R3nowned Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 These terms are way too lenient. Congrats on peace though. Good luck rebuilding Polar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taishaku Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Congratulations on an end to revanchism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanore Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Shan Revan' timestamp='1329553146' post='2923259'] If they get less than a third of their alliance sending aid, and only using 5 slots, they can pay it off in under 4 months and still have a few weeks spare. I'm no longer an advocate of reparations, however these aren't that large over history and the allotted time is hardly requires staggering feats of organisation that haven't been already been massively surpassed by lesser alliances than Polar. They undoubtedly wont like it, just as we didn't, but I have every confidence in their ability to rise to the task without breaking a sweat. [/quote] Yeah I understand. I think it's just the sheer mass of it. For instance, if you eat a meal every day, for your entire life from birth to death, and live to be around 60, that is around 220k meals? Sure a ton of people will eat more. Sure near everyone eats at least the same around. That doesn't stop it from being a metric crapton of food. Another way of looking at it is that 125k tech is roughly a quarter of all VE's tech. It's around 41% of NPOs, about 10% of GPA/Umbrellas, or you know, roughly 70% of NpO's current tech. You can also note I'm a tad new. I came around the scene for the first time as NPO was getting out of terms for Karma iirc. So this is the first time I personally have seen reps like this. Don't mind me though, just a spectator. I get enamored with really big things. It was just the realization of how much 125k tech actually is. Sort of like when a kid learns the value of a dollar for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmansfield68 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='R3nowned' timestamp='1329553381' post='2923263'] These terms are way too lenient. Congrats on peace though. Good luck rebuilding Polar. [/quote] If you say so. This crap about gang-rolling and charging reps for the rollee is getting stale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Justice has been done. Congrats on peace. Congrats to all DR alliances in this war for not demanding a penny. Edited February 18, 2012 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) With Polaris emasculated, is TOP's desire for revenge sated? will the drama continue? stay tuned folks. Edited February 18, 2012 by Cataduanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Satisfactory outcome. Much love to our allies, it's been great Polar, for your sake, I hope you can mobilize your membership more for the reps/rebuilding than you could for the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1329547952' post='2923229'] It was actually MK who forced the reps out of you, but congrats on peace all the same. [/quote] They wouldn't have been in a position to take that amount of reps if half the coalition led by Polaris hadn't disappeared overnight after carrying out the plan that was made, discussed and cleared with Polar. I believe even Polar agrees that mistakes were made. For some it costed them alot more than 125k. For instance, it took IRON around 10 months to get out of reps due to Gramlin's extended BS and the fighting went on for a lot more longer then now as well, + 100k+ tech. Anyway, IRONers consider the Bi-Polar issue settled, I hope members of Polaris also view it as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Lanore' timestamp='1329553977' post='2923265'] Yeah I understand. I think it's just the sheer mass of it. For instance, if you eat a meal every day, for your entire life from birth to death, and live to be around 60, that is around 220k meals? Sure a ton of people will eat more. Sure near everyone eats at least the same around. That doesn't stop it from being a metric crapton of food. Another way of looking at it is that 125k tech is roughly a quarter of all VE's tech. It's around 41% of NPOs, about 10% of GPA/Umbrellas, or you know, roughly 70% of NpO's current tech. You can also note I'm a tad new. I came around the scene for the first time as NPO was getting out of terms for Karma iirc. So this is the first time I personally have seen reps like this. Don't mind me though, just a spectator. I get enamored with really big things. It was just the realization of how much 125k tech actually is. Sort of like when a kid learns the value of a dollar for the first time. [/quote] I doubt you were arguing this much when TOP was forced to pay 300-400k tech or whatever their reps were I believe they were the most in CN history. Polar's 125k is light compared to what TOP had to pay, and TOP had about the third of the members Polar has. If it pains you this much why don't you join Polar and help them pay it. Edited February 18, 2012 by Timberland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meterman Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thanks to our allies, y'all are great. NpO: We appreciate the good fight, honorable, proud, and full of perseverance. We sincerely hope for a smooth rebuilding of Polar and a future relationship that is fruitful and fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Malatose' timestamp='1329535416' post='2922971'] defend The New Polar Order from any unjustified military action [/quote] oh joy! somewhat like good ol times [img]http://i.imgur.com/vuXZ9.png[/img] Edited February 18, 2012 by shahenshah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 People are saying reps were lenient but were they necessary? This was was to bury the hatchet and NpO got thoroughly beat. TOP and TSO are asking for 125,000 out of 180,000 of their tech. Really quite an unnecessary amount for trying to "patch up old wounds." -omfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icewolf Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 yay for peace. Now I can finally actually start to play the building part of this game (war broke out within a week or so of me starting, so my entire time in this game has been this war.