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Oh, hello everyone. kingzog here. I trust you're all having a lovely day? I know I am.

Like many of you, I have been disappointed in the nature of recent 'dramatic' events. For one thing, they've been remarkably dull. Re-hashing three-year-old arguments (often in the [i]manner[/i] of three-year-olds) really doesn't do it for me.

I demand real drama, preferably of the sort that doesn't involve alliances I'm tied to.

So close those tabs for Fernando12's pointless rogue attacks, the Red Raiding Safari's tweaking of the NPO's Red nose and so on. I crave, nay, I demand, your complete attention.

It's OK, I'll wait. (You should probably close the porn, too. Never know who might be walking up behind you.)






Done now?

Excellent. Then let's begin.

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A week ago I received a PM from one TehChron, who holds some sort of position within the government of the New Sith Order.

[quote name='Chron' timestamp='1279431988']
Ive been hoping to catch you on IRC for awhile now, when's a good time to try and query you?[/quote]

Simple and to the point. I like that.

I had no idea what he wanted, since I could not recall having ever spoken with him before. However, since I've never made a habit of ignoring people, I logged on to IRC to see what was up. Unfortunately, owing to being in another part of my nation -- [OOC]house-sitting at my father-in-law's[/OOC] -- I was not using my normal IRC program, so this took me a while to accomplish. Other factors may have contributed to my inability to master the subtleties of a browser-based IRC program.

