Tygaland Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) Yes, if the attacking nation had hostile intents I would agree that it is reasonable to expect the defending alliance to support the nation being attacked. However, when two nations are in a friendly duel, I don't expect their alliances to get involved. To me, Anthony seemed to be asking for a friendly duel. The mood of the whole thread was one of humor and joviality. There was nothing to suggest that the people asking to be attacked would bring their whole alliances into the fray. NSO should have tried diplomacy becuase it would have avoided pointless destruction. Also, the route I am suggesting is more logical than what the NSO has done. Of course, I am assuming that the NSO does not want to fabricate tensions, create trouble for other alliances, and create destruction. I think I may be wrong on that one. Stupid trap didn't get the joke! Edited August 15, 2009 by Tygaland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 RAD didn't declare war upon the NSO. Yes, some of you may argue that attacking one member is attacking them all, however RAD had permission to attack Anthony and they did not have hostile intents towards the NSO. So RAD's attack cannot be considered a DoW. Furthermore, if we were to observe most, if not all, of the cases in which these types of things occured, we would notice that alliances tried diplomacy before they recognized hostilities or declared war. But did anthony say there would be zero consequences for attacking him? Go check my nations bio. I give everybody permission to attack me in it and always have, not a chance that you are gonna get away scott free for doing so though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 NSO was the ones attacked. Anthony may have asked for it, but J8 actually declared war, deployed troops, and launched multiple ground attacks placing anthony's nation into anarchy.The defending party is under no obligation to try diplomacy. They are under the obligation to defend their members from attacks in whatever way *they* deem appropriate, not you. They deemed military action was an appropriate response to military action. Works for me. Yes, they were not under obligation to try diplomacy, however, if they don't, then it is a clear indication that they wanted to create tensions and destroy RAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yes, they were not under obligation to try diplomacy, however, if they don't, then it is a clear indication that they wanted to create tensions and destroy RAD. Now you're putting words into their mouth. Its more like they chose to respond to aggressive military action on one of their nations with military action of their own. Seems like Karma to me........ (and J8 did launch attacks so it sure as heck was aggressive military action) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yes, they were not under obligation to try diplomacy, however, if they don't, then it is a clear indication that they wanted to create tensions and destroy RAD. Yes, with a 1 week war and no nukes, we're destroying RAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yes, with a 1 week war and no nukes, we're destroying RAD. well you sith do have those super soldiers. I hear they might be clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Sweet blitz dudes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Now you're putting words into their mouth.Its more like they chose to respond to aggressive military action on one of their nations with military action of their own. Yeah, and that creates tensions and destruction. However, taking the diplomatic route would have prevented that and would have created a solution that is favorable to both parties. If NSO rejects diplomacy, what does that tell you about their intents? Yes, with a 1 week war and no nukes, we're destroying RAD. Ok, so perhaps that was an exaggeration. However you will still be creating tensions and you will cause pointless destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesdaLeo Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 o/ NSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeJeezy Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 This will make for a good TrashCats Corner. o/ NSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yeah, and that creates tensions and destruction. However, taking the diplomatic route would have prevented that and would have created a solution that is favorable to both parties. If NSO rejects diplomacy, what does that tell you about their intents? Ok, so perhaps that was an exaggeration. However you will still be creating tensions and you will cause pointless destruction. i guess they must just be those evil sith then. Seriously, an NSO nation was attacked and everybody feels there should be no consequences to that action? No wonder planet bob gets so boring at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 i guess they must just be those evil sith then.Seriously, an NSO nation was attacked and everybody feels there should be no consequences to that action? No wonder planet bob gets so boring at times. From my observation of similar actions in the history of planet bob, I believe that the conditions under which that nation was attacked do not warrant a response from the NSO. Even if it did warrant a response, this type of response was the most destructive and the most unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerokus Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) Sweet blitz dudes Bloke who 'blitzed' me seemingly forgot to actually attack. I am an inactive player, mostly. I got the 'war has been declared on you) email, built up my troops and stuff and ended up anarchying him without being attacked back before update even happened. This make me am sad. Then again my nation is tiny and so is just target practice, I suppose. Man the constant back and forth repetition of the same handful of points in this thread is making me pull a face not dissimilar to this . Except more handsome. Edited August 15, 2009 by jonny cardboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 From my observation of similar actions in the history of planet bob, I believe that the conditions under which that nation was attacked do not warrant a response from the NSO. Even if it did warrant a response, this type of response was the most destructive and the most unnecessary. NSO felt a response was warranted. Given that they were the ones attacked i believe it may just be within their rights to make that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Bloke who 'blitzed' me seemingly forgot to actually attack and ended up in anarchy himself before update even happened. Then again my nation is tiny and so is just target practice, I suppose. Maybe he just declared a lulz war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 i guess they must just be those evil sith then.Seriously, an NSO nation was attacked and everybody feels there should be no consequences to that action? No wonder planet bob gets so boring at times. I'm not going to argue with you, but were RAD the larger alliance, and NSO had done the same thing to one of our nations, I can imagine a few laughs being had, maybe a little bit of banter back and forth, and then we'd all go sleep in our beds. But I realize NSO is not RAD, and that is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 NSO felt a response was warranted. Given that they were the ones attacked i believe it may just be within their rights to make that decision. I'm not arguing that they didn't have a right to do it. I'm arguing that their response was not reasonable. And I gave my reasons on why I felt that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not going to bother with the back and forth arguing. I would like to say I'm impressed at the speed of the mobilization of the Sith war machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not going to argue with you, but were RAD the larger alliance, and NSO had done the same thing to one of our nations, I can imagine a few laughs being had, maybe a little bit of banter back and forth, and then we'd all go sleep in our beds.But I realize NSO is not RAD, and that is fine. nah, everybody would be presuring you to wipe NSO off the face of the planet. I mean every NSO thread brings out the haters. of course it would still be your decision to do something about it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeboy Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 this war is an lol sig in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Fu Geeks Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not arguing that they didn't have a right to do it. I'm arguing that their response was not reasonable. And I gave my reasons on why I felt that way. whereas I feel their response was the appropriate one and have given my reasons. Agree to disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm not arguing that they didn't have a right to do it. I'm arguing that their response was not reasonable. And I gave my reasons on why I felt that way. Clearly we disagree about what a reasonable response constituted in this instance. As it was our response to make, our interpretation was the pertinent one. When someone "joke" attacks one of your nations you can handle it however you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulomascovia Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 whereas I feel their response was the appropriate one and have given my reasons.Agree to disagree? Sure. I guess that's the best I can do right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 From my observation of similar actions in the history of planet bob, I believe that the conditions under which that nation was attacked do not warrant a response from the NSO. Even if it did warrant a response, this type of response was the most destructive and the most unnecessary. And i am certain your opinion is the only one that matters right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryievla Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Stupid trap didn't get the joke! I have to admit that's a pretty good summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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