mhawk Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The war has destroyed our nations, but not our resolve, and not our word. Over the last few weeks there have been numerous threads regarding "reps" requested of our allies. Many have argued the position of "what is possible" to pay is an acceptable measure of terms, while others take the position that they have become the world police to right all the perceived wrongs of the world. I would like to take a moment to give our stance on the issue and to address some ramifications of this decision. We will be the last to leave the field of battle. Many have criticized this decision for being hopeless, however for us this is where TPF will make her stand. Our allies feel that the terms presented are not acceptable, that is their decision. We will honor it. We all have lines we will not cross, and it is in those darkest hours when alliances define that line that their allies are needed most. We will be there. From: Energizer Date: 6/13/2009 9:24:51 PMSubject: option to end the war Message: Greetings, as you are well aware, today marks the 2 month anniversary of war between TPF against various other alliances in this gruesome nuclear war. We are humbled by TPF's ability to remain vigilant under such conditions, and sought to end this war with respectable peace terms. There terms however, were denied without even being considered by Mhawk, as he said he wished to remain fighting until TPFs allies all received peace. One of these allies, is the New Polar Order who have recently been offered terms and ultimately objected them, thus seeking continuation of their war(http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=60464) If you truly believe it is just to fight a war that has no meaning, then continue to fight under mhawk. However, if you indeed seek an end to this war (as do we), Speak up then, as Mhawk's ignorant leadership has effectively committed suicide with TPF. You have nothing left to prove, you fought with honor and courage. Now its the time for rest. I would like to address that final point, this war is full of meaning for us. This is where all the world shall know what our word means. However I do not see an end to this conflict in the near future so I'd like to honor those whom have fought with us with distinction against great odds. This war has cost us all dearly and as a leader I can not ask those whom have sacrificed so much to sit helpless on my word alone. The leadership of TPF holds your service and duty fullfilled above and beyond. Many of you had plans to create new homes just before this war and I would like the world to know I've asked you go ahead with your ambitions, you served us with distinction and we wish you the best in the future. You shall always be our friends and family. Those that will remain at our side into this journey, words do not adequately convey my appreciation. Let us meet our destiny. mhawk, Evil Overlord, The Phoenix Federation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You are honourable, and I respect you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Controversy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Poison Clan are some real characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energizer Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Awww mhawk does care! Tell you what mhawk, I shall assist you on your great "Journey". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 is this where I line up to get some yellow cake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Encouraging desertion is clearly a sign that you have the upper hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Manbearpig Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 o/ TPF Stand strong always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriland Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Well, I wanted to post "I love you" but I am guessing that is probably not my official alliance stance. Sooo.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIUv3dOBbCk Also, my last comment about Ayrrie not wearing that flag x 10 now. Edited June 23, 2009 by apriland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Your stand is honorable and all that jazz, but was bringing this out to the OWF necessary? It seems this could have been handled internally since I'm assuming this is to reassure your own membership of your intentions because it is quite clear to the rest of us what you plan on doing. I did get a chuckle out of the New Polar Order things though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bralor Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Let us meet our destiny. See you in hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teriethien Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) While I don't agree with the almost pathological dedication to Pacifica, the TPF have proven itself to be a most honourable and respectable alliance. I hope that the NPO realises how good a friend they have in mhawk and act accordingly in the future. Best of luck on rebuilding once the war is over. EDIT: and the New Polar Order bit is funny Edited June 23, 2009 by Teriethien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I for one would rather suffer now, than leave this world without passion ^ This line from As I Lay Dying's "Bury Us All" came to mind from that speech. You have my utmost respect mhawk. o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Autumn Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Your stand is honorable and all that jazz, but was bringing this out to the OWF necessary? It seems this could have been handled internally since I'm assuming this is to reassure your own membership of your intentions because it is quite clear to the rest of us what you plan on doing. No, it's meant to demonstrate the clear lack of confidence and resolve that those attacking The Phoenix Federation have. You don't attempt to encourage people to desert an alliance unless you're concerned that without doing so you cannot achieve victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Your stand is honorable and all that jazz, but was bringing this out to the OWF necessary? It seems this could have been handled internally since I'm assuming this is to reassure your own membership of your intentions because it is quite clear to the rest of us what you plan on doing.I did get a chuckle out of the New Polar Order things though. This was to give our stance on the reps, our members internally, and to let those know that our members leaving now have served with honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyGrub Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 And we shall continue to reject the terms until Penguin gets his fish << >> Seriously, that is not the greatest display of understanding of the real situation I have seen, nor the best command of the English language. Fight as long as you want to mhawk, no one can stop you nor should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The leadership of TPF holds your service and duty fullfilled above and beyond. Many of you had plans to create new homes just before this war and I would like the world to know I've asked you go ahead with your ambitions, you served us with distinction and we wish you the best in the future. You shall always be our friends and family. Does this mean you are telling your members they can leave? I am a bit confused as to the purpose of this announcment lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 This was to give our stance on the reps, our members internally, and to let those know that our members leaving now have served with honor. This brings up my curiosity with your current stance of former TPF members who are currently PoW's. I'm assuming you guys don't have a ZI policy for those who surrender during war or is this a special case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fernando Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Fight as long as you want to mhawk, no one can stop you nor should they. Im still waiting on my duel, you wanted to fight me without a WRC, I said wait a week...now I have one for 2 months and your still nowhere in sight Keep your promise's Slay-jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Manbearpig Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I for one would rather suffer now, than leave this world without passion^ This line from As I Lay Dying's "Bury Us All" came to mind from that speech. You have my utmost respect mhawk. o/ No kidding? Nice, quotes from metal songs are always win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Classy post Mhawk, the pink menace could learn a thing or two from you guys. I hope you guys & your friends get a proper peace offer soon and not another offer of draconian style terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teriethien Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 No, it's meant to demonstrate the clear lack of confidence and resolve that those attacking The Phoenix Federation have. You don't attempt to encourage people to desert an alliance unless you're concerned that without doing so you cannot achieve victory. Not to be rude or mean, but I doubt that Karma have anything to fear from the TPF at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 And we shall continue to reject the terms until Penguin gets his fish<< >> Seriously, that is not the greatest display of understanding of the real situation I have seen, nor the best command of the English language. Fight as long as you want to mhawk, no one can stop you nor should they. *Slaps AlmightyGrub around a bit with a large trout* Accept terms now. Kplzthnx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Fernando Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Not to be rude or mean, but I doubt that Karma have anything to fear from the TPF at this point. Or TSI for that fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 lol he said Polar instead of Pacific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'll be impressed if you last 8 more months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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