people out and not fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 What access level does and Advisor in RoK have? Already addressed. You mean Dr. Dan's roommate who was a member of TOP the whole time? The same roommate who he reported to mods over 3 years ago. Clearly both of these situations are the same. Rishnokof clearly had a roommate, too. Or maybe a little brother. It's hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 In what timeframe was Rish a Triumvir of RoK? Can't recall the exact time. Before Hoo's return, just a little after the Tri were introduced I think. What access level does and Advisor in RoK have? Pretty much Nil. It's just a mask for former Gov. who've done a lot IIRC. Chairman Hal had it at one point I think. Though I might just be making that up. To anyone: what alliance was President Magee in when Rish was a Triumvir of RoK? You people should go through your records, I've went through ours. Wouldn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I'm sorry but I think your alliance would like it if another alliance sent messages to your members to join their alliance. No, we would not like that.....but you MUST see how thats not even close to what "infiltrated our alliance" implies under any normal circle of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Or call people out and not fight. This is turn-based warfare here. We keep waiting on them to go so we can get in our next attack, but they just keep staring at their list of spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dr. Dan never had a roommate that played from work. The roommate must have signed on from their apartment when Dan was deleted. Even if he did have a multi, said person/multi was in TOP. Can you prove it was always in TOP, you bunch of saboteurs!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 For those asking for clarification on Dr. Dan's deletion: Dr. Dan's roommate---Darkblade---ran his own nation, albeit only from a university computer. Ruphus of TOP can confirm this, as he met both of them. Presumably either Dan or Darkblade messed up and signed in from the same IP. That said, Darkblade was never in any alliance besides TOP, and he did not create his nation until after Dr. Dan joined TOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Yes, let's listen to the party who is implicated, RoK, just like you listened to TPF. Yes, let's pay attention to Hoo laying out the super secret spy plan...wait, these situations aren't very similar at all are they? D: Edited January 1, 2010 by Aurion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 (edited) Zero Hour received their orders to spy from mhawk and the government of the Phoenix Federation, whereas rishnokof did it of his own accord. I'm not seeing anything that incriminates Ragnarok, as an alliance. That said, it is unfortunate that your alliances were spied upon, and I'm glad that the perpetrator has been dealt with. Edited January 1, 2010 by Quiziotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefjoe Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Who has neither the power nor access that many supporting this seem to believe he has.Your point, sir? My point in this response is asking whether or not you are an admin on RoK forums? Becuase if not you have NO idea what access he may or may not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Rishnokof clearly had a roommate, too. Or maybe a little brother. It's hard to tell. /thread right here PROVE to us that Rishnokof didn't have a brother or roommate. Yeehaw for diverting arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 /thread right herePROVE to us that Rishnokof didn't have a brother or roommate. Yeehaw for diverting arguments. Say it in red! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yes, let's pay attention to Hoo's words, just like we paid attention to Mhawk laying out his super secret master plan...Ohwait, these aren't very similar at all are they? Let's listen to everyone involved saying that TPF never had any plans after they surrendered. TPF says (and has proven) they didn't do anything after surrender, and you don't listen to them. RoK says they didn't do anything wrong, and you listen to them. Hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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