Xanth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'm always ready to fight to ZI, but I'll bring more than a few SRA nations down there with me if you really want to try it. :P You fail to understand that at your range and nation you attack will be rebuilt within one aid cycle. It will take you much longer to bring your nation back out of the rubble. The longer you draw this out the worse it will be for you and your allies. Just say uncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 You fail to understand that at your range and nation you attack will be rebuilt within one aid cycle. It will take you much longer to bring your nation back out of the rubble. The longer you draw this out the worse it will be for you and your allies. Just say uncle No one on our side wants to surrender for an aggressive war started by SRA, who you have several allies attacking with you and ghosting your AA to mask the damages. What you fail to understand is my nation can also be rebuilt in one aid cycle and our allies have no desire to surrender. So its you guys who are dragging it out by seeking a surrender for a war you started and are struggling with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted June 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'm always ready to fight to ZI, but I'll bring more than a few SRA nations down there with me if you really want to try it. :P Your willingness to fight to the last MInc pixel is laudable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) Your willingness to fight to the last MInc pixel is laudable. Your willingness to fight over the last SRA pixel to get a surrender is laughable, when I've heard no indication anyone on our side has even considered it. I stick by my allies, who are also fighting and don't have any desire to surrender. Edited June 26, 2015 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'll let my military and bombs do the talking then, onward to more war it shall be.Can we get a count on how many times he's said this or a similar phrase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Holton Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Your willingness to fight over the last SRA pixel to get a surrender is laughable, when I've heard no indication anyone on our side has even considered it. I stick by my allies, who are also fighting and don't have any desire to surrender. It's always interesting to watch these kind of strategies at work. Fighting until the last pixel is interesting in concept, but how many members will dessert or otherwise lose interest in nations where they've had months/years of work destroyed? Activity is the life-blood of any alliance or grouping, it's sad to see idealists fall on their own swords so often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) It's always interesting to watch these kind of strategies at work. Fighting until the last pixel is interesting in concept, but how many members will dessert or otherwise lose interest in nations where they've had months/years of work destroyed? Activity is the life-blood of any alliance or grouping, it's sad to see idealists fall on their own swords so often. For many of us, who for much of our existence have fought on the edge, fighting to the last pixel isn't so extreme of a concept. I've fought to ZI/ZT, then jumped back up to 5k infra within 20 days a few times by now. Those who stick around can rebuild. I offered white peace as a way of avoiding this turning into an occasion like this for many on our side and in SRA, but their desire to keep fighting still seems to be there. For me and many on my side fighting is when CN is getting the most exciting, so most of us are having fun with the war. I have no interest in seeing any nations lose interest and I'm sure peace can be revisited after SRA has had their fill, but sometimes these wars can take a while before peace is really desired. I'm sure some of the SRA nations I'm fighting would be happy if their leadership was willing to agree on peace, but SRA is still a long ways away from getting any type of surrender if that's what they want to fight this to. I'm winning most of my wars, many on our side are winning their battles as well. So for them to say they want a surrender at this point is the same as saying they aren't ready for peace, they want to see this fought to a conclusion which hasn't been reached. Edited June 26, 2015 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurthwaite Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'm always ready to fight to ZI, but I'll bring more than a few SRA nations down there with me if you really want to try it. :P You were the one who wanted an eternal war. I figure at your range, with my WC, we can go for close to a year. Let's see how much you like the beat down in 3 months, or 6. As soon as my current wars end, I'm selling down to you buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 You were the one who wanted an eternal war. I figure at your range, with my WC, we can go for close to a year. Let's see how much you like the beat down in 3 months, or 6. As soon as my current wars end, I'm selling down to you buddy. If I can bring a 53k NS nation down to my NS level without lifting a finger, that is more damage on the enemy as I see it. Even if much of it is self inflicted. So have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Meth, you were given the option for white peace, twice. Both times you and your cronies threw it back in our faces. The time to white peace has long since past this conflict. There isn't a single nation in sra that wants this to end with you and minc getting of easy. The nations you down declared on have no desire to watch this end with you getting off easy. You wanted a quick shot at us and then it to end. That was a miscalculation on your end. Minc wanted a quick shot at us and get away easily, that