[quote]02:10 NickServ Password accepted -- you are now recognized.
02:10 kingzog waves
02:12 kingzog Be forewarned that I've been drinking a mix of chocolate and mint liqueurs all evening, thus I am incapable of lying. Mmmm.....delicious truth serum.
02:12 kingzog "Whassup" as the kids say.
02:14 TehChron Oh, hai
02:14 TehChron Well, if its a matter of you being drunk as !@#$, then it can wait
02:14 kingzog Aloha.
02:15 kingzog Oh no, I'm not drunk as !@#$. A gentleman never allows himself to get into that state.
02:15 TehChron Im actually here to talk shop, because I dont want to waste your time with $@! kissing, lol
02:15 kingzog I'm pleasantly pickled.
02:15 TehChron Ha, as if there are any gentlemen on the internet
02:15 TehChron Semantics, my good man
02:15 kingzog My problem is thatI'm just trying to please too many people, that's all.
02:16 kingzog What may I help you with?
02:16 TehChron Well, if your method of doing so is to become inebriated, then one would hope you arent pleasing them by giving them opportunities to ridicule you
02:16 TehChron Ah, well, Rebel Virginia says hes been trying to chat up diplomatic relations with you?
02:16 TehChron this is actually completely serious
02:17 kingzog Well, there's been a private discussion on our forum for some time, although to be honest I don't know that it has much potential, given our respective places on the treaty web.
02:17 TehChron Actually, thats precisely *why* we want to work with you
02:17 TehChron Or, more specifically, me
02:18 TehChron This is actually supposed to be an in depth discussion, you up for that this time of night?
02:18 kingzog I should note that I am no longer Nordreich's MoFA. As a (re)founder and former leader, I continue to have influence, but that's quite different from having power.
02:18 TehChron It can wait, since its not really a "do or die" kind of thing
02:19 TehChron ???
02:19 TehChron Oh, no, its just that you're someone I want to work with
02:19 TehChron And if we can get NoR working as an off the books partner for that objective, all the better
02:20 kingzog Well, you may consider my curiosity piqued....what can I do for you?
02:20 TehChron Ok, to further pique it
02:20 TehChron How much do you want to screw over Pacifica?
02:20 TehChron And then parlay that screwing over into political capital?
02:20 TehChron Because, ah...frankly speaking?
02:21 TehChron I need your help with that
02:21 TehChron We're making good progress with setting up a methodology for it to be possible, etc etc, but we need a partner
02:21 TehChron a *competent* partner
02:21 TehChron Im sorry for beating around the bush here
02:22 TehChron but I want to know if I can work with you
02:22 TehChron because, appearances aside, Im actually a lot more influential than I seem to be
02:22 kingzog Despite my previous dealings with the NPO -- you know, the Red Senate thing -- I don't particularly have anything against them except perhaps their inability to come to terms with their past.
02:22 kingzog They do seem to hate me, though. This makes me a sad panda.
02:22 TehChron nods
02:22 TehChron Well, thankfully
02:22 TehChron screwing over Pacifica is only stage 1
02:23 TehChron Its a means to a much bigger end
02:23 kingzog Hang on, now....I may have been imbibing, but I do recall that you folks are rather cozy with the NPO.
02:23 TehChron And if you dont hate the NPO, then thats fine. Its just that I dont think they have it in them to try and make a real threat to SG
02:23 TehChron We are
02:23 kingzog So you'll forgive me if I go reaching for my tinfoil chapeau.
02:24 TehChron We just are of the informed opinion were smarter than them
02:24 TehChron And, amazingly enough
02:24 TehChron I haz plan
02:24 TehChron brb
02:24 TehChron nature calls
02:27 kingzog It does that. In the interim, and just for future reference, please be aware that I'm not in the habit of saving IRC logs. As shocking as it may seem, I tend to keep confidential conversations....er....confidential.
02:27 kingzog Thus this conversation is unlikely to be 'recorded'.
02:28 kingzog Although I encourage you to try to use it against me in the future.
02:31 TehChron ???
02:31 TehChron Lol
02:31 TehChron why would I do that?
02:32 kingzog My way of saying that folks have tried to use IRC conversations against me in the past....100% failure rate thus far.