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1329560993' post='2923293'] People are saying reps were lenient but were they necessary? This was was to bury the hatchet and NpO got thoroughly beat. TOP and TSO are asking for 125,000 out of 180,000 of their tech. Really quite an unnecessary amount for trying to "patch up old wounds." -omfg [/quote] You miss the point. It is not to build some sort of friendship on this whole thing, but to punish the New Polar Order to a satisfactory degree. This is satisfactory. We now consider the issue settled. Doubt we'll be signing treaties anytime soon. Edited February 18, 2012 by ccabal86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero-One Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1329560993' post='2923293'] People are saying reps were lenient but were they necessary? This was was to bury the hatchet and NpO got thoroughly beat. TOP and TSO are asking for 125,000 out of 180,000 of their tech. Really quite an unnecessary amount for trying to "patch up old wounds." -omfg [/quote] If there is any one who deserved rep like that, it's Polar. The rep amount has been deemed acceptable by both INVOLVED parties, TOP and NpO. Who the hell are you to stand outside to criticize? If you feel so strongly about it, feel free to join Polar and help pay for their sin. Otherwise, just shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchboy00 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='ccabal86' timestamp='1329561308' post='2923296'] You miss the point. It is not to build some sort of friendship on this whole thing, but to punish the New Polar Order to a satisfactory degree. This is satisfactory. We now consider the issue settled. Doubt we'll be signing treaties anytime soon. [/quote] I am pretty sure he got the point. While it may seem satisfactory to you others wont see it that way. Honestly why not just demand the remaining 50k tech so you can finally truly be "even" by taking all of their tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Zero-One' timestamp='1329561406' post='2923298'] If there is any one who deserved rep like that, it's Polar. The rep amount has been deemed acceptable by both INVOLVED parties, TOP and NpO. Who the hell are you to stand outside to criticize? If you feel so strongly about it, feel free to join Polar and help pay for their sin. Otherwise, just shut up. [/quote] Who am I to criticize? I didn't realize you had to be someone of importance to voice your opinion. I feel quite strongly about it because they are my allies who are getting the short end of the stick. And go help them? I mean I'll help rebuild their nations. If you hated Polar so much, then why didn't you join TOP to go fight them? -omfg edit: [quote name='ditchboy00' timestamp='1329562156' post='2923303'] I am pretty sure he got the point. While it may seem satisfactory to you others wont see it that way. Honestly why not just demand the remaining 50k tech so you can finally truly be "even" by taking all of their tech. [/quote] Blah blah blah Polar sympathizer! Dont you get it? They HAD to pay even after 82 days of a curb stomp. They HAVE to give 70% of their tech in order to be punished for what they did in the game 2 years ago. Edited February 18, 2012 by omfghi2u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEIXIAIS Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1329562348' post='2923305'] Who am I to criticize? I didn't realize you had to be someone of importance to voice your opinion. I feel quite strongly about it because they are my allies who are getting the short end of the stick. And go help them? I mean I'll help rebuild their nations. If you hated Polar so much, then why didn't you join TOP to go fight them? -omfg [/quote] Polar should have thought about the repercussions of blatantly backstabbing it's allies. The matter is considered settled and NpO got a significantly easier set of terms then IRON and TOP them. I'd be happy if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1329562348' post='2923305'] Blah blah blah Polar sympathizer! Dont you get it? They HAD to pay even after 82 days of a curb stomp. They HAVE to give 70% of their tech in order to be punished for what they did in the game 2 years ago. [/quote] Alternatively, they could have come out of peace mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) [quote name='TIEIXIAIS' timestamp='1329562534' post='2923306'] Polar should have thought about the repercussions of blatantly backstabbing it's allies. The matter is considered settled and NpO got a significantly easier set of terms then IRON and TOP them. I'd be happy if I were you. [/quote] And we can go on and on and on about what is fair and what is not. But it really isnt going to go anywhere seeing as how our side believes its crap, and your side believes its lenient. I am happy that our allies finally got peace. Alot of TOP and co are saying how they dont forget. I am sure they wont forget either. -omfg edit: [quote name='ccabal86' timestamp='1329562780' post='2923307'] Alternatively, they could have come out of peace mode. [/quote] Yeah thats true, then IRON wouldn't have to be TOP's lap dogs. Edited February 18, 2012 by omfghi2u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1329562788' post='2923308'] Yeah thats true, then IRON wouldn't have to be TOP's lap dogs. [/quote] Oh look, the lapdog comment! And only after 10 pages? Disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEIXIAIS Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1329562788' post='2923308'] And we can go on and on and on about what is fair and what is not. But it really isnt going to go anywhere seeing as how our side believes its crap, and your side believes its lenient. I am happy that our allies finally got peace. Alot of TOP and co are saying how they dont forget. I am sure they wont forget either. -omfg [/quote] It's never fun when you're on the losing side is it? Now just imagine how much worse you'd feel if it was because NpO betrayed you. The matter is settled, NpO wants to move on, and if they want to take a shot at IRON and TOP it's nothing new, and we'll handle it. Until then, be grateful IRON didn't ask any reps, and considered the situation sated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='ccabal86' timestamp='1329562951' post='2923310'] Oh look, the lapdog comment! And only after 10 pages? Disappointing. [/quote] Was trying to mock the people from your sphere of the influence. You should have seen page 3. -omfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) edit: oops double post. Edited February 18, 2012 by omfghi2u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccabal86 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 It's allright. After all, it's the only thing going on for you guys at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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