Homura Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 You're more like spoiled children here than anything else. Can't get your own way in a cooperative effort? Run off and start a new bloc, and declare that this is unity even when you're excluding almost all others! This is even worse than Agora. So I look forward to the day when this sorry treaty is scrapped. It's certainly not going to improve the state of the trading sphere, but at least you could find success in attracting controversy. I wouldn't poke the sleeping bear that makes up 1/3 of the sphere too much though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendoftheSkies Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Look I'm on your side in all this. I'd love it if you could stick it to the man and all, but I really can't see this happening. Between all the signatories you have around 179 members total. Even if you can somehow get all of them to vote (and again, UED has less than half their members on the Red Team so that's a tremendous stretch), you'd still be 21 votes short of the third place Senate spot. The way it is now this bloc seems all but pointless. I do hope I wind up eating my words, but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakamitai Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I wish King Death great success in his brilliant political move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Look I'm on your side in all this. I'd love it if you could stick it to the man and all, but I really can't see this happening.Between all the signatories you have around 179 members total. Even if you can somehow get all of them to vote (and again, UED has less than half their members on the Red Team so that's a tremendous stretch), you'd still be 21 votes short of the third place Senate spot. The way it is now this bloc seems all but pointless. I do hope I wind up eating my words, but I doubt it. Solidarity will rely heavily upon unaligned voters. I explained to KDII why that is not feasible when explaining why NPO cooperation was essential to RD months ago. Vox's experience in our second Red senate campaign (the one you never heard about because it failed) shows such heavy reliance on unaligneds to be wishful thinking at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Please, for the love of Admin, start messaging RD alliances and NPO asking them to vote for your senator. Do it for the Lulz. Edited November 14, 2009 by Master-Debater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Why you guys singling me out? Im not the only one in this bloc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarikmo Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Hasn't taken that much time for red to get a splinter? Has it? Please KDII, my dear friend, do yourself a favor, and try this great thing called diplomacy. I have no doubt UED will be a great alliance, but, you are destroying the alliances ability to influence, and be influenced, by others. This gap in red, really isn't large, even if UED is the second largest red alliance, it isn't large enough to call it's own actions and have significant standing. I am not saying all small alliances should stand in the shadows, but, try to use more reason in your next decision. Edit - This also applies for SU and SWF. Edited November 14, 2009 by Tarikmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iosif Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Why you guys singling me out? Im not the only one in this bloc Solid defense bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schattenmann Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Why you guys singling me out? Im not the only one in this bloc I'm addressing you because you're the OP, and all indications are that UED is leading the Solidarity effort. SWF followed UED in the FIRE-hosted talks, followed UED in the RD talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I, too, proclaim myself to be the embodiment of Solidarity on the red team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I, too, proclaim myself to be the embodiment of Solidarity on the red team. Me too. I'm on Brown like King Death so I'm totally qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I'm addressing you because you're the OP, and all indications are that UED is leading the Solidarity effort. SWF followed UED in the FIRE-hosted talks, followed UED in the RD talks. Well this time its different, Ray Matveyev (SWF) made and wrote this. He approached me on the idea and I just signed off on it. I havent had time IRL to do all that writing and coordinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15pilotX Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) I, too, proclaim myself to be the embodiment of Solidarity on the red team.o/ Red Team Solidarity. Nothing can stop us now. KD, you could always just play nice. Edited November 14, 2009 by F15pilotX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 So basically these guys set up a place for red alliances to hang out, chat and build some unity and the NPO come along and smack them down because they weren't invited to the party. Congratuations on the DoS guys, I think it could do great things for the sphere and for the future of the game with more new alliances on red. @ NPO - When the fears gone, what do you have left on your sphere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Stickmen v2.0? You and I both know, at least the Stickmen had some style, this lot .... I don't even have words for how messed up this attempt is. Edited November 14, 2009 by The Pansy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 So basically these guys set up a place for red alliances to hang out, chat and build some unity and the NPO come along and smack them down because they weren't invited to the party. Yes, that is exactly what it is, Dragon. rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) So basically these guys set up a place for red alliances to hang out, chat and build some unity and the NPO come along and smack them down because they weren't invited to the party. How can you have unity on Red without NPO? They're by far the largest alliance on Red. As it stands now, if you truly desire unity on Red you have to invite NPO. Edited November 14, 2009 by Corinan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary the Fantabulous Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 So basically these guys set up a place for red alliances to hang out, chat and build some unity and the NPO come along and smack them down because they weren't invited to the party.Congratuations on the DoS guys, I think it could do great things for the sphere and for the future of the game with more new alliances on red. @ NPO - When the fears gone, what do you have left on your sphere? Actually, they stormed out of the Red Dawn talks because they weren't being given their way (apparently expecting someone to chase after them and yell "NOOooooooOOOo, you can have your way, please come back! D:"), plus those NPO !@#$%^&* got invited. As for what we've got on this team, each other and our friends such as the ones in Red Dawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilber Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) How can you have unity on Red without NPO? They're by far the largest alliance on Red. As it stands now, if you truly desire unity on Red you have to invite NPO. Quite easily. King Death doesn't have to actually visit us peons on the Red Sphere. He looks from elsewhere, and magically we're united! Edited November 14, 2009 by Dilber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterana Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Fear? What fear? This is hilarious, not scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) Actually I think the Dragon is right and I totally back KD II. So there. Edited November 14, 2009 by Branimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litha Riddle Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 So basically these guys set up a place for red alliances to hang out, chat and build some unity and the NPO come along and smack them down because they weren't invited to the party.Congratuations on the DoS guys, I think it could do great things for the sphere and for the future of the game with more new alliances on red. @ NPO - When the fears gone, what do you have left on your sphere? All of these alliances were invited to Red Dawn, but refused to be part of it because we want to be. We want to work with them, but they don't want to work with us. So we should force ourselves on alliances now? Wasn't the whole beat down by karma meant to teach us not to do that? How can we work with alliances that refuse to work with us? If karma would allow, we'd be able to be a part of all these red unity projects. So even now, we aren't members of Red Dawn, so even there UED and SWF and SU could be part of something we aren't allowed to join yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Wow. Its not often you see alliances face palm in public anymore but, here we have an entire bloc. I think I am going to start a service that allows groups to come to me before they go public and fail. So to Solidarity I will give you this advice for free. Just declare this entire thing has been a joke just for fun. At least then you can pretend all of Planet Bob is laughing with you and not at you as they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 This reminds me of The Hegemony but even stupider, which is quite an accomplishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyt2k Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I know diplomacy is new to NPO and the ablity to give a rats about anyone other than the NPO is difficult but how about you let them set up their group, you carry on with yours, you grow as an alliance, learn to accept that you don't rule the world and then all sit down like adults and talk. Really talk, don't list demands and throw a fit when you don't get your way (thats to both of you) and reach an agreement, and if you can't. Then don't troll their threads like little kids who scream when they don't get there was so they can spoil everyone elses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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