02:32 TehChron We literally cant do this without you, and coercion is never a good motivator for people to work to the best of their abilities
02:32 TehChron Ah, I tend to not try and pull that kind of crap anyway
02:32 TehChron petty and futile
02:33 kingzog Well, I've been pulled into far too many IRC "confrontations"....y'know?
02:33 TehChron Ha
02:33 TehChron fair enough
02:33 TehChron Alright, thisll be off the books on my end
02:33 TehChron I hope you dont share this discussion with anyone else either
02:33 TehChron So, with that agreed upon, mind if I get to the serious business?
02:34 kingzog Please do.
02:34 TehChron I honestly dont want to delve into too much detail until I know whther or not I can work with you
02:34 TehChron But, to make things clear on your end, there are two major things to establish
02:35 TehChron 1) The NPO are our good friends. But they treat us like we're another meatshield. Obfuscation at best, condescension at worst.
02:35 TehChron Dilber himself could be seen as more or less our watchdog for them
02:35 kingzog nods....this is unsurprising
02:35 kingzog Dilber is in NSO now, correct?
02:36 TehChron considering his largest contribution to our FA has been randomly chatting up Chimaera and saying that would eventually lead to an IAA treaty
02:36 TehChron Yeah
02:36 TehChron He wanted Master Marauder of FA
02:36 TehChron essentially hes RV's boss
02:36 TehChron but Dilber hasnt done !@#$
02:36 kingzog RL
02:36 kingzog Has a way of getting in the way.
02:36 TehChron Dilber has been a member since february
02:36 TehChron head of FA since april
02:37 TehChron every time weve tried to convince one of his subordinates to coup him, hes wound up talking them out of it
02:37 kingzog hahahahahahaha
02:37 kingzog That *does* sound likeDilber.
02:37 TehChron And, as I said
02:37 TehChron obfuscation and condescension from Pacifica
02:37 TehChron we like them
02:38 TehChron but like hell were gonna let them be the brains behind our operation
02:38 TehChron Not to mention the fact that Pacifica is scared !@#$less to make any moves of their own, meh
02:38 TehChron not that theyd be able to come up with anything good anyway
02:38 TehChron Moving on
02:38 kingzog Really? that doesn't sound like the Pacifica I know....
02:39 TehChron Thats because theyre NOT the Pacifica you know
02:39 kingzog But it's been a while.
02:39 TehChron the Pacifica you know had alpha types like myself, Dilber, RV, Josef Thorne, Ivan
02:39 TehChron etc
02:39 TehChron the current Pacifica is more or less divorced from the 2006 generation
02:40 TehChron and the ones leading their FA now are the ones that allowed them to fall into the Karma trap
02:40 TehChron based on that analysis alone, it becomes clear just what to expect from them
02:40 TehChron Anyway:
02:40 TehChron 2) I actually am much more than just a troll
02:40 TehChron I mean, im *mostly* a troll
02:41 TehChron But im also a damn fine strategist and analyst
02:41 TehChron at least compared to the CN average
02:41 TehChron Thats why I was the one that asked RV to go to you guys to open a dialogue
02:42 TehChron And more or less have had the guiding hand in the NSO's foreign affairs since the end of the previous war
02:42 TehChron When I make a promise to you about the NSO doing something
02:42 TehChron when I tell you something
02:42 TehChron You can more or less consider it the word of the NSO government
02:42 TehChron Im the head of Internal Affairs
02:42 kingzog RV has probably told you ofthe hurdles that exist in terms of our relations.
02:42 TehChron But I was a Shadow gov't before that
02:43 TehChron Thats more or less irrelevant
02:43 TehChron Im not here to ask you to be our ally
02:43 TehChron Im here to ask you to be our partner
02:43 TehChron Can you be that partner? Equals? All that crap?
02:43 TehChron With your help, we could seriously do this
02:43 TehChron we seriously need your help, Zog
02:44 TehChron because you're the only one who doesnt have a history of dropping the ball at the finish line
02:44 TehChron or being an incorrigible backstabbing jackass
02:44 TehChron And comes across as intelligent
02:44 TehChron And sure as HELL wont feed us fake intel to scare us into peace mode
02:45 kingzog If I may be so bold....
02:45 TehChron Even though we wound up splitting off relations with Kronos after that crap went down, we were still able to turn it around into a net win for us