was a miscalculation on their part. We've already seen minc (behind your back or as your plan) start asking for peace. We've had sigrun try to bully peace to the table and now we have you changing your story again about how white peace is [i]acceptable[/i] to you. You can see which sides showing cracks already and it sure isn't us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) We all agreed white peace was acceptable to us (LN, CA & Mi together), that you guys rejected it is your problem. It was you guys who thought you could get some quick shots in as we were fighting several other alliances, then peace out without getting hit back. Also it was Walsh who rejected the white peace agreement which was reached when we both agreed to start telling all our nations to send and accept peace. Edited June 26, 2015 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurthwaite Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 We all agreed white peace was acceptable to us (LN, CA & Mi together), that you guys rejected it is your problem. It was you guys who thought you could get some quick shots in as we were fighting several other alliances, then peace out without getting hit back. Also it was Walsh who rejected the white peace agreement which was reached when we both agreed to start telling all our nations to send and accept peace. Everything you say about this war fits nicely into the following pictorial representation: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murtibing Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 No one on our side wants to surrender for an aggressive war started by SRA, who you have several allies attacking with you and ghosting your AA to mask the damages. A few SPATR members decided to switch to SRA AA for this war (which I assume you call "ghosting" - athough they are on the SRA AA with approval of SRA Leadership). They didn't do so to "mask the damages". They didn't do so to mask the damage either. They did so to show the support for our allies. Only one of these nations is able to attack anyone in the Limitless Monsters Confederatio at this point of time though. Personally, I think that this war is unfortunate. However the bottom line is that we (SPATR) are allied to SRA. So we support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkimon Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Your brave crusade, down declare on wonderless nations,. Let's see how willing to continue you are at zero infra and zero tech. I'll let my military and bombs do the talking then, onward to more war it shall be. I remember when he down-declared on me, oh one year ago or so...Keep on keepin' on, Methrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 A few SPATR members decided to switch to SRA AA for this war (which I assume you call "ghosting" - athough they are on the SRA AA with approval of SRA Leadership). They didn't do so to "mask the damages". They didn't do so to mask the damage either. They did so to show the support for our allies. Only one of these nations is able to attack anyone in the Limitless Monsters Confederatio at this point of time though. Personally, I think that this war is unfortunate. However the bottom line is that we (SPATR) are allied to SRA. So we support them. They would just white peace if you and others weren't offering them the ammo to continue this war. Also what does SRA even want if white peace is so unacceptable to you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 For a guy who's winning, doesn't care about pixels and is only fighting for liberty and justice, you sure want to talk about peace a lot. Here on the OWF, in PM's to my members, on IRC. It's an odd juxtaposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Liberty and justice can only be achieved if you let him off with a slap on the wrist for his flagrant violations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 For a guy who's winning, doesn't care about pixels and is only fighting for liberty and justice, you sure want to talk about peace a lot. Here on the OWF, in PM's to my members, on IRC. It's an odd juxtaposition. You seem of called in a lot of your friends to hit our friends in Monsters Inc. Contrary to whatever you might believe, I do care about my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Contrary to whatever you might believe, I do care about my friends. I guess we'll see how much sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) I guess we'll see how much sooner or later. If you're expecting much from a war you started, just be careful what you wish for. Especially for those in SRA who want to see this turn into an eternal war. Edited June 27, 2015 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) I hope this war never ends. You mean your socialist Alliance doesn't provide opportunities... Shocked. Come join Monsters Inc, we are a Capitalist alliance Edited June 28, 2015 by Lord Hitchcock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Commies are probably at war more than 90% of alliances, and that's just the first thing that makes your post dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 You mean your socialist Alliance doesn't provide opportunities... Shocked. Come join Monsters Inc, we are a Capitalist alliance You're less an alliance, more a smoking crater of failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanth Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 You mean your socialist Alliance doesn't provide opportunities... Shocked. Come join Monsters Inc, we are a Capitalist alliance You are trying to poach on the owf. Desperation is a good color on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 You are trying to poach on the owf. Desperation is a good color on you. Not even MI6 would do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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