02:45 TehChron Go for it
02:45 kingzog What, specifically, are you asking?
02:45 TehChron Im asking you
02:45 TehChron to work with me
02:45 kingzog To what end?
02:46 TehChron As an actual partner in this wonderful endeavor that will redraw the Treaty web
02:46 kingzog Well, I'm all about re-drawing the web.....frankly, it bows as it is.
02:46 kingzog er
02:46 kingzog blows
02:46 TehChron I agree
02:46 TehChron wholeheartedly
02:46 TehChron thats why I want to do this
02:46 TehChron I can think of ways to make the situation better
02:47 TehChron you can too
02:47 TehChron but neither of us have the ability to do jack !@#$ about it
02:47 TehChron we dont have the NS or the soft power to pull it off
02:47 TehChron but wheras we cant raise the NS to do it
02:47 TehChron we can pull off gathering the necessary soft power for it
02:48 TehChron My plan for that is actually progressing well
02:48 TehChron too well
02:48 TehChron Im paranoid and im cautious, which is why I wanted to talk to you as soon as was convenient
02:48 TehChron because, in my view, having you, and specifically you, is necessary to the success of this endeavor
02:49 kingzog Well, to be honest, I'm still not certain what it is that you're proposing.
02:49 TehChron for the NSO, either well reach the top, becoming a true power player
02:49 TehChron or well become the Legion of Brown
02:49 TehChron Well, yeah
02:49 kingzog ew
02:49 kingzog Don';t do that.
02:49 TehChron Im still holding off on the specifics until I get a yes or no from you
02:49 TehChron LOL
02:49 TehChron No, I mean
02:49 TehChron I dont know the details
02:50 TehChron but from what I know, Legion apparently had a lot of weight to throw around on Purple until their Pacifican castration
02:50 TehChron and even for awhile afterwards
02:50 TehChron But ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, they were irrelevant
02:50 TehChron simply a more noticable meatshield
02:50 kingzog I'm always game for something that will make life more interesting for the masses. Just to be clear....
02:50 TehChron I kinda figured, lol
02:51 TehChron Sorry, but Im actually not omnipotent
02:51 TehChron I have a lot of blind spots in my CN knowledge
02:51 kingzog But in the absence of specifics, I can only scratch my head.
02:51 TehChron so im gonna make a few blatantly wrong observations every now and again
02:51 TehChron Basically?
02:52 TehChron I want to usurp the decision making process of the ex-hegemony alliances
02:52 TehChron Including the foreign affairs moves of the New Pacific Order
02:52 kingzog Alright....and, to wat end?
02:52 kingzog er
02:52 kingzog what
02:53 TehChron grins
02:53 TehChron Because with that
02:53 TehChron we can start the real move
02:53 TehChron put simply, the ex-hegemony is soft power
02:53 TehChron and a means to the larger end, of changing the map
02:54 TehChron Er, treaty web
02:54 TehChron and the political dynamic of the game
02:54 TehChron thats the end, and Im sorry, but until I can affirm whether or not you're up for this, thats all im willing to say
02:54 kingzog Sorry....brb....wifey just walked in the door and I feel the need to grab her inappropriately.
02:54 TehChron Its actually an incredibly realistic plan, tbh
02:54 TehChron Go for it
02:55 kingzog And, for the record, I'm all for it, but bear in mind thatI'm not the powerful individual I once was.
02:56 TehChron lol, Im not used to being in power
02:57 TehChron I want to work with someone who's competent, and can rally support
02:57 TehChron which you can do
02:57 TehChron If you have a reason, or something to shoot for
02:57 TehChron you'll go for it
02:57 TehChron and you likely wont $%&@ it up, either
02:58 TehChron the NSO isnt exactly in a position of power right now either
02:58 TehChron but then, whats the fun if theres nothing to gain, right?
03:08 kingzog Well, for the moment all I can sayis that I'm interested. That and the missus has come home and she wants to go swimming at 3 am.
03:08 TehChron go for it
03:08 TehChron lol
03:08 TehChron Let me know the next time we're on, and we can move on from there
03:09 TehChron Like I said, I really want to work with you, and consider it necessary for this to work
03:09 kingzog I'll be on IRC for much of tomorrow, Ithink. If that's any help.[/quote]

(tl;dr - When inebriated, my Queen likes to go skinny-dipping at 0300. [Works for me.] Also, the NSO doesn't really like or respect their allies in the NPO.)

After this conversation, I did absolutely nothing for two days. That great plague known as "RL" has limited the amount of time I can focus on my nation's affairs. (Hence the reason I recently stepped down as Nordreich's MoFA after only a few weeks on the job.)

When I returned and thought about it a bit....I was left scratching my head.

What exactly was the purpose of this conversation?

[quote]02:27 kingzog It does that. In the interim, and just for future reference, please be aware that I'm not in the habit of saving IRC logs.[/quote]

As it turned out, owing to my own forgetfulness in shutting certain windows, this was not the case. I had the entire conversation before me, and it still made little or no sense.

Thus I did the only reasonably thing one can do in such situations. I went to the New Pacific Order for some clarification. (I know....going to the NPO is sooooo 2007, but I was having a retro moment.)

[quote]<WHOIS INFO REMOVED>
<kingzog> Anybody home?
<Jasmine> Morning
<kingzog> Oh hey.
<kingzog> Was just leaving a message for Vektor....but I'd much rather talk to a person.
<kingzog> On Saturday night (Sunday morning, actually) I was sitting at my father-in-law's computer, happily typing away when I noticed that I had received a PM from a member of one of your allies.
<Jasmine> I can do my best
<Jasmine> Ok
<kingzog> How to put this nicely....
<kingzog> It seems he would like to set you up for something.
<kingzog> Now, I don't know if he was serious or simply trying to set me up.
<kingzog> Either way, I want nothing to do with it.
<Jasmine> I understand
<kingzog> So what I'm going to do is send you all relevant information via PM on the main CN forum, you may then do with it as you please.
<Jasmine> Is there a copy of this message?
<kingzog> btw
<Jasmine> That would be perfect
<kingzog> Enjoy the image of my wife and I skinny-dipping at 3 a.m.
<kingzog> (You'll see what I mean.)
<Jasmine> o.O
<Jasmine> Which ally btw?
<kingzog> NSO
<Jasmine> Ok
<kingzog> Give me three minutes or less.
<Jasmine> No hurry
<kingzog> And sent.
<kingzog> If you have any question, I should be online for the next little while.
<kingzog> *questions
<kingzog> I would have brought this to Pacifica's attention earlier, but RL has been interfering with my fun-time as of late.
<kingzog> Apologies for the terrible format, btw. I was using Mibbit -- I normally use Chatzilla at home -- and it doesn't seem to be very 'cut and paste' friendly.
<kingzog> I took some screencaps of the conversation as well. You're welcome to those, too.
<Jasmine> I understand the RL thing ... my PC went down for about a week so I just got back online today XD
<kingzog> In my case, I had to step down as NoR's MoFA owing to an illness in the family. As fun as it would be to engage in a dastardly plot against Pacifica, I haven't the time or the inclination.
<kingzog> And, quite frankly, this 'offer' made my Spidey sense tingle.
<kingzog> ....since I'm reasonably certain that this was the first conversation I had ever had with this individual.
<Jasmine> I've skimmed parts but I can see your concern
<Jasmine> If you have any screenies or perhaps a whois of him?
<kingzog> er....
<kingzog> I have three screenshots....don't know if they include the entire conversation, but they should at least confirm that it happened.
<Jasmine> Ok
<Jasmine> If you could send what you have, I'll have to grab and pass this along when I return
<kingzog> I e-mail'd them to myself, so give me a moment to put them on Photobucket.
<Jasmine> Have to go run some errands that will keep me for a couple hours
<Jasmine> I appreciate your passing this along though
<Jasmine> I shall return and sorry to hear about your RL issues
<Jasmine> They're never fun to handle
<kingzog> No problemo, and thanks. All will be well, eventually.
=== Jasmine: away with message “Running errands”
<kingzog> *crosses fingers*[/quote]

(tl;dr - Jasmine now has the image of my wife and I skinny-dipping at 0300 burned into her brain. Hopefully by now you, gentle reader, are dealing with this burden as well.)

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I am left with four options as to how I might interpret this grand plan on the part of the NSO. (Chron used the word 'we' enough so that I assume he was speaking with some authority. However, I'm leaving some 'room' in case this is a misunderstanding.)

As I see it, it is one of the following:

[b]1. A Genuine Plan to Harm the NPO, With the Approval of the NSO Government[/b]

[b]2. A Genuine Plan to Harm the NPO, Without the Approval of the NSO Government[/b]

[b]3. An Attempt to Set Up Yours Truly, With the Approval of the NSO Government[/b]

[b]4. An Attempt to Set Up Yours Truly, Without the Approval of the NSO Government[/b]


Those are the only four options I can think of. Each carries with it an interesting set of consequences, which I shall leave others to elicidate upon.




There you go.

[b]Real[/b] drama.

Enjoy.

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[quote]02:36 TehChron Dilber has been a member since february
02:36 TehChron head of FA since april
02:37 TehChron every time weve tried to convince one of his subordinates to coup him, hes wound up talking them out of it[/quote]
I love him for things like that. This made me laugh.

Edit: If this is real, it'll be interesting. If it's not, the logs were at least funny.

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A) You said that you weren't going to release these logs, you did. That's low.

B) You should of went along with it!!! It would have been more fun for the rest of us <_< I don't think Chron was looking to harm Pacifica specifically, but rather to use Pacifica as a tool to reshape the treaty web. Should of done it in my opinion. Thank you NSO for being the only alliance to actually attempt to change the game for the better.

<3 Chron

With you dropping these logs, it kinda puts a damper on any of the fun we could of had with the whole thing. Also you scarred me for life with the skinny-dipping image. That's 2 strikes Mr. Zog :((

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[quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1280097366' post='2388795']If this is real, it'll be interesting. If it's not, the logs were at least funny.
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You wound me, Good Sir.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/gfgraham/Cybernations/convo1.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/gfgraham/Cybernations/convo2.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/gfgraham/Cybernations/convo3.png

Please examine the pixels carefully.


EDIT: I've no idea why there's all that white space or why the third image is so blurry. My 'mad MS Paint' skills, I suppose.

EDIT2: Thank you WickedJ for pointing out that there were some bad words in those pics. Hence the reason they are now links. Everyone else....please be advised that there is PG13 content.

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[quote]My Drama is Better [/quote]

Agreed, this will end well.

However NSO spin masters, take note, please don't follow any main stream media spin idea's get very [b]creative[/b] the sheep are awake these days. :P

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[color="#0000FF"]Hello, Rebel Virginia, NSO Master of Lies. As you might expect I am here to deny everything, because quite frankly, to acknowledge anything here as true would be dishonest, and a lie.

First off, this is not the NSO's plan, nor has it ever been. As Chron acknowledged in the logs, the NSO is not in a terrific position. We're not overly friendly with either SF or CnG at this point, although it is my hope that relations will be mended during my tenure as Master of Lies, but more to the point, the NPO is one of the NSO's most important allies, and one of the few alliances out there that gave us a chance following some of the events of last year. Furthermore, our truest friends do lay in the NPO's old sphere, and the NSO has the utmost respect for the NPO, its history, resolve, and determination.

Secondly, it is true that the NSO has had an interest of late in shedding the image of 'ex-Heg.' However, one thing I would like to make clear is that we will never abandon our friends in order to achieve that goal. But I get ahead of myself.

All that is happening here is Chron acting on his own, and under some misconceptions about our goals. The NSO has no and never has had any plans to do harm to the NPO. It is as simple as that.[/color]

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[quote name='Kevanovia' timestamp='1280098276' post='2388820']
It would be like trying to merge with someone you don't know, wouldn't it? ^_^
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HA! Good show

Also Zog, stop by for some Commonwealth beer and bacon sometime please

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[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1280098048' post='2388817']
omg, stop obsessing about the NPO so much guys.

Gosh.
[/quote]

Did you not hear me Baghdad Bob, I want see something original, who are you, ODN's version of Joe Lieberman?

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[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1280098287' post='2388821']
[color="#0000FF"]Hello, Rebel Virginia, NSO Master of Lies. As you might expect I am here to deny everything, because quite frankly, to acknowledge anything here as true would be dishonest, and a lie.

First off, this is not the NSO's plan, nor has it ever been. As Chron acknowledged in the logs, the NSO is not in a terrific position. We're not overly friendly with either SF or CnG at this point, although it is my hope that relations will be mended during my tenure as Master of Lies, but more to the point, the NPO is one of the NSO's most important allies, and one of the few alliances out there that gave us a chance following some of the events of last year. Furthermore, our truest friends do lay in the NPO's old sphere, and the NSO has the utmost respect for the NPO, its history, resolve, and determination.

Secondly, it is true that the NSO has had an interest of late in shedding the image of 'ex-Heg.' However, one thing I would like to make clear is that we will never abandon our friends in order to achieve that goal. But I get ahead of myself.

All that is happening here is Chron acting on his own, and under some misconceptions about our goals. The NSO has no and never has had any plans to do harm to the NPO. It is as simple as that.[/color]
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Wow, that actually works really well as a general purpose response. Most people botch those, especially on short notice.

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